Turning around in someone else's driveway
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xRIEx said:
or in other words, "What harm is it doing (apart from the harm it's doing)?"I'm going to have a go at this game:
"What's wrong with cancer (apart from the terrible pain and death)?"
No,I do not mind in the least about the occasional harmless motorist turning. No damage,no pain.
The end of our drive's used as a passing bay frequently, but the last (actually, only) time I saw a car turning round in it, it was a rather gorgeous 1930s Aston Martin Ulster. I wandered over and had a quick chat with the occupants, complimented them on the car, then pointed out the had been going the right way before, guessing by their Bugatti overalls and the three Bugattis that had already gone past...
Drawweight said:
If there had never been damage then there's surely no problem with it.
However as the Op has had damage twice
Pretty much this. However as the Op has had damage twice
I wouldn't be bothered at people using my drive to make a 3 point turn easier and safer. Doesn't bother me in the slightest..... Right up to when my property gets damaged. My allowing turns on my property is a privilege, not a right. Joe public lose that priviledge the moment damage is done.
Of course, if the perpetrator of said damage knocked on my door to apologise and make good, then I'd probably still have faith in my fellow man. Therefore continuing to allow the trespass with a smile, knowing I'm making someones life a little easier at no cost to myself.
As always, a small number of ignorant a55holes capable of ruining it for everyone else.
Edited by divetheworld on Sunday 29th March 10:29
RDMcG said:
xRIEx said:
or in other words, "What harm is it doing (apart from the harm it's doing)?"I'm going to have a go at this game:
"What's wrong with cancer (apart from the terrible pain and death)?"
No,I do not mind in the least about the occasional harmless motorist turning. No damage,no pain.
That was the only parrot large enough to suit your comment. Plus, if you hitch a ride it might get you to the point you missed quicker.
A home owners property boundary starts, and ends at the back edge of the footpath (if there is one) A pavement crossover does not belong to the property, it is part of the public highway system. Apart from ensuring it is not obstructed for safe access, and egress, a property owner holds no rights over it.
If when turning around, a vehicle does not have any part of it oversailing the property boundary, then the property owner does not have a right to stop a vehicle from using the vehicle crossover to provide extra space it provides for the manoeuvre.
If a vehicle does however cross the property boundary during the turn, that would be a
different matter, and might possibly be regarded as trespass.
If when turning around, a vehicle does not have any part of it oversailing the property boundary, then the property owner does not have a right to stop a vehicle from using the vehicle crossover to provide extra space it provides for the manoeuvre.
If a vehicle does however cross the property boundary during the turn, that would be a
different matter, and might possibly be regarded as trespass.
I'd say the use of an open drive to have enough room for a 3-point turn if the street isn't wide enough isn't a big issue, but the damage to cars/walls/other property is completely unacceptable. And I can understand someone who's had that happen a couple of times deciding that, no, they'd rather no-one used their drive as a turning spot at all. You can't really tell if they're one of the careful ones or not until, well, they hit something. And then there's a good chance they'll just bugger off and you're left hanging, particularly if you're not likely to be at home to see them do it and you don't have the useful kind of curtain-twitching neighbours.
It's a very disrespectful thing to do. Ok in 99% of cases they do no damage, but you will eventually find one that reverses into your car as happened to us. These are the kinds of people that drop litter, run red lights, let their dogs foul the pavement........And probably worse ! If they have to turn, maybe a careful eight point turn is ok, but to drive right in.......No.
TooMany2cvs said:
It always makes me chuckle when you see a "NO TURNING" sign on somebody's gate. It's a sure indicator that the person living there is probably staring out from behind the net curtains, just waiting for any excuse to turn purple and risk a coronary. The highlight of their day, probably.
There is a few of these signs on driveways near where I live... and the houses all have THAT look. Makes me chuckle every time.
A couple of them have gone for the chain across the drive complete with sign hanging off it, and one has a rusty looking lift up security pole which looks like it has been backed into about 50 times.
You just know for a fact that the people in the house are the sort that complain about absolutely everything and probably enjoy writing to 'Points of View' on a regular basis.
Haggleburyfinius said:
Sometimes I despair at the insignificant rubbish people get worked up about on this site.
Life really must be too easy if people worry about others turing around on their drives (damage etc aside, of course).
Surely someone as superior and important as yourself shouldn't be spending their extremely valuable time commenting on the insignificant rubbish that people write about on this site? Shouldn't you be out doing significant stuff somewhere?Life really must be too easy if people worry about others turing around on their drives (damage etc aside, of course).
Vron said:
What about people putting rocks painted white etc on the grass verges outside their houses to stop people parking on there or turning? It's not their land is it?
It may well be. My mother's house has a grass verge to the edge of the carriageway which is part of her plot. My house plot ends right at the edge of the carriageway, but you'd be hard pushed to park on it.robinessex said:
I to got fed up with people using my drive to turn around in, so I came with an ingenious solution. I fitted a high speed winch to my drawbridge, triggered by an infra red beam. It's quite funny watching it in action, the surprise as they drive into the moat !!!
Oh, man! I got as far as "fitted a high speed winch to my drawbridge" and I could see a trebuchet as clear as day flinging the marauders clean over the battlements.we have holiday cottages and rent our swimming pool to a swimming teacher for a couple of hours per day - one of her customers ignored the "no parking beyond this point" sign and drove up the drive and reversed into a low wall which he demolished. He totally denied doing it, despite photos I have of his car at a skewed angle a couple of centimetres from the demolished wall - he claims that because we are in the leisure industry, we should accept damage and breakages - well, we do accept minor breakages from our clients, glasses, mugs, plates etc, but not major breakages and certainly not from outside parties such as him - so frustrating - nothing left but to take him to small claims court - why should we be out of pocket to the tune of £300 cost of repair?
alc said:
we have holiday cottages and rent our swimming pool to a swimming teacher for a couple of hours per day - one of her customers ignored the "no parking beyond this point" sign and drove up the drive and reversed into a low wall which he demolished. He totally denied doing it, despite photos I have of his car at a skewed angle a couple of centimetres from the demolished wall - he claims that because we are in the leisure industry, we should accept damage and breakages - well, we do accept minor breakages from our clients, glasses, mugs, plates etc, but not major breakages and certainly not from outside parties such as him - so frustrating - nothing left but to take him to small claims court - why should we be out of pocket to the tune of £300 cost of repair?
No problem, take a golf club to his car its in the leisure industry.
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