Why bother with a 500bhp V10 if....
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I can see what the OP means, 55 is pretty non-standard for British Motorways, but if you take the argument to extreme a 520d will do 140, so why bother will that if you're only going to do a 130mph?
I have to admit after 3 years of doing the same 30 miles of motorway twice a day I started to drive at 56mph, it usually meant sitting behind a lorry for most of it, without being tailgated, without having to constantly accelerate and brake to maintain 'my place' in lane 3 with all the other agro commuters and you can't argument with the maths - it meant an extra 10 mins or so listening to the radio in peace and meant an extra £100 a month or so in spending money.
Unless you want to go mental at 2am, motorways are like flying really, you wouldn't feel any extra excitement if the pilot 'floored it' and did an extra 60mph, well unless the wings fell off, but you'd notice the extra ticket price.
I have to admit after 3 years of doing the same 30 miles of motorway twice a day I started to drive at 56mph, it usually meant sitting behind a lorry for most of it, without being tailgated, without having to constantly accelerate and brake to maintain 'my place' in lane 3 with all the other agro commuters and you can't argument with the maths - it meant an extra 10 mins or so listening to the radio in peace and meant an extra £100 a month or so in spending money.
Unless you want to go mental at 2am, motorways are like flying really, you wouldn't feel any extra excitement if the pilot 'floored it' and did an extra 60mph, well unless the wings fell off, but you'd notice the extra ticket price.
As someone who owned a V10 M6 for six years from new,my initial reason to buy it was to pick it up at the factory,do a Lot of autobahn driving ( I did 2000km in two days),run it at the Nurburgring, (44 laps and a set of brakes) and then ship it back to Canada.
After that it was a nice,very comfortable weekender that I preferred to the previous 645ci,but I realized that it was a car I drove less than most, and after six years and 18000 miles I sold it.
It marked the end of buying big,fast cruisers for me and I concentrated on a combination of more trackable cars such as the GT3RS,offroaders that I actually used, and practical utility vehicles.
I never really got the most common arguments I see which were "hooning on a country road" or "power when I need it". I suspect that is why I will never own an AM,AMG Benz or the like.
If you ask a car salesman ( and I have),the most common reason is style and status. Not of course a reason from powerfully built directors.
After that it was a nice,very comfortable weekender that I preferred to the previous 645ci,but I realized that it was a car I drove less than most, and after six years and 18000 miles I sold it.
It marked the end of buying big,fast cruisers for me and I concentrated on a combination of more trackable cars such as the GT3RS,offroaders that I actually used, and practical utility vehicles.
I never really got the most common arguments I see which were "hooning on a country road" or "power when I need it". I suspect that is why I will never own an AM,AMG Benz or the like.
If you ask a car salesman ( and I have),the most common reason is style and status. Not of course a reason from powerfully built directors.
E65Ross said:
No comment 
but let's say for 250 miles the traffic was clear and let's say a cruise at 90 would take 1 hour 25 mins less than at 60. That's significant imo. I'll leave it there.
Well the only point I was trying to make is that you can't really just divide the distance by the speed and expect it to give you the time (and thus the time saved with two different speeds). My commute is about 65 miles of 70mph roads and only a couple of miles of (quiet) town but my average speed is always surprisingly low for the whole journey, no matter what speed I do. 90 will be quicker than 60 but not by as much as you might think. Of course I'm choosing between 70 and 80 because 60 is too slow and 90 is too fast to not have to worry about tickets, at which point the time difference is very small. but let's say for 250 miles the traffic was clear and let's say a cruise at 90 would take 1 hour 25 mins less than at 60. That's significant imo. I'll leave it there. Probably he likes driving slow as it doesn't require much thought and he may be tired from the day's work.
My friend has an M5 with the same engine and averages 12 mpg. Yes, 12. I expect this chap can nudge 25-28 mpg at 55 mph, which makes it slightly bearable. Whereas at 80, he will be down to 18 mpg.
My friend has an M5 with the same engine and averages 12 mpg. Yes, 12. I expect this chap can nudge 25-28 mpg at 55 mph, which makes it slightly bearable. Whereas at 80, he will be down to 18 mpg.
RDMcG said:
As someone who owned a V10 M6 for six years from new,my initial reason to buy it was to pick it up at the factory,do a Lot of autobahn driving ( I did 2000km in two days),run it at the Nurburgring, (44 laps and a set of brakes) and then ship it back to Canada.
After that it was a nice,very comfortable weekender that I preferred to the previous 645ci,but I realized that it was a car I drove less than most, and after six years and 18000 miles I sold it.
It marked the end of buying big,fast cruisers for me and I concentrated on a combination of more trackable cars such as the GT3RS,offroaders that I actually used, and practical utility vehicles.
I never really got the most common arguments I see which were "hooning on a country road" or "power when I need it". I suspect that is why I will never own an AM,AMG Benz or the like.
If you ask a car salesman ( and I have),the most common reason is style and status. Not of course a reason from powerfully built directors.
So what? What's wrong with perceived style and status? Without those drivers most of the capitalist world would grind to a halt.After that it was a nice,very comfortable weekender that I preferred to the previous 645ci,but I realized that it was a car I drove less than most, and after six years and 18000 miles I sold it.
It marked the end of buying big,fast cruisers for me and I concentrated on a combination of more trackable cars such as the GT3RS,offroaders that I actually used, and practical utility vehicles.
I never really got the most common arguments I see which were "hooning on a country road" or "power when I need it". I suspect that is why I will never own an AM,AMG Benz or the like.
If you ask a car salesman ( and I have),the most common reason is style and status. Not of course a reason from powerfully built directors.
Mr SFJ said:
I pootle along to work at 45-50 when I could easily overtake everything doing 80, but there's no point. I get to work/home no quicker, just using more fuel along the way
Are you referring to D/C and motorways and a regular car (no vans with speed restrictions etc)?Drive slowly to maximise economy sure, but so slow that trucks will have to overtake you?
If so, my opinion is you're going too slow.
soad said:
WCZ said:
surprised at the amount of people here who stick to the 70mph speed limit tbh
Speed Matters was removed. 
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
HertsBiker said:
I thought I'd accidentally stumbled on a Brake discussion.
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Yea, because motorways are *so* PH, right? Lets all be PH and do 85. Thrilling.Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
HertsBiker said:
I thought I'd accidentally stumbled on a Brake discussion.
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
For what it's worth, I generally sit at 80/85 as I find it mind-numbing at 60 but what an odd post.
[quote=HertsBiker]
I thought I'd accidentally stumbled on a Brake discussion.
...
If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
...
80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
/quote]
+1
The cost of the time saved far outweighs the cost of the fuel
for almost all cars and non-retired folks.
According to the UK Gov, the 70 mph limit is widely ignored
by most motorists.
According to the Association of Chief Police Officers, the 70 mph
limit is too expensive to police, hence all the cameras on the motorways.
I thought I'd accidentally stumbled on a Brake discussion.
...
If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
...
80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
/quote]
+1
The cost of the time saved far outweighs the cost of the fuel
for almost all cars and non-retired folks.
According to the UK Gov, the 70 mph limit is widely ignored
by most motorists.
According to the Association of Chief Police Officers, the 70 mph
limit is too expensive to police, hence all the cameras on the motorways.
HertsBiker said:
I thought I'd accidentally stumbled on a Brake discussion.
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
HertsBiker said:
I thought I'd accidentally stumbled on a Brake discussion.
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
Because as mentioned by other posters, driving on a motorway is about as much fun as having a rash on your ballbag, regardless of whether you're doing 60mph or 160mph. There are much better places to enjoy driving. Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
Rawwr said:
HertsBiker said:
I thought I'd accidentally stumbled on a Brake discussion.
Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
Because as mentioned by other posters, driving on a motorway is about as much fun as having a rash on your ballbag, regardless of whether you're doing 60mph or 160mph. There are much better places to enjoy driving. Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
HertsBiker said:
soad said:
WCZ said:
surprised at the amount of people here who stick to the 70mph speed limit tbh
Speed Matters was removed. Seriously, and with respect, most posters on here have disappointed me greatly.
Ten years seems to have annihilated most of the PH way.
Why drive at LESS than the speed limit unless it is dangerous to do so? If you can't afford the fuel, don't buy the vehicle. Stop being a poser.
Properly angry now at people being so lame. 80 on the motorway is unlikely to get you points, but will get you there quicker.
Unfortunately I have to drive an artic for a living. When I'm on a motorway I tend to spend 95% of the time on cruise control. It's much more relaxing, especially when you see the nose to tail train in lane 3. Stress levels are much lower compared to jostling for position. Fuel economy at this speed in a car is a bonus. The priority is arriving a lot less stressed.
I see both sides of the argument... And have done both. For me, I find driving at under 70 far too boring and can't stand gettngi behind a lorry going under 60 then having to wait for a gap to overtake.. I find I tend to sit between 70 and 80. Yesterday I managed to get 39.9mpg doing these speeds and I doubt it would have been any higher going 65. Certainly not enough difference to make up for the mind dumbing lay dull journey I would have had.
On the other hand, if I travel at around the 90 mark I struggle to get 30mpg, and on the whole, the possible 5 minutes I would save doing it isn't worth the 5 quid it would probably end up costing! Plus, on the way home I finish with a single carriage road, where there is always other cars going irritatingly slow, so I probably only end up saving myself 3 car lengths by gunning it! Again, not worth the extra cost.
On the other hand, if I travel at around the 90 mark I struggle to get 30mpg, and on the whole, the possible 5 minutes I would save doing it isn't worth the 5 quid it would probably end up costing! Plus, on the way home I finish with a single carriage road, where there is always other cars going irritatingly slow, so I probably only end up saving myself 3 car lengths by gunning it! Again, not worth the extra cost.
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