Norway Does NOT Like Powerful/Fast Cars!

Norway Does NOT Like Powerful/Fast Cars!

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DonkeyApple

55,312 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
That's what happens in a place where the main wealth creation sectors are flogging fish and oil run by car hating socialists.
Hmm. As opposed to one selling services and run by car hating socialists. wink

The fact is that Norway restricts its people from spending in the exact areas where people are prone to unfettered, debt fuelled spending. And guess what, they don't have a country full of heavily indebted spend monkeys totally reliant on the State to feed and house them.

Sway

26,278 posts

194 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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hehe

The Finns were great, so friendly.

Even the slightly mental reindeer farmer who regaled us with stories of UFOs whilst drinking copious amounts of vodka!

We spent two weeks in aforementioned ski resort (cheap price as we were the snaggers for the newly finished hotel) and two weeks sleeping in a school sports hall in Oulu itself. Going out every night to see hundreds of people just out enjoying the weather, we seemed to become the centre of attention...

Them were the days, before life became complicated!

DonkeyApple

55,312 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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thekingisdead said:
There was an article on the Beeb website last week that norways sovereign wealth fund is big enough to make every person a millionaire. Rich country indeed.

Personally I can see quite an attraction to a country where income inequality is low and there is a strong focus on quality of life. (I'm aware that's a very un PH thing to say)
Indeed. Imagine Britain with a large sovereign wealth fund from the oil gift, imagine we had not deregulated personal debt to fuel an artificial spending boom.

Look at Britain today, negative net wealth and a cost of living that requires enormous excess debt to finance. And having to spend future income more and more in order to keep the lights on.

UKs fake wealth or Norway's real wealth? Hmmm

No personal debt, strong savings and low cost of living or huge personal debt, no savings and massively inflated cost of housing? Again, only a total Tard would argue that living in the actual poverty of the British is remotely savoury.

ess

791 posts

178 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
XJ Flyer said:
That's what happens in a place where the main wealth creation sectors are flogging fish and oil run by car hating socialists.
Hmm. As opposed to one selling services and run by car hating socialists. wink

The fact is that Norway restricts its people from spending in the exact areas where people are prone to unfettered, debt fuelled spending. And guess what, they don't have a country full of heavily indebted spend monkeys totally reliant on the State to feed and house them.
Not strictly true.
Whilst the country's Sovereign Wealth Fund is substantial, Norwegian household debt is one of the highest in the world.
Also, I seem to recall reading something like 12% of the population are on some form of benefits.
To 'Nave' as it's called in Norsk. Playing the benefits system NAV.


OT -

http://www.finn.no/finn/car/used/object?finnkode=5...

DonkeyApple

55,312 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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ess said:
DonkeyApple said:
XJ Flyer said:
That's what happens in a place where the main wealth creation sectors are flogging fish and oil run by car hating socialists.
Hmm. As opposed to one selling services and run by car hating socialists. wink

The fact is that Norway restricts its people from spending in the exact areas where people are prone to unfettered, debt fuelled spending. And guess what, they don't have a country full of heavily indebted spend monkeys totally reliant on the State to feed and house them.
Not strictly true.
Whilst the country's Sovereign Wealth Fund is substantial, Norwegian household debt is one of the highest in the world.
Also, I seem to recall reading something like 12% of the population are on some form of benefits.
To 'Nave' as it's called in Norsk. Playing the benefits system NAV.


OT -

http://www.finn.no/finn/car/used/object?finnkode=5...
It's a figure approaching 200% of annual income. However, it is a gross figure that is always quoted for household debt. What is pertinent is that due to the very high levels of savings, property equity and pension assets the net figure is negative.

It is also relevant to note that this gross level has spiralled post the 2008 credit crunch and the slashing of the cost of debt across the globe.

In contrast, the UK household level was catastrophically high prior to the Credit Crunch as most Britons have been living beyond their means for approaching 2 decades. At the same time few Britons have any discernible levels of savings, pension assets or property equity, meaning that the net debt is an enormous figure.

And if we think that 12% of a population on some kind of benefit is high, then in the UK it's over 50%, well over. It all depends on what 'some form of benefit' is. But there are few households in the UK which are not receiving some from of state benefit.

otolith

56,147 posts

204 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
And if we think that 12% of a population on some kind of benefit is high, then in the UK it's over 50%, well over. It all depends on what 'some form of benefit' is. But there are few households in the UK which are not receiving some from of state benefit.
That is to some extent the result of previous administrations wanting to muddy the waters in regards to who is and isn't dependent on the state.

But, the OP doesn't want this political/social discussion on his General Gassing thread, I started one in NPE for it.

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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not sure if anyone has mentioned this but couldn't you import a car with no engine ? what happens with the sliding scale BHP thing then ?

DonkeyApple

55,312 posts

169 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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otolith said:
DonkeyApple said:
And if we think that 12% of a population on some kind of benefit is high, then in the UK it's over 50%, well over. It all depends on what 'some form of benefit' is. But there are few households in the UK which are not receiving some from of state benefit.
That is to some extent the result of previous administrations wanting to muddy the waters in regards to who is and isn't dependent on the state.

But, the OP doesn't want this political/social discussion on his General Gassing thread, I started one in NPE for it.
OK. I shall let it lie and allow the mentally unstable and angry folk of NPE argue over it. Hail Farage!

ess

791 posts

178 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
otolith said:
DonkeyApple said:
And if we think that 12% of a population on some kind of benefit is high, then in the UK it's over 50%, well over. It all depends on what 'some form of benefit' is. But there are few households in the UK which are not receiving some from of state benefit.
That is to some extent the result of previous administrations wanting to muddy the waters in regards to who is and isn't dependent on the state.

But, the OP doesn't want this political/social discussion on his General Gassing thread, I started one in NPE for it.
OK. I shall let it lie and allow the mentally unstable and angry folk of NPE argue over it. Hail Farage!
Sorry, I should have said 12% of the population on benefits AND out of the workforce.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

182 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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MitchT said:
Are wages similarly spectacular then or do people just live in Norway because they have a desire to be impoverished?
They are hardly impoverished

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Do what a lot of Norwegians do.

Buy a base model small engine car, then swap the running gear from a fast model in the range.

BMW 316-M3
Merc E200-E55 etc

supersingle

3,205 posts

219 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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sim16v said:
Do what a lot of Norwegians do.

Buy a base model small engine car, then swap the running gear from a fast model in the range.

BMW 316-M3
Merc E200-E55 etc
I'm guessing the punishment for doing this are somewhat cruel and unusual.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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supersingle said:
sim16v said:
Do what a lot of Norwegians do.

Buy a base model small engine car, then swap the running gear from a fast model in the range.

BMW 316-M3
Merc E200-E55 etc
I'm guessing the punishment for doing this are somewhat cruel and unusual.


The thing you do is, you have two identical looking cars, say one 320 and one M3, swap the VIN over so both have the same number, you only ever MOT the original car, you see where this is heading smile


XJ Flyer

5,526 posts

130 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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Finlandia said:


The thing you do is, you have two identical looking cars, say one 320 and one M3, swap the VIN over so both have the same number, you only ever MOT the original car, you see where this is heading smile
I get it.You buy an M3 and a 320 which then adds the admittedly lower purchase tax on the 320 to the massive purchase tax on the M3 and then either swap the VIN's or the engines and drivelines.Then get stopped and asked why the M3 has a 320 VIN or why the 320 has been changed into an M3 and then get done for a tax scam for the privilege.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

231 months

Monday 22nd September 2014
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XJ Flyer said:
I get it.
You don't.

sim16v

2,177 posts

201 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Have a look on the Norwegian equivalent of the Autotrader website.

It's amazing how many E34 518s and 520s have full M5 3.6 and 3.8 running gear, bodykits and wheels.....

FredClogs

14,041 posts

161 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Famous Norwegian joke

How do you sink a Swedish submarine?

Knock on the door and wait for them to answer.

Yes cars are dear in Norway and Denmark. But you can drive a UK registered car for 12 months (I did). Then maybe a French registered one, then and Irish one... You get the idea...

jcelee

1,039 posts

244 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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My brother's Norwegian father in law had a property and some business interests in the UK and ran a British registered Jag XJ8 over there for many years. He just had to bring it back once a year for MOTs. Eventually having sold his UK interests this became too much hassle and he gave me the unenviable task of trying to sell it with Norwegian service history / owner details, winter tyres etc!