Being overtaken...
Discussion
MC Bodge said:
Captainawesome said:
I've actually had the police ring me after a complaint was made about me overtaking on a 'blind' corner. Yes it is blind if you look six inches in front of your bonnet. If, however you have your eyes open and can look up the hill you can see for a good three quarters of a mile with perfect visibility.
Asked Mr Policeman if he was local and he was indeed, I then told him exactly where the overtake had been made, explained the situation and proposed the fact that maybe it wasn't me that was the incompetent driver. He agreed.
You sound almost too awesome.Asked Mr Policeman if he was local and he was indeed, I then told him exactly where the overtake had been made, explained the situation and proposed the fact that maybe it wasn't me that was the incompetent driver. He agreed.
BIB suggested that I might scare her into crashing if I over took her so aggressively on a bend. I pointed out, with respect, that I could see him parked up at the end of the bend, and the whole road in between, and if he was worried about others crashing, he maybe should stop them and perhaps do a sight check. I got a producer, and a comment about being careful in such an old car.
CapnSlow said:
crispyshark said:
Yep, this, in spades. Same on the continent, no one seems to care which leads me to believe it is very much an English thing to get annoyed when you are overtaken.
We have just returned from the highlands and one particular drive just after Glencoe to Applecross stands out for me. Met a few mud pluggers in front of me and as soon as the single track widened they moved over with a wave. We also came across a white sprinter van (insert joke) who although was making good pace, kindly moved over and waved us through where he could and then tried to keep up behind the slowest car in our group. Was all rather civil and refreshing.
Belgium? And Belgians everywhere. When my wife and I are driving in Europe we have an ongoing laugh at the ineptitude and small penis syndrome of Belgian drivers. We can spot them a mile off (sorry 1.6km off) even before we see the dreaded B surrounded by stars and a blue background.We have just returned from the highlands and one particular drive just after Glencoe to Applecross stands out for me. Met a few mud pluggers in front of me and as soon as the single track widened they moved over with a wave. We also came across a white sprinter van (insert joke) who although was making good pace, kindly moved over and waved us through where he could and then tried to keep up behind the slowest car in our group. Was all rather civil and refreshing.
I do particularly like Italy though where even the Ambulances on blues and twos move out of the way if you are faster....
I've seen some horrific overtaking, and some dangerous responses to being overtaken on the A57 (Snake Pass). Almost every time I use it I see overtaking right before blind corners, and people accelerating when being overtaken so that the overtaking vehicle is still on the wrong side of the road at a corner.
I don't understand the thought process behind either of these actions. I've already seen the aftermath of one crash where somebody died on that road, the way some people drive on it I expect it won't belong until I see another.
I don't understand the thought process behind either of these actions. I've already seen the aftermath of one crash where somebody died on that road, the way some people drive on it I expect it won't belong until I see another.
I don't understand what some supposed professional drivers use to keep their ears apart. The Snake was a regular run for me when using Manchester airport and some bright spark had dictated that we had to use taxis and leave company cars for use in the car pool.
Blind bend overtakes everyday occurrence until they got the Scarborough warning.
Blind bend overtakes everyday occurrence until they got the Scarborough warning.
We had this driving home on Sunday evening. Drove along a wide bypass road (the ones with one lane in each direction but the lanes are almost wide enough for 2 cars) behind a new Honda Jazz at 40mph because there was no safe opportunity to overtake due to oncoming traffic. Built up quite a queue behind us.
At the end of the bypass we both went straight on at the roundabout onto a country lane going uphil. We could clearly see for some distance so my OH indicated, pulled out and accelerated up the hill. When safely past, he indicated and gently pulled in. A nice safe manoeuvre as I would have commented otherwise (as a good wifey, I like to share when I think his driving is below par
, to be fair this is rare).
The jazz driver thought otherwise and went bats
t mental, flashing his lights and chasing after us.
My OH slammed on the brakes and was going to discuss the finer points of his driving with the Jazz driver but I managed to persuade him to let it go and continue our journey. No point engaging with the stupid, it could not solve antything and could go very wrong.....
At the end of the bypass we both went straight on at the roundabout onto a country lane going uphil. We could clearly see for some distance so my OH indicated, pulled out and accelerated up the hill. When safely past, he indicated and gently pulled in. A nice safe manoeuvre as I would have commented otherwise (as a good wifey, I like to share when I think his driving is below par
, to be fair this is rare).The jazz driver thought otherwise and went bats
t mental, flashing his lights and chasing after us. My OH slammed on the brakes and was going to discuss the finer points of his driving with the Jazz driver but I managed to persuade him to let it go and continue our journey. No point engaging with the stupid, it could not solve antything and could go very wrong.....
Rawwr said:
Wocka said:
It's quite common, a perfectly safe and legal overtake can often be met with outrage.
Unless you're on a motorbike, for some reason. It's weird, I've never had angry flashing or people trying to accelerate when I've overtaken them on the bike.Have a read of these comments in my local paper stemming from an article about a traffic accident in roadworks. People seem to think they're clever blocking the outside lane to stop people "queue jumping" approaching where the outside lane is closed off. There are also plenty of sweeping statements about drivers of German cars needing to be "taught a lesson." One guy even says he'll run people into the cones (and therefore the workmen) if they try to pass him approaching the coned off area. They all say it's other people who are making the roads dangerous and causing the accidents.
There is a considerable number of people on the road acting as self appointed traffic police who only wake up when they see someone they want to provoke into an aggressive reaction or a dangerous near accident just to confirm their stereotypes in their own minds.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11491962...
There is a considerable number of people on the road acting as self appointed traffic police who only wake up when they see someone they want to provoke into an aggressive reaction or a dangerous near accident just to confirm their stereotypes in their own minds.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11491962...
Blakewater said:
Mix those who want to willfully hold everything up with those who really are psychos trying to shove through at all costs and that's what creates the accidents. Then people say that lower speed limits and traffic calming measures and draconian enforcement will make it all better.
Good grief. Couldn't agree more. At the risk of being accused of using tinted specs, I have been driving long enough to know it did not used to be like that.... and you could approach a Cop Patrol car poodling along at 70 and he would move over and even wave you past.
Blakewater said:
Have a read of these comments in my local paper stemming from an article about a traffic accident in roadworks. People seem to think they're clever blocking the outside lane to stop people "queue jumping" approaching where the outside lane is closed off. There are also plenty of sweeping statements about drivers of German cars needing to be "taught a lesson." One guy even says he'll run people into the cones (and therefore the workmen) if they try to pass him approaching the coned off area. They all say it's other people who are making the roads dangerous and causing the accidents.
There is a considerable number of people on the road acting as self appointed traffic police who only wake up when they see someone they want to provoke into an aggressive reaction or a dangerous near accident just to confirm their stereotypes in their own minds.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11491962...
Golly, there are some on there with tiny willies, lol. There is a considerable number of people on the road acting as self appointed traffic police who only wake up when they see someone they want to provoke into an aggressive reaction or a dangerous near accident just to confirm their stereotypes in their own minds.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/11491962...
MGJohn said:
Good grief. Couldn't agree more. At the risk of being accused of using tinted specs, I have been driving long enough to know it did not used to be like that.
... and you could approach a Cop Patrol car poodling along at 70 and he would move over and even wave you past.
In the last few weeks, I have:... and you could approach a Cop Patrol car poodling along at 70 and he would move over and even wave you past.
1. sounded my horn at a marked police car who was about to cut me up on a roundabout. He apologised and waved me on;
2. lined up next to a marked police car at a traffic light and moved off from the line more quickly; and
3. approached from behind a marked traffic car travelling on the motorway at just under 70 mph, indicated to overtake and driven past at just over 70 mph.
On not one of these occasions did I have any issues from the police.
MGJohn said:
Blakewater said:
Mix those who want to willfully hold everything up with those who really are psychos trying to shove through at all costs and that's what creates the accidents. Then people say that lower speed limits and traffic calming measures and draconian enforcement will make it all better.
Good grief. Couldn't agree more. At the risk of being accused of using tinted specs, I have been driving long enough to know it did not used to be like that.What has changed is that the volume of traffic has increased, there are more traffic lights and very many of the driving population are in the older age groups.
Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 26th September 13:25
Ive been living in surrey a year and a half now so ive adapted to the driving style down here compared to up north in Yorkshire - quick and inconsiderate vs slow and about to die.
When I go back oop north to visit family 4-5 times a year my last 20 mins of the journey are down some back roads I grew up driving on, this is usually about 11pm when I get to this part and I want to press on after a 4 hour motorway journey. I am always astounded at the slow pace people drive up there now. I also get stuck behind a car in the same fking place (right where these back roads begin) EVERY time I go there. Its NSL 60mph and they are always doing 30mph. True Story! So I overtake - loads of room, plenty of gap and loads of view, let the diesel torque do all the work and get round quickly. Not dangerous atall. And I get flashed EVERY TIME. Down south I dont often overtake - theres little point because of traffic volume but on the rare occasion I do Im not met with any anger or lights.
I hate it when people speed up. Whats the fking point????
When I go back oop north to visit family 4-5 times a year my last 20 mins of the journey are down some back roads I grew up driving on, this is usually about 11pm when I get to this part and I want to press on after a 4 hour motorway journey. I am always astounded at the slow pace people drive up there now. I also get stuck behind a car in the same f
king place (right where these back roads begin) EVERY time I go there. Its NSL 60mph and they are always doing 30mph. True Story! So I overtake - loads of room, plenty of gap and loads of view, let the diesel torque do all the work and get round quickly. Not dangerous atall. And I get flashed EVERY TIME. Down south I dont often overtake - theres little point because of traffic volume but on the rare occasion I do Im not met with any anger or lights.I hate it when people speed up. Whats the f
king point????Like the people commenting on the newspaper item, they're policing the roads, imposing their idea of what's safe and teaching you a lesson. They object to you driving faster than what they think is appropriate and not confirming to the normality of driving along in a line in a humdrum car.
Overtake me if you wish.Thats fine.Gripes I have though are;-
1. when the overtaker does the move almost with an elbowing in arrogance about it....or knocking shoulders like some of the kids at school used to do. you know the type....theyve the speed to get level then they lower their speed to 0.0006mph faster than you whilst pulling back in. Erm....thought you was in a hurry but now youve got past youve decided youre not in a hurry?
2. as above but worse. they pull in the same nonchalent fashion but in one swifto smooth move to take the next exit that you are already on.
Its like these retards would sooner just wave a flag out of their vehicle saying "Fu** you...and i dont really want to drive down this exit anyway".
3. drivers who want to let you and the rest of society know that they want to get past you (usually in a 30) by firstly hanging onto your back bumper, but filling your door mirror up with half their car staring into it, presumably to step up the "yeah? you want some?" intent. its all quite laughable really. and then when a seemingly opportune time comes for them to overtake....they back off and drop back about 50 metres.....wait a few seconds.....then you can see them approaching your back bumper again thrashing the car with a cacophony of engine noise. whether or not any gaps exist they do the same more than 3 or 4 times and frankly youd like nothing better than to have them do the flippin over take and get lost...this though does seem to only occur if youre in anything remotely sporty or quick. its never happened to me in overtly underpowered cars so i assume its their way if saying "race ya?". spoons!
4. people who move for an overtake but then just hover in your blind spot. youre thinking what are you doing sat out back there.....do it if youre going to do it then dont fanny about playing silly beggars
1. when the overtaker does the move almost with an elbowing in arrogance about it....or knocking shoulders like some of the kids at school used to do. you know the type....theyve the speed to get level then they lower their speed to 0.0006mph faster than you whilst pulling back in. Erm....thought you was in a hurry but now youve got past youve decided youre not in a hurry?
2. as above but worse. they pull in the same nonchalent fashion but in one swifto smooth move to take the next exit that you are already on.
Its like these retards would sooner just wave a flag out of their vehicle saying "Fu** you...and i dont really want to drive down this exit anyway".
3. drivers who want to let you and the rest of society know that they want to get past you (usually in a 30) by firstly hanging onto your back bumper, but filling your door mirror up with half their car staring into it, presumably to step up the "yeah? you want some?" intent. its all quite laughable really. and then when a seemingly opportune time comes for them to overtake....they back off and drop back about 50 metres.....wait a few seconds.....then you can see them approaching your back bumper again thrashing the car with a cacophony of engine noise. whether or not any gaps exist they do the same more than 3 or 4 times and frankly youd like nothing better than to have them do the flippin over take and get lost...this though does seem to only occur if youre in anything remotely sporty or quick. its never happened to me in overtly underpowered cars so i assume its their way if saying "race ya?". spoons!
4. people who move for an overtake but then just hover in your blind spot. youre thinking what are you doing sat out back there.....do it if youre going to do it then dont fanny about playing silly beggars
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Saturday 27th September 07:41
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Saturday 27th September 07:49
ToothbrushMan said:
Overtake me if you wish.Thats fine.Gripes I have though are;-
1. when the overtaker does the move almost with an elbowing in arrogance about it....or knocking shoulders like some of the kids at school used to do. you know the type....theyve the speed to get level then they lower their speed to 0.0006mph faster than you whilst pulling back in. Erm....thought you was in a hurry but now youve got past youve decided youre not in a hurry?
2. as above but worse. they pull in the same nonchalent fashion but in one swifto smooth move to take the next exit that you are already on.
Its like these retards should just wave a flag out of their vehicle saying "Fu** you".
3. drivers who want to let you and the rest of society that they ant to get past you (usually in a 30) by firstly hanging to your back bumper but filling your door mirror with half their car presumably to step up the "intent" and then when a seemingly opportune time comes to overtake....they back off and drop back about 50 metres.....wait a few seconds.....then you can see them approaching your back bumper again with a cacophony of engine noise. another gap arrives yet they do the same and frankly youd like nothing better than to have them do the flippin over take and get lost...
Number 1 is is usually explained by 2 things - (1) speed limits stop them going much faster and (2) driving behind someone who can't quite bring himself to drive at the limit is irritating. I will quite often overtake someone who is driving at 54 in an NSL, not least because that drops to 45 around bends and up hills. I'll then pull back in and drive at 60, and he'll usually speed up because the overtake woke him up, at which point there is little or no speed difference.1. when the overtaker does the move almost with an elbowing in arrogance about it....or knocking shoulders like some of the kids at school used to do. you know the type....theyve the speed to get level then they lower their speed to 0.0006mph faster than you whilst pulling back in. Erm....thought you was in a hurry but now youve got past youve decided youre not in a hurry?
2. as above but worse. they pull in the same nonchalent fashion but in one swifto smooth move to take the next exit that you are already on.
Its like these retards should just wave a flag out of their vehicle saying "Fu** you".
3. drivers who want to let you and the rest of society that they ant to get past you (usually in a 30) by firstly hanging to your back bumper but filling your door mirror with half their car presumably to step up the "intent" and then when a seemingly opportune time comes to overtake....they back off and drop back about 50 metres.....wait a few seconds.....then you can see them approaching your back bumper again with a cacophony of engine noise. another gap arrives yet they do the same and frankly youd like nothing better than to have them do the flippin over take and get lost...
Edited by ToothbrushMan on Saturday 27th September 07:34
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