RE: Tesla launches 691hp Model S P85D
Discussion
Picture the scene then......
You and "Barry Larger" are sat at the traffic lights on the ringroad one Saturday morning. Barry has spent pretty much the whole of the last year fettling his beloved Type R Honda. It's dripping in some red hot parts straight outta Max Power magazine, the bass is thumping and he's just seen your rather nice looking Tesla but is oblivious to the generic sleeper you have.
Boom, the lights change....Barry's Type R is shaking like a flatpack wardrobe as it dashes off the line, but he looks right to see you in the Tesla accelerating like mother nature is assisting with some lateral gravity.
And that's Barry, let alone Blackadder!
You and "Barry Larger" are sat at the traffic lights on the ringroad one Saturday morning. Barry has spent pretty much the whole of the last year fettling his beloved Type R Honda. It's dripping in some red hot parts straight outta Max Power magazine, the bass is thumping and he's just seen your rather nice looking Tesla but is oblivious to the generic sleeper you have.
Boom, the lights change....Barry's Type R is shaking like a flatpack wardrobe as it dashes off the line, but he looks right to see you in the Tesla accelerating like mother nature is assisting with some lateral gravity.
And that's Barry, let alone Blackadder!
Two of my colleagues have the Model S as a company car, and I was seriously joining them - that case just got stronger!
The CEO kindly lent me his last week for the night to give it a go - P85+ black on black with the 21inch grey wheels, and I think he ticked every option including carbon inserts on dash, etc.
I've previously owned a v8 Esprit and a 997C2S, and I can honestly say it was quicker (0-60 in 4.2) than both of those.
I think this news of 4 wheel drive and now 3.2 secs has just cemented my decision.
I know just need to do some fancy man maths and convince the Mrs that it's a good idea!
Not a great picture, but on my drive (next to the Mrs A-Class on the drive!)
The CEO kindly lent me his last week for the night to give it a go - P85+ black on black with the 21inch grey wheels, and I think he ticked every option including carbon inserts on dash, etc.
I've previously owned a v8 Esprit and a 997C2S, and I can honestly say it was quicker (0-60 in 4.2) than both of those.
I think this news of 4 wheel drive and now 3.2 secs has just cemented my decision.
I know just need to do some fancy man maths and convince the Mrs that it's a good idea!
Not a great picture, but on my drive (next to the Mrs A-Class on the drive!)
Wow! Looks like ze germans need to start playing the catch-up game now. As soon as Teslas infrastructure gets set up and running on the continent the big boys should start putting on a couple of warm jackets, cause its definately about to get a bit colder. And that has nothing to do with all this co2 malarky.
Just a question for the co2 camp here....how much (percentage wise) of all greenhause gases in our atmosphere does CO2 make up?
Just a question for the co2 camp here....how much (percentage wise) of all greenhause gases in our atmosphere does CO2 make up?
flatso said:
Wow! Looks like ze germans need to start playing the catch-up game now. As soon as Teslas infrastructure gets set up and running on the continent the big boys should start putting on a couple of warm jackets, cause its definately about to get a bit colder. And that has nothing to do with all this co2 malarky.
Just a question for the co2 camp here....how much (percentage wise) of all greenhause gases in our atmosphere does CO2 make up?
Looks like the infrastructure is pretty up and running already:Just a question for the co2 camp here....how much (percentage wise) of all greenhause gases in our atmosphere does CO2 make up?
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Driving to the in-laws in Italy at £0 fuel cost would be a pleasant novelty.
Tesla have given the big boys a huge kick up the arse by producing a product so good right off the bat. I'm convinced the reason we have not seen ANYTHING in response to the Tesla from the big boys is that what they had in development was simply crap in comparison. They've all gone back to the drawing board! It'll be a good few years yet before a credible alternative (ie ground up and not just a conventional platform with electric gubbins shoehorned in) appears from another manufacturer.
underphil said:
by the time they release a smaller hatchback sized model which has a bit less performance better range and is a whole lot cheaper they'll be a pretty solid infrastructure - looks like they're onto a winner
The next model scheduled for release is the Model X crossover. After that they're expected to ramp up production for a lower priced model whose R&D costs will have been paid for by the Model S and Model X. (Just like the R&D costs for the Model S were paid for by the revenue from the Tesla Roadster and the Model X's costs were paid for by the Model S - good business planning.)The Internal Combustion engine is in its death throes as the main method of propulsion, in 2100 if anyone ever reads this post they will agree.
I have a 350Z, I do love it, its quite good fun but it converts money into sound, heat, and a bit of forward motion.
This is the EV after what, ten years, if that of active development, imagine what they will be able to do in say thirty, acceleration will be limited so as to not inflict pain or detach retinas.
I do like the look of future for er, petrolheads, your Golf R is going to look so slow, very soon.
I have a 350Z, I do love it, its quite good fun but it converts money into sound, heat, and a bit of forward motion.
This is the EV after what, ten years, if that of active development, imagine what they will be able to do in say thirty, acceleration will be limited so as to not inflict pain or detach retinas.
I do like the look of future for er, petrolheads, your Golf R is going to look so slow, very soon.
J4CKO said:
The Internal Combustion engine is in its death throes as the main method of propulsion, in 2100 if anyone ever reads this post they will agree.
I have a 350Z, I do love it, its quite good fun but it converts money into sound, heat, and a bit of forward motion.
This is the EV after what, ten years, if that of active development, imagine what they will be able to do in say thirty, acceleration will be limited so as to not inflict pain or detach retinas.
I do like the look of future for er, petrolheads, your Golf R is going to look so slow, very soon.
I think your timescale is more realistic than many I have seen - the internal combustion engine will hang on for a good while yet. Having said that, after test driving a Model S a few weeks ago I don't think I will buy another ICE car.I have a 350Z, I do love it, its quite good fun but it converts money into sound, heat, and a bit of forward motion.
This is the EV after what, ten years, if that of active development, imagine what they will be able to do in say thirty, acceleration will be limited so as to not inflict pain or detach retinas.
I do like the look of future for er, petrolheads, your Golf R is going to look so slow, very soon.
Traffic is going to become very interesting when the majority of cars can do 0-60 in 4s or less - self driving cars may be necessary just to keep adequate separation and decent flow.
I think the ICE will start to lose its complete stranglehold on the market in the next few years, but it's going to be many decades before it completely vanishes from our roads (if it ever does). I think we'll see pure EVs taking significant market share in the next ten to twenty years, probably spearheaded by the Tesla Model-3.
I could easily see the Model-3 alone getting 1% of the total UK private passenger vehicle market.
I could easily see the Model-3 alone getting 1% of the total UK private passenger vehicle market.
Edited by kambites on Friday 10th October 20:42
MikeGalos said:
Sounds like all the people complaining about "real CO2 emissions" should actually be complaining not about the Tesla but about the lack of upgrading the UK's power grid to less damaging electric production. Where I live over 90% of our electricity is from hydroelectric with no CO2 emissions and the rest have been modernized to drop CO2 until they're phased out.
Yes. Tidal seems the logical electricity solution. MikeGalos said:
Sounds like all the people complaining about "real CO2 emissions" should actually be complaining not about the Tesla but about the lack of upgrading the UK's power grid to less damaging electric production. Where I live over 90% of our electricity is from hydroelectric with no CO2 emissions and the rest have been modernized to drop CO2 until they're phased out.
And when everyone drives electric cars you'll need 3 times as many rivers just to charge them - good luck with that.Interesting tech, but would I pay nearly 100k for one? Not a chance. I saw a white one in the Netherlands recently, and the panel gaps were hideous - horribly uneven, and really detracted from the look of the car. Talking to one of our Norwegian customers that had one as a daily, the story isn't much better on the inside. So a typical American car really.
Think I'd wait for a manufacturer with some concept of quality control makes one. For the money I'd take an i8 every day of the week. Or a car with a proper engine :-)
Think I'd wait for a manufacturer with some concept of quality control makes one. For the money I'd take an i8 every day of the week. Or a car with a proper engine :-)
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