RE: Scrappage carnage detailed
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DiscoColin said:
A lot of people seem to be overlooking that this was in 2009 too - before the recent upsurge in interest in contemporary classics. A lot of the cars on the list that people are morning genuinely weren't worth much in the market at the time, and anything with any kind of defect that put its repair cost within 2 grand of its value was a candidate.
This. I sold a well spec'd and decent condition 190E 2.5-16 for £1800 in 2009. If it wasn't broken for spares by the new owner it would be worth >£7.5k by now. At the time it would have been a prime candidate for the scrappage scheme.WojaWabbit said:
DiscoColin said:
A lot of people seem to be overlooking that this was in 2009 too - before the recent upsurge in interest in contemporary classics. A lot of the cars on the list that people are morning genuinely weren't worth much in the market at the time, and anything with any kind of defect that put its repair cost within 2 grand of its value was a candidate.
This. I sold a well spec'd and decent condition 190E 2.5-16 for £1800 in 2009. If it wasn't broken for spares by the new owner it would be worth >£7.5k by now. At the time it would have been a prime candidate for the scrappage scheme.The 924 I took in was a 1977 Automatic model, and was LHD. It was probably worth £400 back then.
tab84 said:
My parts delivery driver told me a few weeks ago that he had spotted a load of cars at Thurleigh Airfield (aka Bedford Autodrome) and a colleague confirmed that these are the scrappage cars. So 5 years down the line the cars are just sat there rotting away.
Pictures from 2010 here:http://discuss.glasgowguide.co.uk/index.php?showto...
2011 here (please don't follow this link if you are of a nervous disposition or love classic cars):
http://www.urbexforums.com/showthread.php/12139-Sc...
jarvie said:
Devil2575 said:
Stop for a minute and think.
Do you actually believe that anyone traded in an XJC that was worth saving for £2k?
Same question about the 3.0 CSI?
Neither car would be owned and driven by anyone other than an enthusiast. People who aren't into cars simply don't drive stuff like that. An enthusiast would know what the car was worth.
Also, both are more than capable of being rusted beyond the point where repair is worth the time/effort not least the cost.
Because there are a lot of lazy people out there, they probably saw it as a way to get 2k off a car thinking selling it is a hassle. These cars aren't the sort used as daily drivers.Do you actually believe that anyone traded in an XJC that was worth saving for £2k?
Same question about the 3.0 CSI?
Neither car would be owned and driven by anyone other than an enthusiast. People who aren't into cars simply don't drive stuff like that. An enthusiast would know what the car was worth.
Also, both are more than capable of being rusted beyond the point where repair is worth the time/effort not least the cost.
If, and I say if because this list has more errors than Jade Goody's GCSE maths paper, these cars really were traded in during the scrappage scheme for £2k then they will not have been usable examples worth saving. No one pays the cash required to keep a car like a 3.0 CSI is reasonable working order and then just decides to get rid of it for £2k.
Save Ferris said:
I agree, also the vast majority of the cars we took in, were in poor condition. Many of them with serious faults.
The 924 I took in was a 1977 Automatic model, and was LHD. It was probably worth £400 back then.
No, don't lie, it was a 924 Carerra GT wasn't it. You money grabbing salesmen, backed up by a car hating government contrived to needlessly destroy thousands of mint condition, valuable, rare classics.The 924 I took in was a 1977 Automatic model, and was LHD. It was probably worth £400 back then.
The scheme in the USA was worse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD0Pv6yyGek the engine had to be seized with some chemical this volvo just didn't want to let go!
It just highlights how crazy the whole thing was. As has already been pointed out it will lead to other cars being scrapped due to lack of parts at reasonable prices.
I remember reading an Autocar article about some of the carts which were traded in, one was a Fiat Brava which is maybe expected, but it had only covered 1300 miles from new. Why you would even consider not keep on using that I can't figure. But some of the cars scrapped were clearly classics then and must have been loved by someone who took the discount rather than remembering what they actually had. Very sad.
I remember reading an Autocar article about some of the carts which were traded in, one was a Fiat Brava which is maybe expected, but it had only covered 1300 miles from new. Why you would even consider not keep on using that I can't figure. But some of the cars scrapped were clearly classics then and must have been loved by someone who took the discount rather than remembering what they actually had. Very sad.
DiscoColin said:
A lot of people seem to be overlooking that this was in 2009 too - before the recent upsurge in interest in contemporary classics. A lot of the cars on the list that people are morning genuinely weren't worth much in the market at the time, and anything with any kind of defect that put its repair cost within 2 grand of its value was a candidate.
Exactly this. The car market went through the floor in 2009, hence the reason the scheme was put in place. A friend of mine was toying with exporting a Ferrari to Australia at the time as they were so cheap here. The same cars are now worth 3 times as much as they were at the lowest part of the slump.As the economy started to pick up again, there were a lot of people investing in classic cars as prices were so low, and a lot of cars that are now deemed as modern classics started to attract big price tags.
If you had a rusty old mini that was not going to go through its next MOT and you could get £2000 off a new car no questions asked you would be very tempted (assuming you wanted a new car). even now you can pick up Minis with MOTs for not much more than £1k if you look hard enough....
tab84 said:
That exact MK1 Golf cabrio was sent to scrap by the dealership I worked for at the time. It was replaced by a metallic red Micra 1.2 Sport. Believe me, I tried to stop the owner when he came in to buy mudflaps for the Micra, I only had £3k in savings and offered him the lot but he said no as he had signed the papers. The car had 38000 miles on it and was in show condition. Not a mark on the leather or the paintwork.
My parts delivery driver told me a few weeks ago that he had spotted a load of cars at Thurleigh Airfield (aka Bedford Autodrome) and a colleague confirmed that these are the scrappage cars. So 5 years down the line the cars are just sat there rotting away. It makes me sick.
I had a look at Google maps at Thurleigh Airfield and there does look to be a lot of cars parked up.My parts delivery driver told me a few weeks ago that he had spotted a load of cars at Thurleigh Airfield (aka Bedford Autodrome) and a colleague confirmed that these are the scrappage cars. So 5 years down the line the cars are just sat there rotting away. It makes me sick.
Edited by tab84 on Monday 29th September 20:44
Infact a quick search brought up some old articles.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263548/No...
Edited by Soupie69uk on Tuesday 30th September 12:22
Over here in Ireland, I worked as a gopher in a garage when the scrappage scheme was on. Mostly I remember there being almeras and micras with fragrant and moist interiors. but, as a young lad in my early 20s, it gave me the opportunity to drive a lot of cars I'd never have had the chance to. If something interesting came in I always gave it one last hurrah. Only car we saved was a mk1 mx5 that someone fancied. I think parts from another mx5 were swapped over to make one good one.
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