270 horsepower from a 1.6 litre engine?

[liner33]

xRIEx said:

sparkyhx said:

ORD said:

liner33 said:

Dont believe that economy for a moment.

+1. That's because it's a fragrant lie. Unless the petrol is supplemented by magic beans, no car producing that torque will burn so little fuel.

Not saying his figures are accurate, but you just drive off boost then its a 2ltr car. I never measured my 200sx cos its was pootled between hoons or track days so never got a real measure, but it was probably over 35. But high 40's that ain't

Are there many 10 year old 2 litre NA petrols that will get 30mpg around town? I just picked a 2004 Focus to look at, official average is 39.8mpg, Honest John 'real' average is 34.1. That poster must really pussy around in his 300+hp turbo to get those sorts of figures.

Its a really inefficent 2 litre with a turbo blocking the exhaust gases and a long drawn out intake , you cant compare it to a n/a but if you did I wouldnt think it would get close anyhow.

Driving my Evo 6 off boost I could get close to 28mpg on a run.

I dont get high 40's on a run out of my 1.4 TSI

[liner33]

ORD said:

xRIEx said:

Because it smells so nice?

I did think "Did I just write fragrant, rather than flagrant?", but I gave myself too much credit and didn't even bother to check.

I thought you were suggesting something smells , in which case both words fit just fine

[xRIEx]

liner33 said:

xRIEx said:

sparkyhx said:

ORD said:

liner33 said:

Dont believe that economy for a moment.

+1. That's because it's a fragrant lie. Unless the petrol is supplemented by magic beans, no car producing that torque will burn so little fuel.

Not saying his figures are accurate, but you just drive off boost then its a 2ltr car. I never measured my 200sx cos its was pootled between hoons or track days so never got a real measure, but it was probably over 35. But high 40's that ain't

Are there many 10 year old 2 litre NA petrols that will get 30mpg around town? I just picked a 2004 Focus to look at, official average is 39.8mpg, Honest John 'real' average is 34.1. That poster must really pussy around in his 300+hp turbo to get those sorts of figures.

Its a really inefficent 2 litre with a turbo blocking the exhaust gases and a long drawn out intake , you cant compare it to a n/a but if you did I wouldnt think it would get close anyhow.

Driving my Evo 6 off boost I could get close to 28mpg on a run.

I dont get high 40's on a run out of my 1.4 TSI

That's what I mean, I would expect a turbo to show worse figures than an NA, as a response to:

sparkyhx said:

but you just drive off boost then its a 2ltr car.

[scherzkeks]

xRIEx said:

What, one man designs the whole engine? No team of designers contributing their from individual areas of expertise and highlighting potential problems that one person on their own may miss? No wonder it's so unreliable.

1. He heads the team and was brought to VAG specifically to work on a high-output version of the engine in question.

2. Provide evidence that it is "unreliable." In the post I quoted, the key word in context was "guess."

[crosseyedlion]

sparkyhx said:

crosseyedlion said:

No drop in reliability on UK fuel, in UK environmental conditions, with very lenient emissions regulations, NVH & power delivery requirments etc.... Although it clearly holds together, and I would tune one the same if it was mine, a large manufacturer simply couldn't get away with it.

Plenty of examples running this stage 1 tune (280 bhp) for over 100000 miles. and some I know over 200k miles. I'm pretty sure some still pass emissions tests but I couldn't swear by that.

I have no doubt in your claims, but as I said - a large manufacturer simply couldn't get away with that for many reasons your vehicle wouldn't be affected by.

Passing emissions tests at an MOT is a bit different to meeting EURO 6.

[Clivey]

crosseyedlion said:

I have no doubt in your claims, but as I said - a large manufacturer simply couldn't get away with that for many reasons your vehicle wouldn't be affected by.

Passing emissions tests at an MOT is a bit different to meeting EURO 6.

Indeed. Plus, tolerances have to be made for numpties owning and driving them.