RE: Scrappage carnage detailed

RE: Scrappage carnage detailed

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Fattyfat

3,301 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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I'm sure the deal worked out well for plenty of people though. My aunt got rid of her elderly and very rusty Corsa, worth literally scrap value and ended up with a new Clio. Zero interest in cars and no doubt she'll keep the Renault for 15 years.

andburg

7,283 posts

169 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Google update imagery over the airfield this year...still rammed with cars!

Negative Creep

24,972 posts

227 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Fattyfat said:
I'm sure the deal worked out well for plenty of people though. My aunt got rid of her elderly and very rusty Corsa, worth literally scrap value and ended up with a new Clio. Zero interest in cars and no doubt she'll keep the Renault for 15 years.
I bet she still would have been given a discount if the scheme hadn't been in place

C.A.R.

3,967 posts

188 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Question is, fellow shed-drivers of PH, would you partake in a similar scheme if it were to happen again?

Was there a minimum amount of time you had to own a car for before selling it on? I could see it working out quite favouribly if you were smart at the time. Take a £250 scrapper with ticket to a dealer for a new car (remember the discounts were often more than £2k off the sticker price) and immediately sell it on at a profit.

Then go out and buy something older / better.

It's what I'd do!

smilo996

2,783 posts

170 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Even if many were not possible to restore, what about the millions of spares? Looking at the Hurragh Mail photos, apart from many cars that looked perfectly fine, so many spares just crushed, ensuring even more cars are going to the scrapper later.


220te

151 posts

209 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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The updated google images look like new cars awaiting delivery to dealers TBH. None of them have sunroofs either.

delmatt

506 posts

191 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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There have been a number of comments about what some of these cars are worth now such as quoting a value of 7500 for a Mercedes 190,

The values of many of these cars that we would now call retro classics was probably in fact pushed up by the demise of so many which has made the survivors potentially much rarer.

The numbers of MX5s and MGs were pretty high as well but could the enthusiast market support so many on the road anyway as they get older?...I doubt it could.

andburg

7,283 posts

169 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Guy at work just asked a potent question....

How much has the government payed to rent out the space for storing the cars? must be costing us a fortune for them to site and rot

pigeonskirt

506 posts

139 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Some manufacturers offered more than £2000 scrappage by utilising their own margin as over allowance. This may have been a contributing factor to people chopping in cars worth more than £2000.

soad

32,890 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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andburg said:
Guy at work just asked a potent question....

How much has the government payed to rent out the space for storing the cars? must be costing us a fortune for them to site and rot
Must cost them a small fortune storing spare wheelie bins too.

Fattyfat

3,301 posts

196 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Negative Creep said:
I bet she still would have been given a discount if the scheme hadn't been in place
No doubt but the deal worked for her. Don't infect the thread with that sort of logic smile

ayseven

130 posts

146 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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What is most upsetting to me is that, when clients of mine are not eligible for their extra health insurance (in my country some things are not covered by government health insurance), I offer to pay them the amount they would get if they DID get insurance, they still won't do it. If a big company, which they have paid premiums to over the years offers something, they take it, much like the government in these cases, but if I offer the same deal, they refuse. Humans make no sense.

Dale487

1,334 posts

123 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Negative Creep said:
Fattyfat said:
I'm sure the deal worked out well for plenty of people though. My aunt got rid of her elderly and very rusty Corsa, worth literally scrap value and ended up with a new Clio. Zero interest in cars and no doubt she'll keep the Renault for 15 years.
I bet she still would have been given a discount if the scheme hadn't been in place
I suspect your right that most dealers could have offered a similar discount with out the scheme but the idea was to keep the economy going. And I bet 99% of people got rid of a rusty old hen house 9like the fore mentioned Corsa - no tears shed here) & got a new, more reliable & economical car. As has been said before enthusiasts general own the future classic & know what they are worth, so I doubt may if any viable future classic bit the dust due to the scheme.

Maxvr6

2 posts

142 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! This is so painful to read, so many classics destroyed before their time, poor little souls, may they rest in peace frown

RSD 25

560 posts

203 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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There is one good news story. I the more i read it, i found out that not a single Sierra Cosworth or Escort Cosworth was traded in & destroyed under this terrible nonsense!

So they must have escaped/are worth too much (even Sapphires!) & all are owned by enthusiasts or one might have slipped through though the net just as a ordinary Sierra or an ordinary Escort which would be unlikely & also very stupid.

But sadly, i found out 3 BMW M3's lost their lives & most likely all of them E36's though.

Triumph Man

8,689 posts

168 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Maxvr6 said:
Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! This is so painful to read, so many classics destroyed before their time, poor little souls, may they rest in peace frown
It always makes me quite sad when I think that once upon a time (more poignantly with the more expensive metal) a man or woman walked into their local dealer and bought a car, and to think of the car sat there, all shiny and new, with the new owner proudly beaming as they get the keys, and now they are reduced to rot heaps.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Turbobanana said:
FastRich said:
can't remember said:
I'd like to think the salesman that typed Citron for Citroen knew exactly what he was doing.
clapbeerlaugh

Few will get that....it's brilliant!
More people speak French than you think wink
less people speak Dutch clearly, cos that's exactly what Citroen means - Andre Citroen's ancestor sold lemons in the Netherlands

Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Hugo a Gogo said:
Turbobanana said:
FastRich said:
can't remember said:
I'd like to think the salesman that typed Citron for Citroen knew exactly what he was doing.
clapbeerlaugh

Few will get that....it's brilliant!
More people speak French than you think wink
less people speak Dutch clearly, cos that's exactly what Citroen means - Andre Citroen's ancestor sold lemons in the Netherlands
Every day is a school day!

Negative Creep

24,972 posts

227 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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Dale487 said:
I suspect your right that most dealers could have offered a similar discount with out the scheme but the idea was to keep the economy going. And I bet 99% of people got rid of a rusty old hen house 9like the fore mentioned Corsa - no tears shed here) & got a new, more reliable & economical car. As has been said before enthusiasts general own the future classic & know what they are worth, so I doubt may if any viable future classic bit the dust due to the scheme.
But even if they weren't classics a large number of perfectly good cars were destroyed, which hurt those on lower incomes needing a cheap runaround

marshall100

1,124 posts

201 months

Tuesday 30th September 2014
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So, how certain are we that these cars have been crushed? or is there a chance they're still there waiting for someone to make an offer to the government to part them out?

The tories love a bit of capitalist coin....