RE: Scrappage carnage detailed
Discussion
Anyone can make mistakes. Was there an online system for the dealers to use? If so you'd think they could've had a go at validating the data...Fox- said:
Surely this list is riddled with bizarre errors - apparently 2 people used scrappage with BMW MINI Clubman's in 2009, a car that was at most 2 years old. Or a BMW X3 - of which none were more than 5 years old or worth less than 10 grand?
I think these are what the scrapped car was traded in against. There are allegedly BMW 1 series as well on the list, I doubt even an unrepaired category C or D write off of the oldest 1 series is worth much less than £2000.Wouldn't let me get past Renault when I opened the file in Excel but it is indeed enough to make a grown man weep.. 
Alfa 155 Silverstone (was that the one with the dodgy rear wing brackets for BTCC?)
Alfa 164 V6 Cloverleaf
Alfa 33 Cloverleaf
Audi A8 x 35
Austin Healy Sprite
BMW 328 x 199
BMW 6 Series x 22
BMW 7 Series x 286
BMW 8 Series x 2
BMW M3 x 2
Chevy Camaro
Chevy Corvette
Fiat Barchetta x 33
Fiat Coupe x 137
Ford Escort RS Turbo x 3
Ford Escort RS 2000 x 3
Ford Fiesta XR2 x 22
Ford Mondeo ST24 x 22
Ford Mustang GT
Ford XR 4x4 x 8
Honda CRX x 39
Range Rovers x 266
Mazda MX-5 x 708
Mazda MX-3 x 227
MG Midgets x 60
MGBs x 105
Nissan 300ZX x 10
Opel Manta GTE
Reliant Scimitars x 21
Renault 5 GT Turbo x 2
(Its true. The Toad has no life.)
I had mainly Pugwash 106s and Rover 25/216s come across my desk during this period. I did send an immaculate Rover 100 Kensington with 44k on the clock to an early grave.
Don't forget by the way, that a lot of the details of these cars were probably entered onto the system by administration staff rather than the actual salesmen & they wouldn't have a clue how to spell some brands or what sub-models they might have been.
Alfa 155 Silverstone (was that the one with the dodgy rear wing brackets for BTCC?)
Alfa 164 V6 Cloverleaf
Alfa 33 Cloverleaf
Audi A8 x 35
Austin Healy Sprite
BMW 328 x 199
BMW 6 Series x 22
BMW 7 Series x 286
BMW 8 Series x 2
BMW M3 x 2
Chevy Camaro
Chevy Corvette
Fiat Barchetta x 33
Fiat Coupe x 137
Ford Escort RS Turbo x 3
Ford Escort RS 2000 x 3
Ford Fiesta XR2 x 22
Ford Mondeo ST24 x 22
Ford Mustang GT
Ford XR 4x4 x 8
Honda CRX x 39
Range Rovers x 266
Mazda MX-5 x 708
Mazda MX-3 x 227
MG Midgets x 60
MGBs x 105
Nissan 300ZX x 10
Opel Manta GTE
Reliant Scimitars x 21
Renault 5 GT Turbo x 2
(Its true. The Toad has no life.)
I had mainly Pugwash 106s and Rover 25/216s come across my desk during this period. I did send an immaculate Rover 100 Kensington with 44k on the clock to an early grave.
Don't forget by the way, that a lot of the details of these cars were probably entered onto the system by administration staff rather than the actual salesmen & they wouldn't have a clue how to spell some brands or what sub-models they might have been.
Truckosaurus said:
For the more fancy cars I wonder how many were actually in proper working condition, and not recently crashed or succumbed to a fatal breakdown.
Did the scrapped cars actually have to be independently verified? Could the dealer and punter be in cahoots and strip a rare car for spares first and just send the shell for scrap - therefore earning double-bubble for the car.
I scrapped a 306 and the car had to be MOT'd and I had to have owned it for 1 or 2 years (cant remember now) but the process was quite strict. I gave BMW all the docs (MOT / V5) for the Pug and they then came and took the car on a loader one day never to be seen again. I think there is a section on the V5 which you have to fill in to scrap a car which, if I remember right, they did when the deal went through ok; after which time the car was theirs to take.Did the scrapped cars actually have to be independently verified? Could the dealer and punter be in cahoots and strip a rare car for spares first and just send the shell for scrap - therefore earning double-bubble for the car.
I bought the car 3 years previously for just under a grand and took it to about 160K (with a very lax maintenance schedule) so to get 2k for it was a no brainer for me....some real classics on that list though...
SuperHangOn said:
Devil2575 said:
Stop for a minute and think.
Do you actually believe that anyone traded in an XJC that was worth saving for £2k?
Same question about the 3.0 CSI?
Neither car would be owned and driven by anyone other than an enthusiast. People who aren't into cars simply don't drive stuff like that. An enthusiast would know what the car was worth.
Also, both are more than capable of being rusted beyond the point where repair is worth the time/effort not least the cost.
Probably an old duffer who had no idea of its value and just wanted an automatic Hyundai to nip to Sainsburys in. They are about, especially on the south coast.Do you actually believe that anyone traded in an XJC that was worth saving for £2k?
Same question about the 3.0 CSI?
Neither car would be owned and driven by anyone other than an enthusiast. People who aren't into cars simply don't drive stuff like that. An enthusiast would know what the car was worth.
Also, both are more than capable of being rusted beyond the point where repair is worth the time/effort not least the cost.
I'm sorry but if anyone thinks that an in anyway serviceable XJC or CSI were scrapped for 2k then they're the fools. There are far too many people getting worked up about a story with more holes in it than a colander.
k around with it now Devil2575 said:
Stop for a minute and think.
Do you actually believe that anyone traded in an XJC that was worth saving for £2k?
Same question about the 3.0 CSI?
Neither car would be owned and driven by anyone other than an enthusiast. People who aren't into cars simply don't drive stuff like that. An enthusiast would know what the car was worth.
Also, both are more than capable of being rusted beyond the point where repair is worth the time/effort not least the cost.
Because there are a lot of lazy people out there, they probably saw it as a way to get 2k off a car thinking selling it is a hassle. These cars aren't the sort used as daily drivers.Do you actually believe that anyone traded in an XJC that was worth saving for £2k?
Same question about the 3.0 CSI?
Neither car would be owned and driven by anyone other than an enthusiast. People who aren't into cars simply don't drive stuff like that. An enthusiast would know what the car was worth.
Also, both are more than capable of being rusted beyond the point where repair is worth the time/effort not least the cost.
the trouble with the scrappage,apart from the older cars being taken off the road, many dealers made a killing, cars that were discounted heavily now sold for full price! taking away the £2000 people thought their "scrap cars/classics" were earning them against a new Korean car.
now a few years on, those i30's and the like are't worth much now.
now a few years on, those i30's and the like are't worth much now.
Truckosaurus said:
For the more fancy cars I wonder how many were actually in proper working condition, and not recently crashed or succumbed to a fatal breakdown.
Did the scrapped cars actually have to be independently verified? Could the dealer and punter be in cahoots and strip a rare car for spares first and just send the shell for scrap - therefore earning double-bubble for the car.
I towed my neighbours range rover P38 4.0 to the dealer for him - it only had a shell and wheels - non of which were the right ones - but it had an mot and v5 in his name for more than 12 months and thus it qualified.Did the scrapped cars actually have to be independently verified? Could the dealer and punter be in cahoots and strip a rare car for spares first and just send the shell for scrap - therefore earning double-bubble for the car.
My wife sent this car in scrap for Hyundai i20. why? the Madza 323F has broken rings (known issue on 1.5L engine) it cannot be repaired. It made so much smoke, the oil in sump was ran out when i arrived at dealership. and i had to keep the engine running near redline otherwise it would cut out 
Glad i done it to this car, was sick of fixing it every week.
Glad i done it to this car, was sick of fixing it every week.
Most scrapped models:
Model Total %
FORD FIESTA 29946 7.64%
VAUXHALL CORSA 19157 4.89%
NISSAN MICRA 17693 4.51%
FORD ESCORT 16161 4.12%
VOLKSWAGEN POLO 15406 3.93%
VAUXHALL ASTRA 14833 3.78%
RENAULT CLIO 14016 3.58%
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 11215 2.86%
PEUGEOT 106 11154 2.85%
FORD MONDEO 9703 2.48%
PEUGEOT 306 9509 2.43%
FIAT PUNTO 8580 2.19%
FORD KA 7887 2.01%
RENAULT MEGANE 7193 1.84%
HONDA CIVIC 6938 1.77%
VAUXHALL VECTRA 5366 1.37%
BMW 3 5066 1.29%
CITROEN SAXO 5052 1.29%
TOYOTA COROLLA 5026 1.28%
ROVER 214 4222 1.08%
NISSAN PRIMERA 3647 0.93%
NISSAN ALMERA 3462 0.88%
FORD FOCUS 3400 0.87%
PEUGEOT 206 3296 0.84%
SKODA FELICIA 3279 0.84%
PEUGEOT 406 3159 0.81%
RENAULT LAGUNA 2888 0.74%
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 2855 0.73%
VAUXHALL CAVALIER 2739 0.70%
TOYOTA CARINA 2685 0.69%
PEUGEOT 205 2580 0.66%
MAZDA 323 2398 0.61%
CITROEN ZX 2396 0.61%
ROVER 200 2392 0.61%
HYUNDAI ACCENT 2360 0.60%
CITROEN AX 2161 0.55%
ROVER 416 2070 0.53%
ROVER 100 2059 0.53%
HONDA ACCORD 2054 0.52%
AUDI A4 1965 0.50%
ROVER 216 1853 0.47%
MERCEDES C 1851 0.47%
BMW 5 1832 0.47%
TOYOTA STARLET 1794 0.46%
NISSAN SUNNY 1664 0.42%
ROVER METRO 1623 0.41%
FIAT CINQUECENTO 1603 0.41%
SEAT IBIZA 1547 0.39%
CITROEN XANTIA 1525 0.39%
VOLVO 440 1491 0.38%
FORD TRANSIT 1468 0.37%
ROVER 414 1416 0.36%
ROVER 400 1410 0.36%
LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 1374 0.35%
PEUGEOT 405 1367 0.35%
VOLVO S40 1344 0.34%
CITROEN XSARA 1257 0.32%
ROVER 420 1230 0.31%
DAEWOO LANOS 1198 0.31%
MERCEDES E 1196 0.31%
VOLVO V40 1189 0.30%
SAAB 900 1189 0.30%
TOYOTA AVENSIS 1180 0.30%
VOLVO 850 1114 0.28%
MAZDA 626 1069 0.27%
FORD GALAXY 1069 0.27%
DAEWOO MATIZ 1047 0.27%
FIAT SEICENTO 1019 0.26%
SUZUKI VITARA 1008 0.26%
FIAT BRAVA 1002 0.26%
VOLVO 940 1000 0.26%
ROVER 220 940 0.24%
SUZUKI SWIFT 934 0.24%
FORD PUMA 927 0.24%
VAUXHALL TIGRA 921 0.23%
ROVER 620 914 0.23%
FIAT BRAVO 873 0.22%
VAUXHALL OMEGA 853 0.22%
PROTON PERSONA 840 0.21%
TOYOTA YARIS 837 0.21%
AUDI 80 802 0.20%
FORD SIERRA 786 0.20%
MITSUBISHI CARISMA 767 0.20%
HYUNDAI LANTRA 766 0.20%
MITSUBISHI COLT 759 0.19%
VOLVO V70 736 0.19%
MERCEDES 190 733 0.19%
MG MGF 691 0.18%
LAND ROVER FREELANDER 661 0.17%
VAUXHALL FRONTERA 635 0.16%
VAUXHALL NOVA 632 0.16%
RENAULT 5 623 0.16%
AUDI A3 586 0.15%
VOLVO 740 577 0.15%
SAAB 9000 565 0.14%
MERCEDES A 564 0.14%
AUDI A6 558 0.14%
VAUXHALL COMBO 554 0.14%
RENAULT 19 552 0.14%
SEAT AROSA 551 0.14%
FORD Orion 534 0.14%
ROVER 114 532 0.14%
TOYOTA RAV4 517 0.13%
HYUNDAI COUPE 503 0.13%
JEEP CHEROKEE 490 0.13%
RENAULT ESPACE 488 0.12%
CITROEN BERLINGO 485 0.12%
KIA PRIDE 482 0.12%
TOYOTA CELICA 479 0.12%
MITSUBISHI SHOGUN 469 0.12%
TOYOTA PREVIA 424 0.11%
VOLVO 240 423 0.11%
ROVER MINI 422 0.11%
HYUNDAI ATOZ 420 0.11%
MAZDA 121 418 0.11%
SUZUKI BALENO 416 0.11%
ROVER 600 413 0.11%
SKODA OCTAVIA 413 0.11%
DAEWOO NEXIA 404 0.10%
VOLKSWAGEN SHARAN 400 0.10%
PEUGEOT 309 400 0.10%
ROVER 218 381 0.10%
FIAT UNO 381 0.10%
TOYOTA MR2 375 0.10%
MAZDA MX-5 371 0.09%
SEAT CORDOBA 365 0.09%
SUBARU LEGACY 358 0.09%
NISSAN BLUEBIRD 348 0.09%
DAIHATSU CHARADE 348 0.09%
FIAT MAREA 344 0.09%
RENAULT KANGOO 334 0.09%
MITSUBISHI SPACE 326 0.08%
FORD SCORPIO 325 0.08%
FORD KA3 325 0.08%
VOLKSWAGEN CADDY 319 0.08%
RENAULT SCENIC 319 0.08%
SUZUKI ALTO 316 0.08%
HONDA PRELUDE 313 0.08%
SUBARU IMPREZA 310 0.08%
SKODA FAVORIT 310 0.08%
FORD COUGAR 310 0.08%
SAAB 93 428 0.11%
ISUZU TROOPER 299 0.08%
DAIHATSU CUORE 299 0.08%
SUZUKI WAGON 295 0.08%
ALFA ROMEO 156 290 0.07%
DAIHATSU FOURTRAK 288 0.07%
ROVER 214I 285 0.07%
BMW 7 280 0.07%
DAEWOO NUBIRA 275 0.07%
FORD MAVERICK 272 0.07%
VOLVO 340 270 0.07%
VOLKSWAGEN VENTO 269 0.07%
VOLVO 460 268 0.07%
VOLKSWAGEN LUPO 265 0.07%
FORD GRANADA 265 0.07%
PEUGEOT PARTNER 263 0.07%
TOYOTA CAMRY 260 0.07%
HONDA CONCERTO 259 0.07%
ROVER 211 256 0.07%
ROVER 111 254 0.06%
CHRYSLER NEON 249 0.06%
NISSAN TERRANO 248 0.06%
LAND ROVER RANGE 248 0.06%
NISSAN SERENA 245 0.06%
TOYOTA RAV 242 0.06%
TOYOTA PICNIC 240 0.06%
DAEWOO LEGANZA 240 0.06%
SEAT TOLEDO 239 0.06%
MITSUBISHI GALANT 239 0.06%
SEAT ALHAMBRA 238 0.06%
TOYOTA HIACE 236 0.06%
MAZDA MX5 236 0.06%
VAUXHALL ASTRAVAN 234 0.06%
AUSTIN MINI 234 0.06%
JAGUAR XJ6 232 0.06%
FIAT PANDA 232 0.06%
HONDA CR-V 230 0.06%
SAAB 95 349 0.09%
CARBODIES TAXI/HIRE 225 0.06%
FIAT TIPO 223 0.06%
ROVER 820 222 0.06%
MAZDA MX-3 220 0.06%
SUBARU JUSTY 219 0.06%
MERCEDES 300 214 0.05%
ROVER 618 211 0.05%
VOLVO S70 210 0.05%
VOLKSWAGEN TRANSPORTER 208 0.05%
VOLKSWAGEN BORA 206 0.05%
FORD PROBE 205 0.05%
DAIHATSU SPORTRAK 202 0.05%
JEEP GRAND 200 0.05%
NISSAN VANETTE 196 0.05%
VAUXHALL CALIBRA 186 0.05%
VAUXHALL ZAFIRA 184 0.05%
CHRYSLER VOYAGER 184 0.05%
DAEWOO ESPERO 181 0.05%
LAND ROVER DEFENDER 180 0.05%
VOLVO 960 176 0.04%
MAZDA 323F 176 0.04%
MERCEDES 200 176 0.04%
ROVER 416I 174 0.04%
MAZDA XEDOS 172 0.04%
VOLVO 480 167 0.04%
MERCEDES VITO 165 0.04%
ALFA ROMEO 146 159 0.04%
AUSTIN METRO 158 0.04%
KIA MENTOR 153 0.04%
MG B 147 0.04%
FIAT COUPE 146 0.04%
NISSAN 100 144 0.04%
DAIHATSU HIJET 143 0.04%
ROVER 25 141 0.04%
VAUXHALL CARLTON 140 0.04%
TOYOTA RAV-4 140 0.04%
JAGUAR XJ 139 0.04%
ROVER 418 138 0.04%
HONDA CRV 138 0.04%
ROVER 75 136 0.03%
JAGUAR SOVEREIGN 136 0.03%
MAZDA DEMIO 136 0.03%
HONDA SHUTTLE 136 0.03%
DAIHATSU SIRION 125 0.03%
VOLVO S80 124 0.03%
SUBARU FORESTER 121 0.03%
ROVER 211I 119 0.03%
FORD EXPLORER 119 0.03%
FIAT ULYSSE 119 0.03%
MERCEDES 230 117 0.03%
FIAT SCUDO 117 0.03%
DAIHATSU GRAND 115 0.03%
TOYOTA HILUX 114 0.03%
MAZDA MX 114 0.03%
KIA SPORTAGE 113 0.03%
ALFA ROMEO 145 113 0.03%
DAIHATSU TERIOS 113 0.03%
CITROEN BX 112 0.03%
PEUGEOT 806 111 0.03%
AUDI 100 110 0.03%
ROVER 800 109 0.03%
MERCEDES SPRINTER 109 0.03%
PROTON GL 108 0.03%
RENAULT EXTRA 107 0.03%
ROVER 414I 107 0.03%
LAND ROVER 90 106 0.03%
ROVER MAESTRO 105 0.03%
SAAB 900S 105 0.03%
ROVER 623 103 0.03%
CITROEN DISPATCH 103 0.03%
TOYOTA PASEO 100 0.03%
PROTON GLS 100 0.03%
And brands:
Brand Count %
FORD 74051 18.89%
VAUXHALL 47087 12.01%
PEUGEOT 32361 8.26%
VOLKSWAGEN 31886 8.13%
NISSAN 28250 7.21%
RENAULT 27177 6.93%
ROVER 25126 6.41%
TOYOTA 15144 3.86%
FIAT 14983 3.82%
CITROEN 13746 3.51%
HONDA 10368 2.65%
VOLVO 9420 2.40%
BMW 7269 1.85%
MERCEDES 6072 1.55%
MAZDA 5664 1.45%
HYUNDAI 4474 1.14%
AUDI 4380 1.12%
SKODA 4152 1.06%
SUZUKI 3494 0.89%
DAEWOO 3371 0.86%
SEAT 3090 0.79%
MITSUBISHI 3033 0.77%
LAND ROVER 2930 0.75%
SAAB 2733 0.70%
DAIHATSU 1830 0.47%
PROTON 1393 0.36%
SUBARU 1083 0.28%
MG 955 0.24%
ALFA ROMEO 847 0.22%
KIA 812 0.21%
JEEP 752 0.19%
JAGUAR 726 0.19%
CHRYSLER 513 0.13%
AUSTIN 508 0.13%
ISUZU 332 0.08%
LDV 247 0.06%
CARBODIES 242 0.06%
LEXUS 201 0.05%
MORRIS 132 0.03%
TRIUMPH 125 0.03%
PORSCHE 101 0.03%
OPEL 98 0.03%
SSANGYONG 83 0.02%
BEDFORD 81 0.02%
PERODUA 78 0.02%
LTI 63 0.02%
METROCAB 51 0.01%
IVECO 43 0.01%
RELIANT 35 0.01%
LADA 35 0.01%
. 33 0.01%
LEYLAND DAF 30 0.01%
MINI 26 0.01%
TALBOT 24 0.01%
LANCIA 23 0.01%
DATSUN 22 0.01%
TATA 20 0.01%
CHEVROLET 16 0.00%
YUGO 12 0.00%
HILLMAN 11 0.00%
SMART 10 0.00%
CHEVROLET GMC 7 0.00%
LEYLAND 7 0.00%
RILEY 6 0.00%
ASIA 6 0.00%
MCC 6 0.00%
VANDEN PLAS 5 0.00%
DAIMLER 5 0.00%
FSO 5 0.00%
CADILLAC 5 0.00%
DODGE 5 0.00%
PONTIAC 4 0.00%
AIXAM 4 0.00%
FAIRWAY 4 0.00%
WOLSELEY 4 0.00%
DAWEOO 3 0.00%
FREIGHT ROVER 3 0.00%
LOTUS 3 0.00%
MAHINDRA 2 0.00%
SINGER 2 0.00%
SUNBEAM 2 0.00%
STANDARD 2 0.00%
HUMBER 2 0.00%
WILCOX 1 0.00%
BANHAM 1 0.00%
TRABANT 1 0.00%
DAF BUS 1 0.00%
PILGRIM 1 0.00%
QUANTUM 1 0.00%
KIT CAR 1 0.00%
TAXI 1 0.00%
VESPA 1 0.00%
UMM 1 0.00%
AUTOBARN 1 0.00%
MORGAN 1 0.00%
TVR 1 0.00%
MARLIN 1 0.00%
FORESTER 1 0.00%
LINCOLN 1 0.00%
OLDSMOBILE 1 0.00%
DOUGLAS 1 0.00%
DUTTON 1 0.00%
RICKMAN 1 0.00%
HOLDEN 1 0.00%
BUICK 1 0.00%
Model Total %
FORD FIESTA 29946 7.64%
VAUXHALL CORSA 19157 4.89%
NISSAN MICRA 17693 4.51%
FORD ESCORT 16161 4.12%
VOLKSWAGEN POLO 15406 3.93%
VAUXHALL ASTRA 14833 3.78%
RENAULT CLIO 14016 3.58%
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 11215 2.86%
PEUGEOT 106 11154 2.85%
FORD MONDEO 9703 2.48%
PEUGEOT 306 9509 2.43%
FIAT PUNTO 8580 2.19%
FORD KA 7887 2.01%
RENAULT MEGANE 7193 1.84%
HONDA CIVIC 6938 1.77%
VAUXHALL VECTRA 5366 1.37%
BMW 3 5066 1.29%
CITROEN SAXO 5052 1.29%
TOYOTA COROLLA 5026 1.28%
ROVER 214 4222 1.08%
NISSAN PRIMERA 3647 0.93%
NISSAN ALMERA 3462 0.88%
FORD FOCUS 3400 0.87%
PEUGEOT 206 3296 0.84%
SKODA FELICIA 3279 0.84%
PEUGEOT 406 3159 0.81%
RENAULT LAGUNA 2888 0.74%
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 2855 0.73%
VAUXHALL CAVALIER 2739 0.70%
TOYOTA CARINA 2685 0.69%
PEUGEOT 205 2580 0.66%
MAZDA 323 2398 0.61%
CITROEN ZX 2396 0.61%
ROVER 200 2392 0.61%
HYUNDAI ACCENT 2360 0.60%
CITROEN AX 2161 0.55%
ROVER 416 2070 0.53%
ROVER 100 2059 0.53%
HONDA ACCORD 2054 0.52%
AUDI A4 1965 0.50%
ROVER 216 1853 0.47%
MERCEDES C 1851 0.47%
BMW 5 1832 0.47%
TOYOTA STARLET 1794 0.46%
NISSAN SUNNY 1664 0.42%
ROVER METRO 1623 0.41%
FIAT CINQUECENTO 1603 0.41%
SEAT IBIZA 1547 0.39%
CITROEN XANTIA 1525 0.39%
VOLVO 440 1491 0.38%
FORD TRANSIT 1468 0.37%
ROVER 414 1416 0.36%
ROVER 400 1410 0.36%
LAND ROVER DISCOVERY 1374 0.35%
PEUGEOT 405 1367 0.35%
VOLVO S40 1344 0.34%
CITROEN XSARA 1257 0.32%
ROVER 420 1230 0.31%
DAEWOO LANOS 1198 0.31%
MERCEDES E 1196 0.31%
VOLVO V40 1189 0.30%
SAAB 900 1189 0.30%
TOYOTA AVENSIS 1180 0.30%
VOLVO 850 1114 0.28%
MAZDA 626 1069 0.27%
FORD GALAXY 1069 0.27%
DAEWOO MATIZ 1047 0.27%
FIAT SEICENTO 1019 0.26%
SUZUKI VITARA 1008 0.26%
FIAT BRAVA 1002 0.26%
VOLVO 940 1000 0.26%
ROVER 220 940 0.24%
SUZUKI SWIFT 934 0.24%
FORD PUMA 927 0.24%
VAUXHALL TIGRA 921 0.23%
ROVER 620 914 0.23%
FIAT BRAVO 873 0.22%
VAUXHALL OMEGA 853 0.22%
PROTON PERSONA 840 0.21%
TOYOTA YARIS 837 0.21%
AUDI 80 802 0.20%
FORD SIERRA 786 0.20%
MITSUBISHI CARISMA 767 0.20%
HYUNDAI LANTRA 766 0.20%
MITSUBISHI COLT 759 0.19%
VOLVO V70 736 0.19%
MERCEDES 190 733 0.19%
MG MGF 691 0.18%
LAND ROVER FREELANDER 661 0.17%
VAUXHALL FRONTERA 635 0.16%
VAUXHALL NOVA 632 0.16%
RENAULT 5 623 0.16%
AUDI A3 586 0.15%
VOLVO 740 577 0.15%
SAAB 9000 565 0.14%
MERCEDES A 564 0.14%
AUDI A6 558 0.14%
VAUXHALL COMBO 554 0.14%
RENAULT 19 552 0.14%
SEAT AROSA 551 0.14%
FORD Orion 534 0.14%
ROVER 114 532 0.14%
TOYOTA RAV4 517 0.13%
HYUNDAI COUPE 503 0.13%
JEEP CHEROKEE 490 0.13%
RENAULT ESPACE 488 0.12%
CITROEN BERLINGO 485 0.12%
KIA PRIDE 482 0.12%
TOYOTA CELICA 479 0.12%
MITSUBISHI SHOGUN 469 0.12%
TOYOTA PREVIA 424 0.11%
VOLVO 240 423 0.11%
ROVER MINI 422 0.11%
HYUNDAI ATOZ 420 0.11%
MAZDA 121 418 0.11%
SUZUKI BALENO 416 0.11%
ROVER 600 413 0.11%
SKODA OCTAVIA 413 0.11%
DAEWOO NEXIA 404 0.10%
VOLKSWAGEN SHARAN 400 0.10%
PEUGEOT 309 400 0.10%
ROVER 218 381 0.10%
FIAT UNO 381 0.10%
TOYOTA MR2 375 0.10%
MAZDA MX-5 371 0.09%
SEAT CORDOBA 365 0.09%
SUBARU LEGACY 358 0.09%
NISSAN BLUEBIRD 348 0.09%
DAIHATSU CHARADE 348 0.09%
FIAT MAREA 344 0.09%
RENAULT KANGOO 334 0.09%
MITSUBISHI SPACE 326 0.08%
FORD SCORPIO 325 0.08%
FORD KA3 325 0.08%
VOLKSWAGEN CADDY 319 0.08%
RENAULT SCENIC 319 0.08%
SUZUKI ALTO 316 0.08%
HONDA PRELUDE 313 0.08%
SUBARU IMPREZA 310 0.08%
SKODA FAVORIT 310 0.08%
FORD COUGAR 310 0.08%
SAAB 93 428 0.11%
ISUZU TROOPER 299 0.08%
DAIHATSU CUORE 299 0.08%
SUZUKI WAGON 295 0.08%
ALFA ROMEO 156 290 0.07%
DAIHATSU FOURTRAK 288 0.07%
ROVER 214I 285 0.07%
BMW 7 280 0.07%
DAEWOO NUBIRA 275 0.07%
FORD MAVERICK 272 0.07%
VOLVO 340 270 0.07%
VOLKSWAGEN VENTO 269 0.07%
VOLVO 460 268 0.07%
VOLKSWAGEN LUPO 265 0.07%
FORD GRANADA 265 0.07%
PEUGEOT PARTNER 263 0.07%
TOYOTA CAMRY 260 0.07%
HONDA CONCERTO 259 0.07%
ROVER 211 256 0.07%
ROVER 111 254 0.06%
CHRYSLER NEON 249 0.06%
NISSAN TERRANO 248 0.06%
LAND ROVER RANGE 248 0.06%
NISSAN SERENA 245 0.06%
TOYOTA RAV 242 0.06%
TOYOTA PICNIC 240 0.06%
DAEWOO LEGANZA 240 0.06%
SEAT TOLEDO 239 0.06%
MITSUBISHI GALANT 239 0.06%
SEAT ALHAMBRA 238 0.06%
TOYOTA HIACE 236 0.06%
MAZDA MX5 236 0.06%
VAUXHALL ASTRAVAN 234 0.06%
AUSTIN MINI 234 0.06%
JAGUAR XJ6 232 0.06%
FIAT PANDA 232 0.06%
HONDA CR-V 230 0.06%
SAAB 95 349 0.09%
CARBODIES TAXI/HIRE 225 0.06%
FIAT TIPO 223 0.06%
ROVER 820 222 0.06%
MAZDA MX-3 220 0.06%
SUBARU JUSTY 219 0.06%
MERCEDES 300 214 0.05%
ROVER 618 211 0.05%
VOLVO S70 210 0.05%
VOLKSWAGEN TRANSPORTER 208 0.05%
VOLKSWAGEN BORA 206 0.05%
FORD PROBE 205 0.05%
DAIHATSU SPORTRAK 202 0.05%
JEEP GRAND 200 0.05%
NISSAN VANETTE 196 0.05%
VAUXHALL CALIBRA 186 0.05%
VAUXHALL ZAFIRA 184 0.05%
CHRYSLER VOYAGER 184 0.05%
DAEWOO ESPERO 181 0.05%
LAND ROVER DEFENDER 180 0.05%
VOLVO 960 176 0.04%
MAZDA 323F 176 0.04%
MERCEDES 200 176 0.04%
ROVER 416I 174 0.04%
MAZDA XEDOS 172 0.04%
VOLVO 480 167 0.04%
MERCEDES VITO 165 0.04%
ALFA ROMEO 146 159 0.04%
AUSTIN METRO 158 0.04%
KIA MENTOR 153 0.04%
MG B 147 0.04%
FIAT COUPE 146 0.04%
NISSAN 100 144 0.04%
DAIHATSU HIJET 143 0.04%
ROVER 25 141 0.04%
VAUXHALL CARLTON 140 0.04%
TOYOTA RAV-4 140 0.04%
JAGUAR XJ 139 0.04%
ROVER 418 138 0.04%
HONDA CRV 138 0.04%
ROVER 75 136 0.03%
JAGUAR SOVEREIGN 136 0.03%
MAZDA DEMIO 136 0.03%
HONDA SHUTTLE 136 0.03%
DAIHATSU SIRION 125 0.03%
VOLVO S80 124 0.03%
SUBARU FORESTER 121 0.03%
ROVER 211I 119 0.03%
FORD EXPLORER 119 0.03%
FIAT ULYSSE 119 0.03%
MERCEDES 230 117 0.03%
FIAT SCUDO 117 0.03%
DAIHATSU GRAND 115 0.03%
TOYOTA HILUX 114 0.03%
MAZDA MX 114 0.03%
KIA SPORTAGE 113 0.03%
ALFA ROMEO 145 113 0.03%
DAIHATSU TERIOS 113 0.03%
CITROEN BX 112 0.03%
PEUGEOT 806 111 0.03%
AUDI 100 110 0.03%
ROVER 800 109 0.03%
MERCEDES SPRINTER 109 0.03%
PROTON GL 108 0.03%
RENAULT EXTRA 107 0.03%
ROVER 414I 107 0.03%
LAND ROVER 90 106 0.03%
ROVER MAESTRO 105 0.03%
SAAB 900S 105 0.03%
ROVER 623 103 0.03%
CITROEN DISPATCH 103 0.03%
TOYOTA PASEO 100 0.03%
PROTON GLS 100 0.03%
And brands:
Brand Count %
FORD 74051 18.89%
VAUXHALL 47087 12.01%
PEUGEOT 32361 8.26%
VOLKSWAGEN 31886 8.13%
NISSAN 28250 7.21%
RENAULT 27177 6.93%
ROVER 25126 6.41%
TOYOTA 15144 3.86%
FIAT 14983 3.82%
CITROEN 13746 3.51%
HONDA 10368 2.65%
VOLVO 9420 2.40%
BMW 7269 1.85%
MERCEDES 6072 1.55%
MAZDA 5664 1.45%
HYUNDAI 4474 1.14%
AUDI 4380 1.12%
SKODA 4152 1.06%
SUZUKI 3494 0.89%
DAEWOO 3371 0.86%
SEAT 3090 0.79%
MITSUBISHI 3033 0.77%
LAND ROVER 2930 0.75%
SAAB 2733 0.70%
DAIHATSU 1830 0.47%
PROTON 1393 0.36%
SUBARU 1083 0.28%
MG 955 0.24%
ALFA ROMEO 847 0.22%
KIA 812 0.21%
JEEP 752 0.19%
JAGUAR 726 0.19%
CHRYSLER 513 0.13%
AUSTIN 508 0.13%
ISUZU 332 0.08%
LDV 247 0.06%
CARBODIES 242 0.06%
LEXUS 201 0.05%
MORRIS 132 0.03%
TRIUMPH 125 0.03%
PORSCHE 101 0.03%
OPEL 98 0.03%
SSANGYONG 83 0.02%
BEDFORD 81 0.02%
PERODUA 78 0.02%
LTI 63 0.02%
METROCAB 51 0.01%
IVECO 43 0.01%
RELIANT 35 0.01%
LADA 35 0.01%
. 33 0.01%
LEYLAND DAF 30 0.01%
MINI 26 0.01%
TALBOT 24 0.01%
LANCIA 23 0.01%
DATSUN 22 0.01%
TATA 20 0.01%
CHEVROLET 16 0.00%
YUGO 12 0.00%
HILLMAN 11 0.00%
SMART 10 0.00%
CHEVROLET GMC 7 0.00%
LEYLAND 7 0.00%
RILEY 6 0.00%
ASIA 6 0.00%
MCC 6 0.00%
VANDEN PLAS 5 0.00%
DAIMLER 5 0.00%
FSO 5 0.00%
CADILLAC 5 0.00%
DODGE 5 0.00%
PONTIAC 4 0.00%
AIXAM 4 0.00%
FAIRWAY 4 0.00%
WOLSELEY 4 0.00%
DAWEOO 3 0.00%
FREIGHT ROVER 3 0.00%
LOTUS 3 0.00%
MAHINDRA 2 0.00%
SINGER 2 0.00%
SUNBEAM 2 0.00%
STANDARD 2 0.00%
HUMBER 2 0.00%
WILCOX 1 0.00%
BANHAM 1 0.00%
TRABANT 1 0.00%
DAF BUS 1 0.00%
PILGRIM 1 0.00%
QUANTUM 1 0.00%
KIT CAR 1 0.00%
TAXI 1 0.00%
VESPA 1 0.00%
UMM 1 0.00%
AUTOBARN 1 0.00%
MORGAN 1 0.00%
TVR 1 0.00%
MARLIN 1 0.00%
FORESTER 1 0.00%
LINCOLN 1 0.00%
OLDSMOBILE 1 0.00%
DOUGLAS 1 0.00%
DUTTON 1 0.00%
RICKMAN 1 0.00%
HOLDEN 1 0.00%
BUICK 1 0.00%
Edited by thelawnet on Tuesday 30th September 03:15
renorti said:
the trouble with the scrappage,apart from the older cars being taken off the road, many dealers made a killing, cars that were discounted heavily now sold for full price! taking away the £2000 people thought their "scrap cars/classics" were earning them against a new Korean car.
now a few years on, those i30's and the like are't worth much now.
Having worked through the scrappage era at a main dealer selling Vauxhall's I can vouch for us not making a "killing" as the £2000 was paid £1000 from the goverment and the other £1000 from the dealer margin -which on a lot if the models wasn't even enough to cover it! The best bit about the whole thing was the demolition derby's in the storage compound before the cars were collected, best stress reliever I can recommend...now a few years on, those i30's and the like are't worth much now.
A lot of people seem to be overlooking that this was in 2009 too - before the recent upsurge in interest in contemporary classics. A lot of the cars on the list that people are morning genuinely weren't worth much in the market at the time, and anything with any kind of defect that put its repair cost within 2 grand of its value was a candidate.
And to put into further perspective - you can get hold of a Porsche 924 or 944 for less than 2 grand today according to autotrader (where over 40000 cars are currently available for less than 2k). Of course a few good cars slipped through, but plenty of them will have been worthless.
For me though the flaw in the system is that they should have had a mechanism by which the cars could be bought off of the scheme for restoration for £4k. That way there would have been a business for someone saving the worthy cars, all costs would have been more than covered, the new cars would still have been bought and there would have been more money made by the government out of the scheme. All ancient history now, but for the cars currently rotting on runways they surely should be able to get more proactive in turning them into a source of profitable spares...?
And to put into further perspective - you can get hold of a Porsche 924 or 944 for less than 2 grand today according to autotrader (where over 40000 cars are currently available for less than 2k). Of course a few good cars slipped through, but plenty of them will have been worthless.
For me though the flaw in the system is that they should have had a mechanism by which the cars could be bought off of the scheme for restoration for £4k. That way there would have been a business for someone saving the worthy cars, all costs would have been more than covered, the new cars would still have been bought and there would have been more money made by the government out of the scheme. All ancient history now, but for the cars currently rotting on runways they surely should be able to get more proactive in turning them into a source of profitable spares...?
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