RE: Audi RS6: PH Fleet

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gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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suffolk009 said:
Only people I personally know who've run these cars all do so via their business on lease/rental agreements. I've never known anybody pay their own actual money to buy one.
They may lease them, but doubt they do it as a company car.

It will cost you £1200 in BIK tax and that isn't even the highest tax bracket, where as you can lease one personally for less than that, so makes no sense doing it that way.
Unless you are doing mega miles in it of course, but still doesn't make sense, you would be better to just take a bigger wage and do it personally.

Must say, everyone I have known with an RS6 have all had them as personal cars, and thinking about it they all had something else as well.

Wills2

22,832 posts

175 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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gizlaroc said:
They may lease them, but doubt they do it as a company car.

It will cost you £1200 in BIK tax and that isn't even the highest tax bracket, where as you can lease one personally for less than that, so makes no sense doing it that way.
Unless you are doing mega miles in it of course, but still doesn't make sense, you would be better to just take a bigger wage and do it personally.

Must say, everyone I have known with an RS6 have all had them as personal cars, and thinking about it they all had something else as well.
I think your numbers are a bit high a base RS6 would be £5326 BIK annually at 20% rate or £10,653 at 40%.

drybeer

957 posts

225 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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AxelS said:
On the whole iPhone 5 matter - that's really Apples choice and not Audis since Apple doesn't support the same audio controls API on the Lightning cables that the previous cables up to iPhone 4 had. So you can charge and you can BT-stream your music but there is no longer a point in the "music interface" of old for integrated control from the built in satnav
Not so - I use the official lightning port adapter for the AMI for my iPhone 5. It supports full control of the audio stored on the iPhone through the MMI and in addition charges the device. It's a shame someone at the Audi demo centre is not in regular contact with Chris so that they can react to his comments, as the car should come from brand new with the correct cable for the customer's device.

drybeer

957 posts

225 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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Wills2 said:
I think your numbers are a bit high a base RS6 would be £5326 BIK annually at 20% rate or £10,653 at 40%.
Who on earth paying the 20% tax rate would be having an RS6 company car?!?

No one!

PS for a 40% tax payer, with a £99k RS6 the liability would be between £1150 and £1225 pcm, hence why this is a car you buy privately.

RSbandit

2,604 posts

132 months

Wednesday 1st October 2014
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lamboman100 said:
£75 - 100k for a dull anonymous barge is madness.
Jeez have u even seen one of these in the flesh? Dull and anon are the last words I'd use to describe it , it's not the super sleek coupe or sportscar design but these have serious presence no way anyone would think it was a normal A6

WokkaWokka

699 posts

139 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Interesting what people say about company car tax. I just wanted to work mine out and it turns out a Veyron would cost 212k per annum for someone in the 50% tax bracket.

Back on the RS6 though. I think they are magnificent, bar the extra £100 for the heated seats. I struggle to see how they are subtle though! They look monstrous! Then again it's one of my favourite cars. I'd love one next but I fear it might have to be an RS4....that's a first world problem if ever I typed one.

Edited by WokkaWokka on Thursday 2nd October 01:03

F1GTRUeno

6,354 posts

218 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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lamboman100 said:
£75 - 100k for a dull anonymous barge is madness.
What a nonsense statement.

405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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The price is ludicrous - beyond ludicrous in-fact - fortunately, 99% of the people who'd appreciate what it does (rather than just what it represents as a trophy item) will be getting one once that price has been DEVASTATED by depreciation (the options will pretty much lose their value overnight).

There is no better way to lose money than to overspec a German luxowagon - coke and casinos are cheap by comparison ;0

franki68

10,395 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Without a shadow of a doubt the best of its type ,tested it and various amgs,panamera, cayenne turbo, m5
And it's the one to have , it's just so useable and was especially impressed with the ride comfort on the non air suspension model , Chris's original review mentioned it but other journos criticised it , but Chris was right , it rode beautifully on some really nasty roads near me .
God it's quick as well , laugh out loud quick The way it gets it's power down is a different league to the amgs and m5


RGambo

849 posts

169 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I Just use the audi mmi cable for an i phone 4 with a standard apple 4 to 5 adaptor.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Wills2 said:
I think your numbers are a bit high a base RS6 would be £5326 BIK annually at 20% rate or £10,653 at 40%.
So someone in the 20% bracket would be bought an RS6 compnay car?
A company paying someone £3300 a month isn't going to offer a lease car for £1100, or 1/3 of their salary, imho.

£10650 is with no fuel allowance, there is no way someone taking that as a company car would not have the fuel allowance for £200 a month, even doing 12k miles a year and managing 25mpg it makes sense to let the company supply fuel.


gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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franki68 said:
Without a shadow of a doubt the best of its type ,tested it and various amgs,panamera, cayenne turbo, m5
And it's the one to have , it's just so useable and was especially impressed with the ride comfort on the non air suspension model , Chris's original review mentioned it but other journos criticised it , but Chris was right , it rode beautifully on some really nasty roads near me .
God it's quick as well , laugh out loud quick The way it gets it's power down is a different league to the amgs and m5
Even the regular model in quattro guise is better than the BMW and the Merc imho.
And I have owned the other two. Just never see a nicely specced large engined Quattro that doesn't have black interior or isn't nearly list at a year old.

Shurv

956 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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F1GTRUeno said:
What a nonsense statement.
Sorry, I agree, it is utter madness to spend so much on something that looks like a 2.0 TDi repmobile.£100k for an Audi, crazy, they're not that good.

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Complete rockets.

In the wet, an M5 wouldn't see which way this thing went, they are ballistic.

RSbandit

2,604 posts

132 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Shurv said:
Sorry, I agree, it is utter madness to spend so much on something that looks like a 2.0 TDi repmobile.£100k for an Audi, crazy, they're not that good.
I take it you havent seen one in the flesh either, 100% theres no confusing it with a tdi !
Fair enough Harris went nuts with the spec on this one, 6k for a stereo is insane the Bose speakers are more than adequate and ceramics are a very extravagant option as well...without this stuff your looking at 85k and with dealer discount you can get to 74-75k...bit of a difference

audidoody

8,597 posts

256 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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With real-world speeds , road surfaces and traffic conditions, isn't having one of these a bit like having £65,000 in the bank you can never spend? A 2.0TDI Avant would probably beat it to the SoFrance with fewer fuel stops.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Shurv said:
Sorry, I agree, it is utter madness to spend so much on something that looks like a 2.0 TDi repmobile.£100k for an Audi, crazy, they're not that good.
But many people out there don't buy a car to get everyone else to look at them, some people have some decorum.

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Shurv said:
F1GTRUeno said:
What a nonsense statement.
Sorry, I agree, it is utter madness to spend so much on something that looks like a 2.0 TDi repmobile.£100k for an Audi, crazy, they're not that good.
Has it ever occurred to you that people might want something with high performance sports car speed with practicality in a body which doesn't shout "hey look at me!"?

I for one applaud cars like these.

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Schermerhorn said:
Complete rockets.

In the wet, an M5 wouldn't see which way this thing went, they are ballistic.
Not 100% sure about that; the Audi may be faster but to say it wouldn't see which way it went....hmmmm. Do please remember that around a wet top gear track the Audi RS5 with its amazing quattro system and all-weather usability was indeed slower than the dangerous, slow RWD M3.....

scherzkeks

4,460 posts

134 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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E65Ross said:
Do please remember that around a wet top gear track the Audi RS5 with its amazing quattro system and all-weather usability was indeed slower than the dangerous, slow RWD M3.....
It is also 370 lbs. heavier and with AWD DT losses, no more powerful.