RE: Ford Mustang GT: Driven

[irocfan]

marting said:

I can see the appeal, but 35k buys a pretty good second hand V8 M3. Can it really compete with an M3?

new vs old - your money, your choice. In 3 years time the Mustang will still be newer for less money - as an aside if power is your thing it can be developed in a HP monster that'll eat an M3 and st out the badge

[eztiger]

marting said:

I can see the appeal, but 35k buys a pretty good second hand V8 M3. Can it really compete with an M3?

Yes.

[marting]

irocfan said:

new vs old - your money, your choice. In 3 years time the Mustang will still be newer for less money - as an aside if power is your thing it can be developed in a HP monster that'll eat an M3 and st out the badge

Nothing to do with a badge - do you not think an M3 would be a nicer place to sit and a more refined drive? I'm not debating that the Mustangs a good looking car and a nice engine for the money.

Its a genuine question - the E92 is praised for its engine and chassis, why does everyone jump on the "you want a badge" bandwagon when its bought up?

[Clivey]

The Mustang will almost certainly be much cheaper to run (service, parts etc...though possibly not tyres. ) and I'd expect a lot more reliable too!

[willisit]

The video shows the price for the Ecoboost to be $33k and "a loaded GT" to be $46k. We know what the dollar translates to (and since I've imported a couple of cars, it's the same with a £ sign), Ford will have to do something pretty spectacular to make the V8 anything other than a £45k car. That said, Chevy did it with the Camaro, but it was a fair bit cheaper against the dollar anyway.

[Kaelic]

Want is great... I am torn between this and an S197 based GT500 (the one posted here last week!!)

[cerb4.5lee]

eztiger said:

marting said:

I can see the appeal, but 35k buys a pretty good second hand V8 M3. Can it really compete with an M3?

Yes.

Agree the Mustang will sound better, have more low down shove and not just look like a 3 series in a fancy dress so the Mustang has already won in my eyes.

[eztiger]

marting said:

Nothing to do with a badge - do you not think an M3 would be a nicer place to sit and a more refined drive? I'm not debating that the Mustangs a good looking car and a nice engine for the money.

Its a genuine question - the E92 is praised for its engine and chassis, why does everyone jump on the "you want a badge" bandwagon when its bought up?

They're different types of cars. The M3 you have to rev the nuts off to get it going. I would hope the GT is more muscle car and not the case.

It's cheaper to buy and probably cheaper to run in terms of parts and servicing.

The interior quality doesn't look to be shamed by an M3 (which really isn't that great) in any way. Handling - time will tell but for most people it really doesn't matter. The M3 may will win but only at 8/10ths and beyond - which most people won't drive anywhere near to in either car.

So no, I don't think an M3 would be a nicer place to sit nor be a more refined drive. I hope the GT *isn't* overly refined and maintains it's muscle car heritage in the regard.

The badge thing pops up because you've picked the M3 as the be all and end all of cars in this price bracket. Why have you done that? The more obvious competitor in the german luxobarge, slightly used bracket would be the C63. More of a muscle car than the M3. But the same caveats apply.

It's just a different type of car. They may both have V8's but that's about it.

For what it's worth I'm in the market for a V8 coupe or saloon style car next year in this price bracket. The Mustang is firmly on the list. However I'm wary of how vauxhall handled the Monaro and VXR8 ove rhere so I await to see what the pricing is on the Mustang and how Ford handles sales and the aftermarket here. If it gets the pricing right and deploys the full weight of the official US tuning scene over here - it will be something no other car on the market can match IMO. Badge or not

Edited by eztiger on Tuesday 30th September 16:16

[irocfan]

eztiger said:

....and deploys the full weight of the official US tuning scene over here - it will be something no other car on the market can match IMO....

problem is that the insurance thieves... sorry companies will rip you a new ahole for mods

[eztiger]

irocfan said:

problem is that the insurance thieves... sorry companies will rip you a new ahole for mods

Maybe..but no different than any other car. And at least these mods would be manufacturer approved and, in some cases, maintain your warranty.

And that's before entertaining the possibility of being able to walk into a Ford dealer and come out with a roush mustang...yummy.

[WCZ]

430bhp v8 manual mustang gt in gunmetal grey for £35k is an absolute fking bargain, beautiful car imo

it won't be £35k though

[Marc p]

JSquaredJim said:

The 2.3 has a "sound symposer tube" as per the V8 to allow more of the inlet noise into the cabin. Nothing artificial is going on using the cars Speakers. I should know, I designed the tube!

Marc p said:

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the 2.3 sounds like a crock of st outside, the interior noise is all fake and played through the speakers to sound a little more V8ish

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/24/ford-mustang-ec...

No offence, but your wrong, the V8 has this tube, but the ecoboost has an artificial sound played through the speakers, plenty of articles on it:

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/16661/20140928/2...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/10544294/New-...

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/9/29/Really-The-F...

http://jalopnik.com/the-2015-ford-mustang-ecoboost...

[soad]

A cut-price M4 rival?

[marting]

soad said:

A cut-price M4 rival?

See above, I just got a tellin'

[Debaser]

marting said:

I can see the appeal, but 35k buys a pretty good second hand V8 M3. Can it really compete with an M3?

35k also buys a second hand Ferrari, and Ferraris are way better than Mustangs!

[Marc p]

Debaser said:

marting said:

I can see the appeal, but 35k buys a pretty good second hand V8 M3. Can it really compete with an M3?

35k also buys a second hand Ferrari, and Ferraris are way better than Mustangs!

For £35k, I could get an e46 M3, range rover, Porsche 944, a Caterham and maybe a decent trailer aswell! All for the price of one 2nd hand M3, what loony would buy the M3!

[Charlie Michael]

marting said:

soad said:

A cut-price M4 rival?

See above, I just got a tellin'

Because you quoted a used M3 versus a new Mustang - a new M4 will be 20k + more than a Mustang so it's not in the same price bracket - 1 is a V8 muscle car - the other is a turbo six fast coupe/saloon.

Different cars at different price points for different people - that's why you got 'a tellin'

[Silverbullet767]

Marc p said:

Debaser said:

marting said:

I can see the appeal, but 35k buys a pretty good second hand V8 M3. Can it really compete with an M3?

35k also buys a second hand Ferrari, and Ferraris are way better than Mustangs!

For £35k, I could get an e46 M3, range rover, Porsche 944, a Caterham and maybe a decent trailer aswell! All for the price of one 2nd hand M3, what loony would buy the M3!

Why buy all of that when £35k could get me 3,500,000 penny chews. And not you or my doctor can tell me THAT'S a bad idea.

[Marc p]

Silverbullet767 said:

Marc p said:

Debaser said:

marting said:

I can see the appeal, but 35k buys a pretty good second hand V8 M3. Can it really compete with an M3?

35k also buys a second hand Ferrari, and Ferraris are way better than Mustangs!

For £35k, I could get an e46 M3, range rover, Porsche 944, a Caterham and maybe a decent trailer aswell! All for the price of one 2nd hand M3, what loony would buy the M3!

Why buy all of that when £35k could get me 3,500,000 penny chews. And not you or my doctor can tell me THAT'S a bad idea.

Screw it, I'll buy 5,000 cans of Hammerite underbody seal and start a whole new career path working for myself and undersealing everyones cars, I can't see how the mustang will compete with an opportunity like that.

[crofty1984]

I think they pump some of the V8 sound in through the speakers on this one, don't they?