RE: New Civic Type R for Paris

[the-photographer]

urquattroGus said:

No weight figures, but needs more power surely? 280 is a bit old news? I expected just over 300 or more.

Maybe the way it delivers the power, and the handling will be what it's about.

Take the stock 1.6 TDI which has a strangely variable kerb weight of 1307 - 1416Kg

Then say look at a Golf MK7 1.6 TDI which is 1295Kg with driver and fuel.

Sooooo, you can expect to be disappointed with the official figures.

Edited by the-photographer on Tuesday 30th September 17:58

[Axionknight]

the-photographer said:

Take the stock 1.6 TDI with has a strangely variable kerb weight of 1307 - 1416Kg

Then say look at a Golf MK7 1.6 TDI which is 1295Kg with driver and fuel.

Sooooo, you can expect to be disappointed with the official figures.

1369kg kerb weight for the 1.8 petrol Civic, figures from Hondas own website:

http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/civic/compare-range/?p...

[loose cannon]

vernz said:

I'd definitely consider one....

We currently have a Megane 250 cup and personally I think a hot hatch should be a bit bling.

For me the Golf R is too understated and the 4 exhausts look out of place on that car in particular.

A friend of mine however thinks the complete opposite and would only buy an understated car, usually from the VW empire and would never even consider a Renault, VXR or Honda etc.

That's because he's not a petrolhead he is a badge snob just like about 80% of posters on this site !

[SidewaysSi]

I love it and I am the wrong side of 30. Yes, it is outlandish but I much prefer this to a Golf R. If it can drive at least as well as the VW then Honda will have my total respect. And having owned a Honda before, I do find the badge and the way they go about their engineering very appealing. As for the 5 vs 3 door argument, I am not really a fan of 3 doors at all in a hot hatch. These cars need to be practical otherwise I would just buy an Elise/GT86 etc.

The 997 GT3 RS Gen 2 was a bit OTT but I don't think it has done Porsche any harm. Or the car's residuals for that matter.

[kambites]

Axionknight said:

1369kg kerb weight for the 1.8 petrol Civic, figures from Hondas own website:

http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/civic/compare-range/?p...

Do Honda UK quote weights with or without a driver?

[AmitG]

I reckon they should do a Type-R version of the Civic Tourer.

That would be pretty cool.

[Piginapoke]

Well I quite like the regular Civic ( I know...) but that is just trying too hard....

[snoopy25]

I like this Type R a lot!

although it can do away with the stickers on it though!

[Imafreeman]

A turbo for goodness sake. Keep it NA or at least supercharge it and get it on a diet. Should be 1100kg not 1400kg

[Amirhussain]

I think it looks great.

[Mastodon2]

Given Kawasaki have announced a bike today with 270bhp at the back wheel, this suddenly doesn't seem such an outlandish power output for a hot hatch. It's still ugly though.

[Piers_K]

I spoke to one of the guys on the Honda stand at Carfest this year, 320 to 350bhp was his reckoning based on what he had been told..

[Ved]

I liked every part of it until I came to the +R button.

It's a Type-R, not a Type-r, waiting for a shift button to make it bigger. Honda, drop it, make it a Type-R from the moment you turn the key and if you're true to the roots of lightness then lose the extra focus group influenced quad pipes.

Edited by Ved on Tuesday 30th September 22:18

[Chuck328]

I like it, think it looks good in those colours. Bin the back pipes though. So many people here saying the same I wonder if Honda will ever get the hint....

FWD 280 bhp, traction control?

[The Vambo]

MustardCutter said:

I don't see a problem with the exhausts; I don't get the 'all PH'ers must hate multiple exhausts' bandwagon that rears it's head in pretty much any new car article and gets repeated over and over and over...

You should have seen the great DRL knicker pissing situation of 2012.

DRL= Chav repeated by the brainless again and again on every new car thread.

[DUMBO100]

I've got an FN2 and have had 5 years happy motoring and as much as like the madness, I can't see me buying one

[otolith]

xRIEx said:

Hot hatches have always appealed to the younger end of the market but been out of budget for most, nothing has changed - could a 17 year old have afforded an EP3 at £23,100 in 2001? National average salary was £16,337 then, now it's about £26,500, so (ignoring all other factors) a new Civic Type R is more affordable on average (141% of average wage then, 102%-113% now).

I bought a new EP3 in 2002 - if I remember rightly it cost me about £17,500 with AC.

[F1GTRUeno]

If this had been done by a tuning company in Europe or Japan then we'd all be laughing at how bad it is.

[Vyse]

Emissions say no.

Imafreeman said:

A turbo for goodness sake. Keep it NA or at least supercharge it and get it on a diet. Should be 1100kg not 1400kg

[hotchy]

Love it! mid 20's and i could buy it... but id rather a porsche etc for that money. Que loads of lease deals and plummiting values please.