Trafford Centre ****wittery.
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J4CKO said:
Which community ? the super saloon formation hedgerow botherers ?
Quite. I don't think that the race (insinuated?) of the perpetrators should really be a factor in the Policing of motoring.What I cannot understand is doing this kind of thing at the TRAFFORD CENTRE, DURING THE DAY, AT THE WEEKEND! Possibly the busiest place in NW England.... It's not exactly The Midnight Club or out in the desert, is it?
There 'may' be places nearby that could be interesting for a driver or rider, but a bit of discretion and thought about onlookers and passers-by might be required. The Daily Mail will love this story.
Steve vRS said:
I'll bite.
Modern stability controls are better than yours or almost anyone elses on here right foot.
I would like to add to this , most people with a powerful RWD car who have turned off traction/stability control have scared themselves sModern stability controls are better than yours or almost anyone elses on here right foot.
tless and then turned them back on and left them on 
Just admit it you driving gods
Lost soul said:
I would like to add to this , most people with a powerful RWD car who have turned off traction/stability control have scared themselves stless and then turned them back on and left them on
Just admit it you driving gods
Many pokey motorbikes don't have traction control, even nowtless and then turned them back on and left them on Just admit it you driving gods
showing off for a bunch of mouthbreathers worth it
Mouthbreathers... Never heard that one before. Ace...
By the way, the videos basically show Bradford town centre every lunchtime but instead of the social media generation standing around, theres just Bradfords masses trudging around. Driving standard is the same though.
Mouthbreathers... Never heard that one before. Ace...
By the way, the videos basically show Bradford town centre every lunchtime but instead of the social media generation standing around, theres just Bradfords masses trudging around. Driving standard is the same though.
TheHound said:
wolf1 said:
Trade plates have nothing to do with insurance just road tax.
Yes they do, motor trader policy won't show up on database as it usually doesn't cover one car, therefore a trade plate usually also indicates that the car (is most likely) insured under trader policy.Any vehicle being used for any other purpose other than motor trade (tooling about the Trafford Centre is not such a purpose) needs to be taxed (not driven on trade plates) and even if it is covered by a trade policy, the registration needs to be submitted to the MID so it appears on the database and thus ANPR etc.
Source: I am a motor trader and hold a trade policy and trade plates and use vehicles in both of these ways.
Ari said:
Agreed. But mouth breathers watch their heros on Top Gear, or even Chris Harris on here, switching off the ESP and sliding the cars about, often on public roads, and think it's a good idea.
Been plenty of posts on PH from idiots who think their god given driving skilz mean they can 'hoon' on public roads with the ESP off. They 'like to feel the car moving about a bit' apparently.
Utter cretins.
Been plenty of posts on PH from idiots who think their god given driving skilz mean they can 'hoon' on public roads with the ESP off. They 'like to feel the car moving about a bit' apparently.
Utter cretins.
cerb4.5lee said:
No I don't think that for one minute but as with my Z4M as well the traction just holds them both back too much for my liking and I prefer to feel the rear move around a little with me in control and not the electronics and both the M3/Z4M have a limited slip diff too so I have never really understood why you then need electronics as well
There is is... 
Lost soul said:
Its not nanny state its just making powerful RWD cars drivable in poor conditions without too much thought about it , we don't all want to concentrate 100% of the time
turn them off and , well we are here on this thread
Only if you cant drive in the first place though! turn them off and , well we are here on this thread
cerb4.5lee said:
Lost soul said:
Its not nanny state its just making powerful RWD cars drivable in poor conditions without too much thought about it , we don't all want to concentrate 100% of the time
turn them off and , well we are here on this thread
Only if you cant drive in the first place though! turn them off and , well we are here on this thread
Ari said:
Ari said:
Agreed. But mouth breathers watch their heros on Top Gear, or even Chris Harris on here, switching off the ESP and sliding the cars about, often on public roads, and think it's a good idea.
Been plenty of posts on PH from idiots who think their god given driving skilz mean they can 'hoon' on public roads with the ESP off. They 'like to feel the car moving about a bit' apparently.
Utter cretins.
Been plenty of posts on PH from idiots who think their god given driving skilz mean they can 'hoon' on public roads with the ESP off. They 'like to feel the car moving about a bit' apparently.
Utter cretins.
cerb4.5lee said:
No I don't think that for one minute but as with my Z4M as well the traction just holds them both back too much for my liking and I prefer to feel the rear move around a little with me in control and not the electronics and both the M3/Z4M have a limited slip diff too so I have never really understood why you then need electronics as well
There is is... cerb4.5lee said:
Don't worry my fun days are very far behind me now as I currently have a car with an auto gearbox, no LSD and nanny state traction control...the chance of having any fun or getting the rear end moving is virtually impossible, not to mention hardly having enough poke to pull skin off a rice pudding!
Then as long as you were the only person doing it we've nothing to worry about...Lost soul said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The only reason I mostly drove mine with the traction off was because in the dry it just holds the power back too much
No offence but do you really think you are more able to control a car than numerous skilled test drivers and 100's of technicians have honed to what they consider perfection for road use Ari said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Lost soul said:
Its not nanny state its just making powerful RWD cars drivable in poor conditions without too much thought about it , we don't all want to concentrate 100% of the time
turn them off and , well we are here on this thread
Only if you cant drive in the first place though! turn them off and , well we are here on this thread
With my sensible cap on I totally understand the benefits in wet tricky conditions they can help loads but I am not sure they are essential.
Edited by cerb4.5lee on Tuesday 30th September 14:56
StottyEvo said:
Lost soul said:
cerb4.5lee said:
The only reason I mostly drove mine with the traction off was because in the dry it just holds the power back too much
No offence but do you really think you are more able to control a car than numerous skilled test drivers and 100's of technicians have honed to what they consider perfection for road use Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff