Regularly Travelling At 60 In A 30. No Remorse
Discussion
I can't believe that anyone can think that the reason why you're supposed to drive at the speed limit during your test is to show the driver how he should drive or that it's a legal requirement. It simply to test him in a worst case scenario in terms of reaction time and observation.
I reckon the key reason why Mr Angry gets stuck behind slow traffic is because of his inherent aggressivity which may trigger that attitude when faced with moronic behaviour. But Mr Angry is quite clearly too thick to realise.
I reckon the key reason why Mr Angry gets stuck behind slow traffic is because of his inherent aggressivity which may trigger that attitude when faced with moronic behaviour. But Mr Angry is quite clearly too thick to realise.
Some speed limits are far too low.
Many drivers are useless, give it little thought, are terrified of (them and others) overtaking, but tail-gate and haven't a clue how to react to hazards and poor conditions.
The general population are an ignorant, reactionary bunch who support "something must be done" and support the idea of reducing speed limits ...and probably think that Nigel Farage is the second coming of Christ.
Is doing 60mph on a quiet 30mph dual carriageway terrible? Not at all.
Is it an offence? Sadly, yes
This is Pistonheads. Have a good photo:
(okay, so the photo is from Speedhunters)
Many drivers are useless, give it little thought, are terrified of (them and others) overtaking, but tail-gate and haven't a clue how to react to hazards and poor conditions.
The general population are an ignorant, reactionary bunch who support "something must be done" and support the idea of reducing speed limits ...and probably think that Nigel Farage is the second coming of Christ.
Is doing 60mph on a quiet 30mph dual carriageway terrible? Not at all.
Is it an offence? Sadly, yes
This is Pistonheads. Have a good photo:
(okay, so the photo is from Speedhunters)
Edited by MC Bodge on Saturday 11th October 11:02
I have no problem with someone doing 60mph if it is a patently safe dual carriageway (or single carriageway) environment. What I have a problem with is people doing 40, 50, 60, 70mph in villages (some are NSL but some are 40mph) esp when there are pedestrians around. Our village is NSL despite the preeschool!
Assessing the risk and driving with respect to the conditions is key IMO and these stupidly low speedlimits in safe environments make a mockery of this and teach some people that all speedlimits are stupid.
Unfortunately targetting speeders is mainly on the roads where there is a stupidly low speedlimit which people ignore as this is most profitable/ best for meeting targets
Assessing the risk and driving with respect to the conditions is key IMO and these stupidly low speedlimits in safe environments make a mockery of this and teach some people that all speedlimits are stupid.
Unfortunately targetting speeders is mainly on the roads where there is a stupidly low speedlimit which people ignore as this is most profitable/ best for meeting targets
mclwanB said:
I have no problem with someone doing 60mph if it is a patently safe dual carriageway (or single carriageway) environment. What I have a problem with is people doing 40, 50, 60, 70mph in villages (some are NSL but some are 40mph) esp when there are pedestrians around. Our village is NSL despite the preeschool!
And you're probably best off trying to keep it that way 
Assuming since you havent mentioned it the safety record is good/excellent, in those circumstances you could find introducing a lower limit will only make safety worse.
danjama said:
pork911 said:
I'll bite. OP you are a dick. Worse still the w
kish talk of trying best but if not on ball / muscle memory. At the very least be honest. You disagree with the drop in limit and will drive at whatever speed you choose. Good luck.
No he's not a dick.kish talk of trying best but if not on ball / muscle memory. At the very least be honest. You disagree with the drop in limit and will drive at whatever speed you choose. Good luck.We are all seeing this pattern up and down the country of roads that were perfectly safe at their previous limits being reduced for no good reason (to anybody with common sense).
We should just accept this?
By the way, please don’t tailgate me when I obey the limit; while I have no respect for the people setting the limits, they do have the power to take away my driving licence, so I will be sticking to the 30mph limit.
People will drive more slowly than you would like for any number of reasons. They may have a delicate or nervous passenger in the vehicle or a delicate or heavy load. Often a car being driven unusually slowly for what it is turns out to have a spacesaver spare wheel on it. Some people like going for drives on country roads but not for the fun of driving fast round them.
A driver may have recently passed his or her test and be driving within the confines of his or her ability to stay calm and react to situations as all the processes require more active thought than they do with an experienced driver to whom they come subconsciously and naturally. Elderly drivers may be perfectly safe to drive if they slow down in accordance with their poorer reactions, there's no need to take their cars and licences away from them and deny them their freedom to travel because they slow other drivers down a little. Bullying these kinds of drivers and getting angry with them isn't just ignorant, it panics them into making mistakes so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they're not only slow but incompetent when the incompetency is only being brought about by the aggression and bullying. Scare and upset people and cause accidents and you're only giving fodder to those who call for speed limits to be reduced.
Speed limits don't need to be reduced to whatever the slowest people on the road can handle in the worst kind of situation so no one else is allowed to go faster. We all just need to accept that dealing with drivers going more slowly than we want to at any given time on any given road is all part and parcel of driving, as is a nicely planned and carried out overtake. When you have to be somewhere for a certain time, give yourself enough time when you set off to complete your journey and you've no need to get wound up about delays. If you're going for a hoon go at a quite time or, if you get stuck in slow traffic, turn round and do the road the other way. Time doesn't matter in a leisure situation. Better yet, get yourself onto a racetrack. Having to rush someone to hospital is a rare scenario and, as has been said before, an angry attitude is likely to result in you not getting there at all and crashing with your sick child in the car is worse than a minute's delay.
I've no time for the slow is safe, speed kills, 20's Plenty attitude of cutting limits everywhere but I'm also irritated by the kind of aggression and thoughtless driving that encourages this attitude to prevail in the first place.
A driver may have recently passed his or her test and be driving within the confines of his or her ability to stay calm and react to situations as all the processes require more active thought than they do with an experienced driver to whom they come subconsciously and naturally. Elderly drivers may be perfectly safe to drive if they slow down in accordance with their poorer reactions, there's no need to take their cars and licences away from them and deny them their freedom to travel because they slow other drivers down a little. Bullying these kinds of drivers and getting angry with them isn't just ignorant, it panics them into making mistakes so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy that they're not only slow but incompetent when the incompetency is only being brought about by the aggression and bullying. Scare and upset people and cause accidents and you're only giving fodder to those who call for speed limits to be reduced.
Speed limits don't need to be reduced to whatever the slowest people on the road can handle in the worst kind of situation so no one else is allowed to go faster. We all just need to accept that dealing with drivers going more slowly than we want to at any given time on any given road is all part and parcel of driving, as is a nicely planned and carried out overtake. When you have to be somewhere for a certain time, give yourself enough time when you set off to complete your journey and you've no need to get wound up about delays. If you're going for a hoon go at a quite time or, if you get stuck in slow traffic, turn round and do the road the other way. Time doesn't matter in a leisure situation. Better yet, get yourself onto a racetrack. Having to rush someone to hospital is a rare scenario and, as has been said before, an angry attitude is likely to result in you not getting there at all and crashing with your sick child in the car is worse than a minute's delay.
I've no time for the slow is safe, speed kills, 20's Plenty attitude of cutting limits everywhere but I'm also irritated by the kind of aggression and thoughtless driving that encourages this attitude to prevail in the first place.
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