RE: New Civic Type R for Paris

[Kozy]

Vyse said:

OK, they fitted one at the end of the production run, but the majority didn't get them.

[themanwithnoname]

I'm looking forward to this being in the dealerships. Already registered my interest about 3 weeks after getting an FN2.

The wing and exhausts etc really do bring out my inner 5 year old.

[pacdes]

Always wanted to Iron my clothes on the back of a car!
Going to be built in Swindon eh, so build quality as S**t as the last one. eh.

[lord trumpton]

It looks like a transformer

[AmitG]

pacdes said:

Going to be built in Swindon eh, so build quality as S**t as the last one. eh.

Does the Swindon-built Civic really have a poor reputation for reliability? If so, I'm not aware of it.

[pacdes]

Agoogy said:

Love the rear wing and light graphic.
Sadly its been applied to a compromised car design which is well over detailed in terms of fake scoops and holes and diffusers and extra exhaust pipes...
It's standard 21st century hot hatch, but it's just too busy.
Yes its a Touring car for the road....but if you actually drove a car that looked like a Touring car on the road you won't be admired, you'll look a tool... akin to driving around in an Impreza with the full WRC livery ... naff IMO.

Exactly!

[pacdes]

themanwithnoname said:

I'm looking forward to this being in the dealerships. Already registered my interest about 3 weeks after getting an FN2.

The wing and exhausts etc really do bring out my inner 5 year old.

The problem is it's only 5 year olds that are going to admire you!

[Ved]

Maybe he doesn't care what other people think and isn't doing it for public adulation. Maybe he just likes the car.

[pacdes]

AmitG said:

Does the Swindon-built Civic really have a poor reputation for reliability? If so, I'm not aware of it.

Build quality. not reliability... and yes the whole dash rattles worse than a British Leyland Maestro. A proud dealership explained that they had sorted the problem out (unfortunately only coming off the production line) No retrofit solution. Oh said dealership has now gone bust.
Honda have real problems!

[Scousefella]

pacdes said:

Always wanted to Iron my clothes on the back of a car!
Going to be built in Swindon eh, so build quality as S**t as the last one. eh.

Before you spout of a load of bks maybe you should take a look at the facts.

You have f*ck all to say and are saying it too damn loud.

[pacdes]

Ved said:

Maybe he doesn't care what other people think and isn't doing it for public adulation. Maybe he just likes the car.

Yes and maybe he won't care when he returns to his parked car to find it scratched by a youth who hates his 5 year old brother!
Somehow I don't think it will generate public adulation.

[pacdes]

Scousefella said:

Before you spout of a load of bks maybe you should take a look at the facts.

You have f*ck all to say and are saying it too damn loud.

Facts?

[Scousefella]

pacdes said:

Scousefella said:

Before you spout of a load of bks maybe you should take a look at the facts.

You have f*ck all to say and are saying it too damn loud.

Facts?

Swindon build quality - considering that Swindon build to export to Japan I think quality is up to scratch.

Obviously there will always be occasions where issues arise but your generalisation of Swindon build quality being sh*t is way off the mark.

[Ved]

pacdes said:

Yes and maybe he won't care when he returns to his parked car to find it scratched by a youth who hates his 5 year old brother!
Somehow I don't think it will generate public adulation.

Err right...are you here just to talk rubbish?

[bigkeeko]

The last few pistonheads threads I`ve read tonight have descended to petty squabbling.

[pacdes]

Scousefella said:

pacdes said:

Scousefella said:

Before you spout of a load of bks maybe you should take a look at the facts.

You have f*ck all to say and are saying it too damn loud.

Facts?

Swindon build quality - considering that Swindon build to export to Japan I think quality is up to scratch.

Obviously there will always be occasions where issues arise but your generalisation of Swindon build quality being sh*t is way off the mark.

Maybe your right...

Maybe I imagined a rattling dash-board that Honda could not fix on two occasions.
Maybe I imagined after sales explaining there was a problem on the production line.
Maybe I imagined the parcel shelf that was almost impossible to remove.
Maybe I imagined having to replace a £400 sensor on car with less than 30K on it.
Maybe I imagined purchasing an aftermarket i=pod dock that did not work.

Maybe your right, I have f*ck all to say and are saying it too damn loud.

But it's nice to know someone is listening.

Edited by pacdes on Saturday 11th October 22:56

[Scousefella]

pacdes said:

Maybe I imagined after sales explaining their was a problem on the production line.

there

[pacdes]

bigkeeko said:

The last few pistonheads threads I`ve read tonight have descended to petty squabbling.

Sorry for having an opinion.

The car looks amazing, God bless all who drive in her!

[Mastodon2]

pacdes said:

Yes and maybe he won't care when he returns to his parked car to find it scratched by a youth who hates his 5 year old brother!
Somehow I don't think it will generate public adulation.

Who gives a fk?

[hondansx]

Sad to seeing it be toned down. As an NSX fan, the attention to detail and passion behind the car turned me into a real Honda fan. It looks like those qualities are slipping away.

Take the engine; Honda Type R cars are renowned for high rev limits. Why can can the Impreza EJ25 engine rev to 8,000rpm yet, years on, Honda can't match that, let alone push the envelope (like they should be doing)?

I'm wondering where Honda is going now... this car is based on an already old base model. They make nothing interesting and it seems they are going to let the hot hatch crown slip through their figures despite all of this embarrassing posturing and production delays (where they are clearly failing to walk the talk).

I really hope i'm wrong!