RE: Scrappage carnage detailed
Discussion
Devil2575 said:
It's very easy to get all misty eyed at the name of a car on a spreadsheet. However I suspect that many of the cars scrapped weren't worth saving. To assume they were and get worked up about it just seems daft to be honest.
This, exactly. And for the comment about the Escort Mexico, I remember there was mk6/mk7 version also available? to try and resurrect the name?
It could be one of those (I haven't checked the list btw)..
Spleeble said:
A few that made me cry
Various Minis
Ford Escort Mexico
Triumph TR8
Metro GTA
Lancia Delta Integrale 16v
Daimler Double 6
Jag XJS
Ford P100
Alfa 145 Cloverleaf
The Mexico would have been work £5000 even if it was just a pile of rust. The idea of a quick £2000 was a strong pull for some people.
More likely to be one of these...Various Minis
Ford Escort Mexico
Triumph TR8
Metro GTA
Lancia Delta Integrale 16v
Daimler Double 6
Jag XJS
Ford P100
Alfa 145 Cloverleaf
The Mexico would have been work £5000 even if it was just a pile of rust. The idea of a quick £2000 was a strong pull for some people.
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Probably for the best that its gone!
Edited by GTEYE on Monday 29th September 16:00
I was after a complete rear big bumper for my 1989 Mk1 Golf Cabrio after the support beams had rusted through on the original one. There was no chance of buying one new after 20+ years so I went on ebay.
A VW breakers/ebay dealer in Northants (if memory serves me correctly) had - and this is no exaggeration - an absolutely pristine 1991 Californian import Cabrio being broken for spares. When I contacted them they told me there was nothing wrong with the car at all, bar being a left hander, but it had been traded in for scrap and had to be broken. It had a cream leather interior, air con, electric windows, elec roof, polished Castellet alloys etc. Being a US import it was totally rust free as well. They couldn't believe it but thats how it was.
If any good came out of it, I got my immaculate bumper and a few other VW owners got their fill of parts too. I know they aren't particularly valuable but I recall being dismayed that someone was happy to get rid of a perfect example of a classic for a poxy £2000 off some dull econo-box.
I also read in CCW or something similar that there was a rare 70's Toyota Celica scrapped that was stripped of as much as possible before the shell was crushed. Despite pleas from the owners club it couldn't be saved. It's criminal.
A VW breakers/ebay dealer in Northants (if memory serves me correctly) had - and this is no exaggeration - an absolutely pristine 1991 Californian import Cabrio being broken for spares. When I contacted them they told me there was nothing wrong with the car at all, bar being a left hander, but it had been traded in for scrap and had to be broken. It had a cream leather interior, air con, electric windows, elec roof, polished Castellet alloys etc. Being a US import it was totally rust free as well. They couldn't believe it but thats how it was.
If any good came out of it, I got my immaculate bumper and a few other VW owners got their fill of parts too. I know they aren't particularly valuable but I recall being dismayed that someone was happy to get rid of a perfect example of a classic for a poxy £2000 off some dull econo-box.
I also read in CCW or something similar that there was a rare 70's Toyota Celica scrapped that was stripped of as much as possible before the shell was crushed. Despite pleas from the owners club it couldn't be saved. It's criminal.
I sold Hyundais during the latter half of the Scheme, and have to say it was no fun. Because...
1. The people it brought in were not those you would normally see darkening the doors of a new car dealership - you knew they had scraped together every penny they had to blow on a basic i10 just because their <insert name of shed here> was suddenly worth £2000
2. Hyundai actually went further than most because £2000 was only the discount on the basic i10 mentioned above - by the time you got to a Sonata it was, from memory, over £7000. Which explains why...
3. ...people were dumping all sorts of lovely stuff. One guy had a 944 S2 which he'd been advertising for months (probably optimistically, in fairness) but when he found out the total discount was nearly what he'd been asking it didn't take hime long to make a decision
4. Delivery times went through the roof - we were eventually quoting over 3 months for some i10s
5. No one on the front line earned any money from it - we were paid a basic handling fee and relied on upsale of finance products to make any commission (practically impossible - see comments re type of customer, above)
On the subject of Hyundai showing off about Scrappage, it may not be true but I heard that the only car handed in and NOT crushed was a Morris Minor which the dealer pleaded to be spared. The DVLA agreed, provided all ID was removed (VIN plate, number plates etc) and the car was never again returned to the road.
The only saving grace was that we got to play dodgems with some interesting tackle in the yard, where anything that still went was used to push the others onto the transporter.
1. The people it brought in were not those you would normally see darkening the doors of a new car dealership - you knew they had scraped together every penny they had to blow on a basic i10 just because their <insert name of shed here> was suddenly worth £2000
2. Hyundai actually went further than most because £2000 was only the discount on the basic i10 mentioned above - by the time you got to a Sonata it was, from memory, over £7000. Which explains why...
3. ...people were dumping all sorts of lovely stuff. One guy had a 944 S2 which he'd been advertising for months (probably optimistically, in fairness) but when he found out the total discount was nearly what he'd been asking it didn't take hime long to make a decision
4. Delivery times went through the roof - we were eventually quoting over 3 months for some i10s
5. No one on the front line earned any money from it - we were paid a basic handling fee and relied on upsale of finance products to make any commission (practically impossible - see comments re type of customer, above)
On the subject of Hyundai showing off about Scrappage, it may not be true but I heard that the only car handed in and NOT crushed was a Morris Minor which the dealer pleaded to be spared. The DVLA agreed, provided all ID was removed (VIN plate, number plates etc) and the car was never again returned to the road.
The only saving grace was that we got to play dodgems with some interesting tackle in the yard, where anything that still went was used to push the others onto the transporter.
Quite a few rare cars, RX7, 205 Rallye. Guess they were owned by people who did not know what they were or were needing a lot of work. Bet there were a lot of dealers who got offered some cars they would pay £2k for themselves and sold them on for a small profit and didnt scrap them.
I can't believe they were still making Maestros at 'R' plate. As a pre-driving teen I suffered two of those ('C' plate and a terrible N/A diesel 'G' plate) courtesy of my car-illiterate Dad.
Wonder how many of the '09' plate Hyundai i10's are worth scrappage trade in now? Perhaps the government should reverse the scheme and offer basket-case old Triumphs and Jags in exchange for a five-year-old Korean...?
Wonder how many of the '09' plate Hyundai i10's are worth scrappage trade in now? Perhaps the government should reverse the scheme and offer basket-case old Triumphs and Jags in exchange for a five-year-old Korean...?
how many "rare cars" or exotic cars had been "barried" beyond belief though.
you could imagine the corrado's, the impreza for example might have had loads of customisation that rendered them beyond help ?
how many had bent MOT's on them, enabling them to qualify for the scheme ?
I've certainly had cars limp through MOT's for the tester to tell me, "well you'd be best selling before the next MOT" - especially back in the day when cars needed welding up for every MOT.
you could imagine the corrado's, the impreza for example might have had loads of customisation that rendered them beyond help ?
how many had bent MOT's on them, enabling them to qualify for the scheme ?
I've certainly had cars limp through MOT's for the tester to tell me, "well you'd be best selling before the next MOT" - especially back in the day when cars needed welding up for every MOT.
Devil2575 said:
M3Maverick said:
No way someone has turned in an Audi Quattro, Lancia Delta etc for a £2k scrappage trade in. Something is wrong with that list or something dodgy has gone on
Lots of Audis can be described as a Quattro. It's probably not the 2.2 20V Turbo model that most of us think of though. There did a N/A 10V 2.3 Coupe with 136 bhp IIRC.Lancia Delta 1.6ie?
V8 TEJ said:
This, exactly.
And for the comment about the Escort Mexico, I remember there was mk6/mk7 version also available? to try and resurrect the name?
It could be one of those (I haven't checked the list btw)..
There was. My mum had one, it was the most embarrassing thing to happen to me as a teenager.And for the comment about the Escort Mexico, I remember there was mk6/mk7 version also available? to try and resurrect the name?
It could be one of those (I haven't checked the list btw)..
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