Trafford Centre ****wittery.

Trafford Centre ****wittery.

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sparkyhx

4,143 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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MC Bodge said:
sparkyhx said:
Anyway I hired a TR6 for the day,and the owner took me out for a few miles to 'see how I drove it' before handing it over properly. Anyway he complemented me on knowing what I was doing, and said 90% of people didn't have a clue how to drive a RWD car.

p.s. the TR6 was absolutely wonderful, one of the finest driving days ever
I'm thinking of hiring an older car at some point too. I had been thinking of a 911, as I've never driven one, ...I occasionally drive an MGB, but if the TR6 is good it may be worth consideration.

I once did a skid car course in old 3-series'. Not in the entrance to the Trafford Centre on a Sunday lunchtime though....

I was surprised by the apparent lack of understanding of weight transfer of most of the other people, who were generally all over the place.

You can get away with a lot of ham-fisted on/off throttle action in a modern car, so skills can be lost.

motorbikes and some old cars do demand some thought, though, and consideration of loading and unloading the tyres.


Edited by MC Bodge on Wednesday 1st October 14:44
the TR6 was tidy, and as a package really made sense when you got up to NSL speeds. It was a wonderrful involving drive. If you are yorkshire area can recomend the car I took.

daveky

148 posts

141 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Love the "wealthy young men" quote from the MEN. More like parents with the money. Just like the Arabs racing round London. Put them out in the world without daddy's backing and they are nothing.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Good job, looks like the police are prosecuting the drivers.

I thought that was happening on a closed road.

jamoor

14,506 posts

214 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Shmee said:
That's very interesting to read. Association is a powerful thing, as is doing stupid stuff when cameras are on in the first place - it should always be saved for appropriate places; handling circuits and dedicated areas for the purpose.

Part of me feels a bit sorry for the guys who will be receiving notices of prosecution although we don't know exactly who or what for, because people misbehave at many car events throughout the year across the country but just these select few are going to be in trouble purely for their association to an event during which two people very dangerously got it wrong where on a normal day it would have gone totally unnoticed. Yes, it shouldn't have happened and I certainly wouldn't do it myself, but I see it on a weekly basis - although for the YouTube stuff am a little more careful about what gets posted when you know who's watching and what trouble may come!
I don't think you should ever feel sorry for someone getting in trouble for driving dangerously on public roads and getting in trouble.

P1H

418 posts

147 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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vtecyo said:
Juber said:
This made me cringe and bite my nails. Snippet taken from Mr Aleem's Facebook page. Enjoy

I fking hate people who refer to themselves in the third person. Vtec_yo would never do anything like that.
Lol, good work.

golfdsg

228 posts

126 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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daveky said:
Love the "wealthy young men" quote from the MEN. More like parents with the money. Just like the Arabs racing round London. Put them out in the world without daddy's backing and they are nothing.
Whats wrong with having parents with the money? If you had money wouldnt you want your kids to have a better life and back them in life?

The thing is, the stupid rich boys only seem to spend money and the intellectual ones end up making more money with "daddys money"

Chipmunk1

1,314 posts

161 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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And that's what Aleem has done had he not? Took his dad's company and made it a proper brand, well done and good on him I say

golfdsg

228 posts

126 months

Sunday 5th October 2014
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Chipmunk1 said:
And that's what Aleem has done had he not? Took his dad's company and made it a proper brand, well done and good on him I say
Exactly, most people don't see it but what he's done is some very good marketing for his fathers PET brand. If it wasn't for him not many people wouldnt know that company and it would just be a typical car hire business.

So yes he definately deserves the luxuries he has as he has worked for it and taken the company to the next level.

Edited by golfdsg on Sunday 5th October 23:35

Shmee

7,565 posts

212 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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jamoor said:
I don't think you should ever feel sorry for someone getting in trouble for driving dangerously on public roads and getting in trouble.
I agree, but I'd suggest that not everybody writing on here has been perfect at every minute throughout their driving lives.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

224 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Chipmunk1 said:
And that's what Aleem has done had he not? Took his dad's company and made it a proper brand, well done and good on him I say
The equivalent of Katie Price in the high end automotive hire world; but without the tits.

bennyboysvuk

3,491 posts

247 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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cerb4.5lee said:
jamieduff1981 said:
It's you whining that you can't make your BMW do anything other than understeer!

DSC is a very welcome addition to high performance family cars. They are, by definition, multi-role vehicles. Most of the milage they do will not be solo hooning. DSC allows the car to be driven without being dangerous in many conditions. I'd like to thing I had some level of competence having not crashed my Cerbera but for most of my milage I'm the same as everyone else - i.e. not in the mood for hooning. Having DSC means that the car isn't quite the animal it would otherwise be.

It's far too simplistic to try to apply a binary can drive/ can't drive label to driver aids - particularly in fast saloons which are first and foremost family cars.
I have never complained about the understeer in mine I don't find that a problem its just the auto gearbox I hate and I didn't like the restrictive traction control in my M3/Z4M, I hear what you are saying about the benefits of TC in everyday cars though.

When I had my cerbera it quite often tried to throw me off the road in the wet even with very little throttle input and it needed my full focus on my 22 mile commute to work on the odd time I did used it so on a daily driver in tricky conditions it can be a big help.
Hi Jamie, t'was I who used to complain about the understeer in my E91 330i auto. It was utterly awful. In the wet, the car could be made to dance, but in the dry, it's just dull in a way that previous models weren't.

Joining the thread rather late, DSC etc is what it is, but I turn it off quite a lot too. It's fun to throw a slide in every now and again and if you don't switch it off, the DSC jumps in at the same point that you apply opposite lock, which means that any slide is gathered up violently. It's horrendous.

Re the videos. It looked like my father in-law trying to drift. He who once 'turned on the DSC' on his way to work in the snow one year. He said he knew the traction control was on because a light was permanently on on the dash. smile He still didn't notice any loss of control.

I hate these in-town brisk driving things with hundreds of chavs hanging around. It's asking for someone to try something that they wouldn't normally in order to show off.

prg123

1,303 posts

162 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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jamieduff1981 said:
I'm sure you're correct. Modern cars generally show impeccable manners but adhesion is so high that it can seem overwhelming when they do let go. My wife and I have, as I said in a previous post, had various RWD cars continuously over the years increasing in power and performance until our Cerbera which commands absolute respect. Compared to that, the XFR-S is very easy to chuck about but TBH when the DSC allows so much 'fun' with a safety net I just can't think what would possess anyone to switch it off and try something new in front of an audience.

I'm no Winkle Brown but I do like to build up to things gradually - not just go for it. I'd much sooner embarrass myself by not hooning it off a roundabout than embarrass myself by crashing it. These events really aren't my idea of a good time though.
Competely agree with this had some fun in a wet grassy car park at the weekend in my F-Type traction control left on the car still let me slide the car around a bit without it anywhere near spinning.... Stupid perhaps but great fun all the same

Shurv

955 posts

159 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Sooo pleased I didn't buy a C63, M3, or anything else with a big V8 else I'd have to mix with or be associated with this lot of bellends. I get enough abuse with a 911, but at least most 911 drivers congregate at track days.

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Shurv said:
but at least most 911 drivers congregate at track days.
I thought they mostly congregated in Wilmslow?

J4CKO

41,279 posts

199 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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MC Bodge said:
Shurv said:
but at least most 911 drivers congregate at track days.
I thought they mostly congregated in Wilmslow?

Nah, Mclarens, Ferraris, Astons, and 350Z's round here biggrin

MC Bodge

21,551 posts

174 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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J4CKO said:

Nah, Mclarens, Ferraris, Astons, and 350Z's round here biggrin
I think you are confusing your town with Knutsford, other than the 350z, of course.

cerb4.5lee

30,175 posts

179 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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J4CKO said:
MC Bodge said:
Shurv said:
but at least most 911 drivers congregate at track days.
I thought they mostly congregated in Wilmslow?

Nah, Mclarens, Ferraris, Astons, and 350Z's round here biggrin
When I lived in sandbach I used to drive through Wilmslow to get to work and I miss seeing loads of high end motors around that neck of the woods. biggrin

I just don't see anything like that where I am now and I remember seeing two Ferrari FF`s in one day on my way back from work once back then!, its a great area for nice motor spotting for sure. driving

J4CKO

41,279 posts

199 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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MC Bodge said:
J4CKO said:

Nah, Mclarens, Ferraris, Astons, and 350Z's round here biggrin
I think you are confusing your town with Knutsford, other than the 350z, of course.
Well, Wilmslow has the Ferrari, Porsche and Aston Dealerships, plus a couple of high end indies, Knutsford has Bentley, Rolls and McLaren, I split my time between the two but I have to venture to the mean streets of Altrincham for a Nissan dealer.


andymc

7,334 posts

206 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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Chipmunk1 said:
And that's what Aleem has done had he not? Took his dad's company and made it a proper brand, well done and good on him I say
That will be the illegally laundered money as well as assisting 2 murderers, perfect role model

plasticpig

12,932 posts

224 months

Monday 6th October 2014
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J4CKO said:
Well, Wilmslow has the Ferrari, Porsche and Aston Dealerships, plus a couple of high end indies, Knutsford has Bentley, Rolls and McLaren, I split my time between the two but I have to venture to the mean streets of Altrincham for a Nissan dealer.
Porsche and Ferrari are in Handforth; not in Wilmslow.