Memo to motorcyclists...

[mikal83]

Ask any biker who has T'boned a car after it pulled out infront of them, or has had to drop the bike, what the first words that are out of the car drivers mouth......"sorry mate, didnt see you"!

[350zStee]

What type of road did this happen on? Was the biker filtering, or just riding behind you?

[xRIEx]

mikal83 said:

Ask any biker who has T'boned a car after it pulled out infront of them, or has had to drop the bike, what the first words that are out of the car drivers mouth......"sorry mate, didnt see you"!

I don't see that main beam brings anything to the part over dipped - if they don't see a dipped beam it's probably because they didn't look in the direction the rider was coming from in the first place; the muppet wouldn't see a full beam either.

[Deerfoot]

I see a chap on a huge BMW bike on my commute every morning. I can see him from around a mile away due to his 1, 000, 000 lumen (they might be more) led spot lamps he's got positioned by his feet.

I hope they dim once winter sets in.

[Tribal Chestnut]

matchmaker said:

Thanks to the bikers who responded. I didn't mean to tar you all with the same brush! But this morning I had this tt behind me with full beam on for 7 bloody miles!

There is clearly something wrong with him if he followed the same car for '7 bloody miles'. He's needs to hand in his licence and get in a car pronto.

[Fastdruid]

mikal83 said:

Ask any biker who has T'boned a car after it pulled out infront of them, or has had to drop the bike, what the first words that are out of the car drivers mouth......"sorry mate, didnt see you"!

Full beam doesn't make more people see you. It means people can't judge your speed and makes you out to be an inconsiderate a**hole.

It actually means as well that I see you *less* as I can't look in my mirrors at a blinding light so I don't. I've even been known to move my mirrors so I'm not being blinded.

I also will not move over, leave extra space like I would normally. I'm not going to purposely block or do anything dangerous but I'd normally leave nice gaps in traffic, move over to leave a nice gap if a bike is filtering etc but I'm not going out of my way to help someone who is that inconsiderate. I'm sure that it'll antagonise some drivers to do something dangerous as well, that's not right but you can expect it if you're being that much of a c**t.

[RemaL]

Agree you don't need to ride sing full beam But I have in the past changed my light bulbs on a Speed triple to Road legal unrated bulbs and the lights had been correctly set but found many car drivers would flash me. So sometimes there bikers may not have their full beams on just looks that way

just thinking of other possibility's.

I i'm on the bike or car I do dislike it when people cannot be arsed to dip their beams

[thatdude]

mikal83 said:

Ask any biker who has T'boned a car after it pulled out infront of them, or has had to drop the bike, what the first words that are out of the car drivers mouth......"sorry mate, didnt see you"!

I got "T-boned" 5 years ago.

I dont run my full, retina-burning beams because of it though, because it's the kind of thing a prick does and I aint a prick. at least, not like that.

[mikal83]

thatdude said:

I got "T-boned" 5 years ago.

I dont run my full, retina-burning beams because of it though, because it's the kind of thing a prick does and I aint a prick. at least, not like that.

same here, was on a bright blue and white FJ, DIPPED beam, white helmet, no one infront or behind me, yet.............. Oh and she got 3 points and a 120 quid fine. Bike was a right off and I was nearly killed!

[Motorrad]

I'd never noticed bikers doing this. Probably because I wear an illegally dark tinted visor.

[ferrariF50lover]

matchmaker said:

Thanks to the bikers who responded. I didn't mean to tar you all with the same brush! But this morning I had this tt behind me with full beam on for 7 bloody miles!

Indicate left, slow, pull left. If he doesn't get the message, slow more and wave him past. Costs you about 5 seconds (plus PH rant time) and he's gone. You can even give him a flash as he goes, it might just remind him that he's left his main beam on.

I've never seen this main-beam tomfoolery, not that I can recall anyway.

Simon.

[MC Bodge]

Many bikes(and cars) have incorrectly adjusted headlights ...and most bikes have never-adjusted-for-sag rear suspension, so many dipped beams are pointing skyward.

Mine are not pointing skyward.

I was riding my bike on the motorway yesterday when a bloke behind me almost burnt out my eyes, via
my mirrors, from about 400m behind with the blazing headlamps and 2 low mounted, but seemingly aimed upward, driving lamps on his adventure tourer bike of some description. Not pleasant. Thankfully he eventually overtook me ...and then slowed to the original speed, in front of me...

Edited by MC Bodge on Wednesday 1st October 12:17

[anonymous-user]

mikal83 said:

Ask any biker who has T'boned a car after it pulled out infront of them, or has had to drop the bike, what the first words that are out of the car drivers mouth......"sorry mate, didnt see you"!

Ask any biker who's fault any accident will be and see how many admit liability. Bunch of precious tts in the main.

[Joey Ramone]

matchmaker said:

Thanks to the bikers who responded. I didn't mean to tar you all with the same brush! But this morning I had this tt behind me with full beam on for 7 bloody miles!

I took my bike for a service at a Honda dealership and they gave me a courtesy bike to use overnight. CBF 600 if I remember correctly. Riding home that night, with my lights dipped, it became clear that they were angled wrongly (and soft rear suspension brought the nose up). So some poor bloke had me sat behind him for miles thinking that I was intentionally trying to blind him on my main beams when in fact I was doing nothing of the sort. He finally clued up when in frustration I did put my main beam on and almost burned his retina out. It was embarrassing because I could tell he was furious but there was absolutely sod all I could do about it.

[thatdude]

mikal83 said:

thatdude said:

I got "T-boned" 5 years ago.

I dont run my full, retina-burning beams because of it though, because it's the kind of thing a prick does and I aint a prick. at least, not like that.

same here, was on a bright blue and white FJ, DIPPED beam, white helmet, no one infront or behind me, yet.............. Oh and she got 3 points and a 120 quid fine. Bike was a right off and I was nearly killed!

I was on a bright yellow SV, lights on (dipped), it was morning and sunny.

I hurt my balls on the tank. The person whos fault it was, was actually deeply apologetic and helpful, admitted full liability to his insurance company and rang me a few times to check how I was doing.

I couldnt have been knocked off by a nicer bloke

Edited by thatdude on Wednesday 1st October 13:03

[matchmaker]

Tribal Chestnut said:

matchmaker said:

Thanks to the bikers who responded. I didn't mean to tar you all with the same brush! But this morning I had this tt behind me with full beam on for 7 bloody miles!

There is clearly something wrong with him if he followed the same car for '7 bloody miles'. He's needs to hand in his licence and get in a car pronto.

Single carriageway A road. The first few miles were plenty wide enough even for a car to have passed me, even with oncoming traffic. I was doing near enough 60mph most of the way.

[thecremeegg]

yonex said:

Ask any biker who's fault any accident will be and see how many admit liability. Bunch of precious tts in the main.

At the risk of turning this into a debate, you're right there.

[Hooli]

Dog Star said:

As a motorcyclist I can assure the OP that the vast majority of bikers feel the same way about the selfish fkwits in our midst that do this. Selfish nobheads.

+ many lots

[matchmaker]

Tribal Chestnut said:

matchmaker said:

Thanks to the bikers who responded. I didn't mean to tar you all with the same brush! But this morning I had this tt behind me with full beam on for 7 bloody miles!

There is clearly something wrong with him if he followed the same car for '7 bloody miles'. He's needs to hand in his licence and get in a car pronto.

Single carriageway A road. The first few miles were plenty wide enough even for a car to have passed me, even with oncoming traffic. I was doing near enough 60mph most of the way.

[thatdude]

thecremeegg said:

yonex said:

Ask any biker who's fault any accident will be and see how many admit liability. Bunch of precious tts in the main.

At the risk of turning this into a debate, you're right there.

Like any minority group, motorcyclists do. It's like horse riders, and cyclists. never mind their own actions, no no no everyone else should be adjusting to them.

Driving a car was a real eye-opener to me as to how little you can see in a car, with all those pillas and blind spots. Also, when I'm stuck in traffic in my car I check my mirrors frequently, but between checks a motorcyclist can seem to suddenly appear. Soemthing I am aware of now.

I would like to say that I am grateful to other road users who do make a little bit of room when I'm filtering. It's always amusing when a person in a small car in lane 2 dosnt move over but the lorry in lane 1 does.