which ebay sniper

[Mr Gear]

hornetrider said:

And you believe that you are the arbiter of the value of everything? Interesting.

I know precisely what it's worth to me.

[Mr Gear]

feef said:

and if you'd sniped, you may have got it for even less.

Our not got it at all. Nice one.

[hornetrider]

Mr Gear said:

I know precisely what it's worth to me.

That's not what you said. Just because someone has more money than you and values it higher, does not mean they have overpaid.

[Fastra]

I don't use a sniper and haven't for done for the 12 years I've used ebay.

I always have a price I want to pay and bid within the last few seconds.
Bidding earlier just gives people a chance to come back and increase the price.
This method has meant I've won plenty of auctions at what I thought were very decent prices.
Sure every now and again I'll get beat by someone but that's because, funnily enough,they've bid more than I wanted to!

[feef]

Mr Gear said:

feef said:

and if you'd sniped, you may have got it for even less.

Our not got it at all. Nice one.

Then it went for more than I was willing to pay. So it is a nice one.

[blueg33]

Fastra said:

I don't use a sniper and haven't for done for the 12 years I've used ebay.

I always have a price I want to pay and bid within the last few seconds.
Bidding earlier just gives people a chance to come back and increase the price.
This method has meant I've won plenty of auctions at what I thought were very decent prices.
Sure every now and again I'll get beat by someone but that's because, funnily enough,they've bid more than I wanted to!

You have used a sniper - bidding yourself in the last few seconds is just manual sniping

A sniper just makes that last second bid for you so that you can be in bed, at work, driving etc instead of sitting infront pf the computer trigger finger ready. It also takes out the risk that you may lose your wifi connection at a critical moment

[Mr Gear]

feef said:

Then it went for more than I was willing to pay. So it is a nice one.

Ha ha, just bid what you are willing to pay in the first place!

[Mr Gear]

hornetrider said:

That's not what you said. Just because someone has more money than you and values it higher, does not mean they have overpaid.

So you can't afford it then? That's a different problem altogether.

[hornetrider]

I'm sorry you can't understand what is being said by many here.

[Mr Gear]

hornetrider said:

I'm sorry you can't understand what is being said by many here.

No, neither can I. It seems snipers are popular amongst people who don't know how eBay works... that's the gist of this thread anyway.

[blueg33]

Mr Gear said:

hornetrider said:

I'm sorry you can't understand what is being said by many here.

No, neither can I. It seems snipers are popular amongst people who don't know how eBay works... that's the gist of this thread anyway.

What?

[surveyor]

Mr Gear said:

hornetrider said:

I'm sorry you can't understand what is being said by many here.

No, neither can I. It seems snipers are popular amongst people who don't know how eBay works... that's the gist of this thread anyway.

I fear dementia.

[hornetrider]

blueg33 said:

What?

These threads do pop up from time to time and they always amuse me. Generally the naysayers simply refuse to be educated, or be seen to be educated, as they can't lose face to someone anonymous on the internet. I do feel for him because he just can't get his head around the concept. Or so it seems. Oh well.

[Mr Gear]

hornetrider said:

These threads do pop up from time to time and they always amuse me. Generally the naysayers simply refuse to be educated, or be seen to be educated, as they can't lose face to someone anonymous on the internet. I do feel for him because he just can't get his head around the concept. Or so it seems. Oh well.

The 'concept' is irrelevant and pointless if you use eBay as intended and bid what you are prepared to pay.

If you think sniping works for you, good luck! And prepare to be disappointed.

[SpeckledJim]

Mr Gear said:

hornetrider said:

These threads do pop up from time to time and they always amuse me. Generally the naysayers simply refuse to be educated, or be seen to be educated, as they can't lose face to someone anonymous on the internet. I do feel for him because he just can't get his head around the concept. Or so it seems. Oh well.

The 'concept' is irrelevant and pointless if you use eBay as intended and bid what you are prepared to pay.

If you think sniping works for you, good luck! And prepare to be disappointed.

Honestly, you haven't understood it.

Bid your maximum, but bid it at the last second. So neither your competitors nor the seller gets the chance to arrange a higher bid.

Does that honestly not make sense to you?

[hornetrider]

SpeckledJim said:

Honestly, you haven't understood it.

Bid your maximum, but bid it at the last second. So neither your competitors nor the seller gets the chance to arrange a higher bid.

Does that honestly not make sense to you?

I'd give it up as a bad job mate. He'll be in for the last word now.

[Greg_D]

Rocketsocks said:

The OP had suggested that he lost out on an ebay auction because someone else was using sniper software. He didn't lose out because of that of course, he lost out because another bidder bid more! It is often misunderstood by ebay bidders that it isn't the last bid that wins, it's the highest one.

ok, so for clarity, who would win in the following

item is at £10, the person in the lead who bid 'the old fashioned way' has set a max @ £20
i snipe with a max @ £15

Who wins, and at how much?

[Mr Gear]

Greg_D said:

ok, so for clarity, who would win in the following

item is at £10, the person in the lead who bid 'the old fashioned way' has set a max @ £20
i snipe with a max @ £15

Who wins, and at how much?

I would win, and I'd pay just over £15.

Which is why bid sniping is the height of stupidity.

If it sold for £21 I wouldn't care, because it was more than i was prepared to bid anyway.

[feef]

Mr Gear said:

Ha ha, just bid what you are willing to pay in the first place!

Regular auction:

Bid what you're willing to pay, you get the current highest bid...
others see they've been outbid and so bid higher..

as you approach the end of the auction, you're outbid or approaching your limit.


Sniping :

Bid what you're willing to pay, Nothing happens until the last 6 seconds. a few others have bid but it's nowhere near as high had you placed your own highest bid a few days before. 6 seconds before it closes, your bid is placed, you win the auction way below what you were willing to pay.


note, in both cases, you bid only what you're willing to pay, but one gives you a better chance of winning, and at a lower winning price.

simple

[feef]

Mr Gear said:

I would win, and I'd pay just over £15.

Which is why bid sniping is the height of stupidity.

If it sold for £21 I wouldn't care, because it was more than i was prepared to bid anyway.

In that scenario, a lost auction is a lost auction in either method.

it's winning auctions that Sniping helps.

I'm really not bothered which is the best method at losing an auction.