RE: Polo GTI gains power - and a clutch pedal

[rallye101]

HeMightBeBanned said:

How does the existing DSG-only Polo GTI drive? I have to say that these sub-Golf segment hot hatches are the modern cars that I find the most interesting at the moment.

I've had to pick up a run-in polo gti up a few months back and we took a golf gti performance pack down to get it, on the motorway at 60mph we tried an inpromptu 3,2,1 test (you get the idea/there's enough of them on you-tube) and the golf could not pull away which surprised the both of us

[aka_kerrly]

T0MMY said:

aka_kerrly said:

Oh perhaps it is you that is getting older and more sensible and you are looking back at the fun times you had in your youth with 200SX.

Edited by aka_kerrly on Friday 19th September 13:56

Nah, I still have a lot of fun in my older cars

The point I was getting at was if you ask me what I remember of my first car (a mk2 Fiesta) i'd say it drove great and was loads of fun. I try hard to overlook the number of times it wouldn't start or how it was wobbly as a blancmange to start with then with Spax suspension practically rock solid. I'd struggle to go back to one as a daily now!!

[rossw46]

rallye101 said:

HeMightBeBanned said:

How does the existing DSG-only Polo GTI drive? I have to say that these sub-Golf segment hot hatches are the modern cars that I find the most interesting at the moment.

I've had to pick up a run-in polo gti up a few months back and we took a golf gti performance pack down to get it, on the motorway at 60mph we tried an inpromptu 3,2,1 test (you get the idea/there's enough of them on you-tube) and the golf could not pull away which surprised the both of us

I was worried someone would say this. I'm due a new company car, currently drive a 61 plate Polo GTI which I love to bits, I disagree with the harsh ride comment, and the crap engine comments ( NOT including comments relating to reliability - mine has been faultless, but may as well have been 2 stroke), it pulls hard from very low down, and handles pretty well, I came out of the 50 mph roadworks on the M25 the other day, going on to the M11 Southbound, and the guy behind me on a bike who admittedly probably wasnt aware that I was going to nail it into the bends, was a good few seconds behind me by the time I got onto the M11.

I had a Mk7 GTI 5 door DSG on test drive Monday and Tuesday, and Ive had a 5 door GTD DSG since yesterday, give it back on tuesday, and I'm in a major dilemma at the moment.

My heart is saying GTI, and my head is saying GTD.

[lord trumpton]

Another crap polo GTi

They have all been crap and no doubt this one will be too.

For me, the best Polo ever was the revvy Polo 16v. I bought one new back in '98 and still miss it.

[daytona365]

It's all going daft these days. Do people realize that this shoebox can outperform, outhandle while being much safer than say a Jensen interceptor ? Anyway cars like these are born for the wide open German road network, not our pathetic little overcrowded roadwork ridden ruts........Incidentally wouldn't this be around the size of their first and best Mk1 Golf ? With tartan trim too ? Well well.

Edited by daytona365 on Saturday 20th September 22:36

[Limpet]

TheBigUnit said:

Bt. I doubt they have sold more than 300 of those Fabias a year for some time, so whatever issues the engine has, I can't see one dealership replacing 100 engines a year. If they were, I'm sure we would have heard about it from a more reliable source than your good mate.

Only saying what I've heard and I trust the guy implicitly in other respects. You call bt. your call. No skin off my nose me old fruit. But the engine's oil consumption and injector issues are very widely documented. Google is your friend here.

Edited by Limpet on Saturday 20th September 23:02

[lamboman100]

Wait for the Polo R.

[hyperspeed2k]

Back to the 1.8T! I loved my tweaked Ibiza 20VT..until it came to any corner, surely this has to be better? The interior is nicer than the ST, as it should be.

[0a]

Kind of what a Golf GTI used to be

[SteBrown91]

hyperspeed2k said:

Back to the 1.8T! I loved my tweaked Ibiza 20VT..until it came to any corner, surely this has to be better? The interior is nicer than the ST, as it should be.

Its a different engine. Its a smaller capacity version of the EA888 2.0 tfsi

[SidewaysSi]

lord trumpton said:

Another crap polo GTi

They have all been crap and no doubt this one will be too.

This entirely for me. It has never really been a great car but we will see what VW have actually done with it. Always in the shadow of the Golf IMO. I think the only half decent small hottish hatch that VW made was the Lupo GTI and even that was a poor second in comparison to the 106GTI at the time.

[nickfrog]

I don't think it that far behind the 106, but I take your point. On the other hand it was a bit more refined and versatile. I loved the Lupo, brilliant drive.

[Axionknight]

I wouldn't look beyond the Fiesta ST I am afraid, my girlfriend has one with the Mountune pack and it is brilliant, I steal the keys when ever I can.

[SidewaysSi]

nickfrog said:

I don't think it that far behind the 106, but I take your point. On the other hand it was a bit more refined and versatile. I loved the Lupo, brilliant drive.

Oh I have no doubt it was more practical, better made etc. but the 106 was the undisputed star in the class at the time. VW make stuff that is good to drive but with more of a nod to what the man on the street wants as opposed to the true driving enthusiast. So they trade steering feel and absolute dynamics for looks, perceived build etc.

Same with the current Golf R. Great car as an all rounder but in absolute driving terms the Megane has it. For more people more of the time the VW is the more compelling ownership proposition but personally I don't yearn to own a VW, new or old as there has always been something more interesting/exciting to drive.

[Emeye]

So are they going to be doing a 5dr version? - I have been waiting for someone to release a decent manual 5dr Hot hatch in this class, as this is potentially the perfect car to suit my lifestyle.

I have previously preferred my hot hatches from the class above - 2 x Mk5 Golf Gtis, Seat Leon Cupra etc - but recently the Golf Class cars have been getting bigger and much more expensive.

The Fiesta ST is 3dr only and looks horrible, inside and outside.

The Clio is auto.

The 208 is 3dr only.

It is about time VW capitalised on their WRC success, even if they are in the process of ruining the top rung of rallying - I always thought WRC should be running cars from the Golf class as they are more relevant to what you can buy.

[s m]

Emeye said:

So are they going to be doing a 5dr version? - I have been waiting for someone to release a decent manual 5dr Hot hatch in this class, as this is potentially the perfect car to suit

.

Will they do the A1 Sportback with this combo at the facelift perhaps?

[iloveboost]

ChesterUK said:

Awaiting the S1's cousin, the Polo R. But this looks quick enough to be honest, albeit a very 'electronic' drive if the Golf is anything to go by.

Inevitable isn't it?! Same car launched slightly later with a slightly lower standard specification, a slightly lower price and slightly worse quality interior.
The reviews write themselves.

[iloveboost]

Sampaio said:

Ignoring the whole Polo story here but: 240bhp on a Fiesta? What year is it?

That's probably 'claimed' power on the standard turbo on very high octane racing fuel, or on a 'optimistic' dyno.
I'm sure it will have exactly the same performance as the Mountune kit, or similar kits, in practice,

[chrisemersons]

nickfrog said:

I agree. I know the anti-compare new-to-used brigade gets very upset with this and start quoting extreme examples to make their point, whatever it is.

But I always compare new to used like 1-2 year old cars that will have similar overall ownership/running cost. And that's a very good example. I expect 18 month old low mileage 3-dr to dip under the £20k mark privately by xmas.

So it's a "segment" above ? I don't give a shyte, I am not in marketing, I just drive the thing.

Its not really a case of being 'upset', i just dont get it.

I pay more for a new car because its new and i can afford it, you know nobody has been out ranting it from cold every morning, every part of it is new, the tyres arent half worn, you know that nobody has been picking their nose and wiping it on the trim, nobody has spent hours in the drivers seat farting in it - nobody else has been shagging in it, you know its not been crashed and abused, its got a warranty not the remains of a warranty like a 2 year old car, i like new in the same way as i like new shoes, not someone elses hand me downs - thats why some of us prefer new and are happy to pay the premium to do so..

[chrisemersons]

rossw46 said:

I had a Mk7 GTI 5 door DSG on test drive Monday and Tuesday, and Ive had a 5 door GTD DSG since yesterday, give it back on tuesday, and I'm in a major dilemma at the moment.

My heart is saying GTI, and my head is saying GTD.

I had the same dilemma but chose the GTI and dont regret it, i love it. Part of me likes the fact its not a diesel and therefore not obviously a company car and somehow feels more premium.
Its thirstier than a GTD obviously but i break even on my business mileage at 16p mile, as long as it doesn't cost me money to use it for work then i'm happy.