Son Passed Test - Car Suggestions - Insurance Related

Son Passed Test - Car Suggestions - Insurance Related

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arfur

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3,871 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Afternoon ...

Son passed car driving test today. Well done.

He already has a full unrestricted bike licence and two bikes. He has 3 years NCD on one bike (600 sports 2006) and another policy on another bike (less than a year)

I'm looking around at car options, and I do not see any that take into account his bike experience.

From a few searches I've done, the usual 1.4 and 1.6 Focus/Golf/Clio/Ibiza are all coming in at about 1700 3rd party with 5k a year miles on a car about 1k value.

He has no intention of using the car unless the weather dictates, and only for getting to work .. in fact he has no interest in driving cars at all. It's only for commuting when a bike would be dangerous (no suitable bus route either)

So is the 1700 quid the norm ? Does anyone know of any cars (suitable for 6ft2) that may come in under this price ?

He's nearly 20

Cheers

Arf

Edited by arfur on Tuesday 23 September 12:32

thelawnet

1,539 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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how old?

Snollygoster

1,538 posts

139 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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My first car was back in 2011 now. Couldn't even pick up a £1k car due to the scrappage scheme ruining that adding more pounds.

On 1.2 Corsa, mine was £1,600 Fully Comp, 10k a year. That was the absolute cheapest I could find anywhere - that was with Liverpool Victoria. Amazingly my friends were paying double, if not more (clearly more money than sense).

You should be able to get the bikes insurance carried over somehow; or mirror the NCD or something like that. Have you tried speaking to his bike insurance company in the first instance?

Steve_F

860 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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As it'll only be used in bad weather why not got for a 4x4. You might be surprised at certain vehicles that will be cheaper to insure as they're not popular for youngsters.

Or get one yourself, use it for some of your commutes and have him as a named driver for the few days he needs it. As long as you use it more than him I can't see that being an issue for him being a named driver.

arfur

Original Poster:

3,871 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Bike insurance Co does not do cars ...

If there are companies that take bike roadcraft into account on car insurance that might be a winner... although I'm guessing that does no happen

He's nearly 20

arfur

Original Poster:

3,871 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Steve_F said:
As it'll only be used in bad weather why not got for a 4x4. You might be surprised at certain vehicles that will be cheaper to insure as they're not popular for youngsters.

Or get one yourself, use it for some of your commutes and have him as a named driver for the few days he needs it. As long as you use it more than him I can't see that being an issue for him being a named driver.
Tried a Disco TD on a S plate as a test ... came out over 4k

As a named driver on my Audi it's 7k and on the Fiat 500 (Abarth) it's 3k

400SE Dave

1,296 posts

171 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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No car recommendations as the obvious smallest engine etc idea will probably apply.

What I found with my daughter though is that the newer the car the cheaper it is. A brand new Fiat 500 cost half the price to insure of a 10 year old Corsa for example.

jackh707

2,126 posts

156 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Get a VW lupo, either petrol or diesel, 1.2/1.4 or something similar. £1000, dirt cheap to insure and run.

I, like your son commute on bike and only use car when it's icy/snowy in winter.
It dosnt really matter what car it is, it's just a roof and 4 wheels that's appreciated, I'm 24 years old.

In terms of performance, there is nothing compared to a bike that's remotely insurable so just get the cheapest thing to run possible IMHO smile.

thelawnet

1,539 posts

155 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Just did a quote for an 09 Pixo 1.0 for a hypothetical newly qualified 19 year old, comes back at £782 with Tesco on moneysupermarket.

But I live in a very cheap postcode for insurance, so YMMV.

arfur

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3,871 posts

214 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Lupu 1.4 TDI 1700 frown

Tried a old Vitara as oddball 4x4 choice .. 3k

Postcode is a good one for the South East

vit4

3,507 posts

170 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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One thing to bare in mind is that getting a pov-spec model of the same car can be a lot cheaper than even a mid-range trim level. I can't remember the exact figures, but when I was 17 for me to switch my Astra Merit to an 'Expression' with the same engine would have added many many hundreds, the difference between the gf's Fiesta Ghia and an L was even more silly. What might only cost an extra £50 to somebody paying £250 gets scaled up.

mikeyr

3,118 posts

193 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Surprised no one has come on here yet with the usual "classic car policy/old Volvo/5 litre Jag" suggestions which normally fill these young driver threads.

Which is good because those suggestions always almost turn out to be ancedotal and no one can back up their claims that this will reduce the premiums to thirty shillings per year. biggrin

I can say that when doing some quotes recently for my stepson in a similar position that the old style Ford Ka came out cheapest of the cars I tried. This is down to cheap replacement parts apparently but whether that is useful for a 6'2 lad is another question!

OP - make sure you come back on here and let us know which cars came out cheapest on the price comparison sites.

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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I'll just trot out my usual response to these threads, too. Toyota Yaris 1.0 VVTi. (Winter tyres are cheap for them) It's not a catch-all panacea for inexpensive insurance costs for young people, but it's a good start.

AnimalBob

219 posts

152 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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What about an old Vectra or Mondeo? I picked up a 2.0 Vectra for £1000 and spent the same again on insurance when I was 20... boring car but fairly comfy for the commute to work.

bobfett

144 posts

117 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Older style Fiat Panda. One of the utter base spec 1.1 ("Active Eco" I think) they were churning out for under 5 grand at one point. Should be thousands around. Loads of space for "taller" people.

Would possibly suggest a 4x4 version if absolute unstoppability on roads is important but I don't know what their insurance is like.

Edited by bobfett on Tuesday 23 September 13:28

Matt100HP

250 posts

116 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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A mk3 petrol Panda 4x4 on winter tyres should be pretty much unstoppable in any kind of weather the UK can throw at it and cheap enough to buy (the diesel 4x4s are really expensive). It's also very slow and usually driven by old people, so I can't see the insurance being prohibitively expensive.

speedking31

3,556 posts

136 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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My son got a W reg Freelander at age 19 insured for £1100 pa.

Don't pay in instalments, delete legal help, courtesy car, recovery etc. Increase excess, limit mileage to a practical level.

LeoE

9 posts

194 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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Standard response I know, but MX-5?

My girlfriend is 20 and learning at the moment. We're looking at buying her a car and as bit of a joke (thinking I could borrow it for the weekends) I checked out the insurance costs on a MX-5, for her as a learner and then her having recently passed her test.

It came out at around £650, versus £1k + for the usual "first car" suspects...

gtidreamer

176 posts

115 months

Tuesday 23rd September 2014
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In my experience French cars always seemed to be in much lower insurance groups than comparable euro/jap cars.
A 6n2 model VW polo (00-02) I had was a cheap car at the time and worth a look.

ben5732

763 posts

156 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Peugeot 2.1td, other half passed her test (she's 23) her insurance was only £600 after passing once I was added on as a named driver. Another option is a Volvo s40 1.9d insurance would of been around £750 for that.