New car replacing my RS6

New car replacing my RS6

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longintheleg

551 posts

144 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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Everyone has an opinion.

johnnyBv8

2,417 posts

192 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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longintheleg said:
Everyone has an opinion.
Everyone does. But not everyone is an internet bully/bore.

birdcage

2,840 posts

206 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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Chap of previously questionable integrity swaps decent car for more mundane car and it's runs to 6 pages

I believe him, why would you lie about the car. I think the digs are attempts to create a really good thread but this ones a damp squib sadly..

Wills2

22,893 posts

176 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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nottyash said:
So when you put your foot down hard, does it kick the gears down and put the revs up pointlessly?
I'm not a huge fan of the 35d, (I have one) but it does rev out quite nicely and the power (which is what counts after all) is at the top end (I use the term loosely)

Before anyone flames me I've had 3 x M3 so understand the benefits/joys of high revving N/a engines.


nottyash

4,670 posts

196 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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Fox- said:
nottyash said:
So when you put your foot down hard, does it kick the gears down and put the revs up pointlessly?
Of course it kicks down, it's an auto and you've just stabbed the throttle hard. But it's not 'pointless'. If you want to retain manual control you can and it won't shift up unless you hit the limiter.
Your missing the point. The diesel in the 350bhp Evolve mapped 335d I had kicked down, putting the revs over 3k, which is fine for a petrol, but with a redline around 4500rpm you have little power band. In a diesel where peak torque is below 2k rpm, you want to be able to select a gear where your at 2k rpm and put your foot down, so in this sense it is pointless. Its a crap gearbox for a diesel engine.

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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Wills2 said:
I'm not a huge fan of the 35d, (I have one) but it does rev out quite nicely and the power (which is what counts after all) is at the top end (I use the term loosely)

Before anyone flames me I've had 3 x M3 so understand the benefits/joys of high revving N/a engines.

So far I've only max out the revs once - test drive - however as per previous pic as you can see c21mpg over what 60 miles ...so am enjoying it wink.

nottyash

4,670 posts

196 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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I have actually since found out you can map the gearbox to stop it kicking down and give you more control. ( talking about the old 6 speed version I had)

lord trumpton

7,408 posts

127 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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nottyash said:
I have actually since found out you can map the gearbox to stop it kicking down and give you more control. ( talking about the old 6 speed version I had)
Really? Who can do this?

Ive got the zf6 in our BMW and would love to update the software

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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nottyash said:
Your missing the point. The diesel in the 350bhp Evolve mapped 335d I had kicked down, putting the revs over 3k, which is fine for a petrol, but with a redline around 4500rpm you have little power band. In a diesel where peak torque is below 2k rpm, you want to be able to select a gear where your at 2k rpm and put your foot down, so in this sense it is pointless. Its a crap gearbox for a diesel engine.
Having owned the 6 speed box for 60k miles and now the 8 speed its worlds apart literally its superb & doesn't do what you had and I had in the 6 speed unless you mash throttle into the carpet So far and its only 60 miles it appears that up to say 80% maybe 85% throttle depression it holds the gear and you can build that to foot into carpet without kickdown.

Try one

ecain63

10,588 posts

176 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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If i were WB i'd not be bothering with PH now. Unless he's doing this for kicks. In which case he's a very strange beast indeed.

nottyash

4,670 posts

196 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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lord trumpton said:
nottyash said:
I have actually since found out you can map the gearbox to stop it kicking down and give you more control. ( talking about the old 6 speed version I had)
Really? Who can do this?

Ive got the zf6 in our BMW and would love to update the software
Duncan at Race Dynamix told me while he was mapping my Subaru.

Wills2

22,893 posts

176 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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nottyash said:
Fox- said:
nottyash said:
So when you put your foot down hard, does it kick the gears down and put the revs up pointlessly?
Of course it kicks down, it's an auto and you've just stabbed the throttle hard. But it's not 'pointless'. If you want to retain manual control you can and it won't shift up unless you hit the limiter.
Your missing the point. The diesel in the 350bhp Evolve mapped 335d I had kicked down, putting the revs over 3k, which is fine for a petrol, but with a redline around 4500rpm you have little power band. In a diesel where peak torque is below 2k rpm, you want to be able to select a gear where your at 2k rpm and put your foot down, so in this sense it is pointless. Its a crap gearbox for a diesel engine.
I think you're missing the point, kick down in my m3 put the engine at over 6k RPM (where the power is) kick down in my F31 335d puts me in that engines power band (over 3k) power is what counts.

Do you think your car would accelerate faster at 2k in 5th than it would at 3k in 3rd?


Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 13th October 2014
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Wills2 said:
I think you're missing the point, kick down in my m3 put the engine at over 6k RPM (where the power is) kick down in my F31 335d puts me in that engines power band (over 3k) power is what counts.

Do you think your car would accelerate faster at 2k in 5th than it would at 3k in 3rd?

And on the x35d they produce the power all the way to the red line - it revs to 5,250rpm red line 5,500 rpm limiter in a diesel....

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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ecain63 said:
If i were WB i'd not be bothering with PH now. Unless he's doing this for kicks. In which case he's a very strange beast indeed.
In one.

Welshbeef

Original Poster:

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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garyhun said:
In one.
Given this is THE car enthusiast site and I've been on it for over 7 years I'll not be flouncing. Also it is only 10 individuals give or take.

russy01

4,693 posts

182 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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russy01 said:
Bung it on a USB stick and play it. Then when its playing push your iDrive over to the right and select Import music. It will then save everything on the device.
No it won't - on his car you can only import music from USB using the USB port in the glovebox.

Though frankly I don't bother, the USB capacity is only 12gb and it seems to classify each attempt at copying things from a USB stick as an 'Album' and puts them into separate folders. It's clearly designed to rip CD's really, the USB import seems like an afterthought.

Instead I just leave a 32Gb USB stick in the armrest and it works wonderfully.
Sorry my bad. Assumed it was the same as my M135i.

I find the USB functionality and ripping perfectly well.

It all depends how you manage your music and what you listen too - I often download and upload compilations of a wide variation of genres so saving these as different albums makes perfect sense. I gave up with full albums for most artists quite a long time ago as I was sick of listening to crap album fillers every time my car was on random!

CD's rip well, but being 2014 its not very often I have one to stick in the car nowadays!

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Welshbeef said:
garyhun said:
In one.
Given this is THE car enthusiast site and I've been on it for over 7 years I'll not be flouncing. Also it is only 10 individuals give or take.
Well I fail to see how a diesel BMW fits into that! Anyway, you are an attention we with a foot in the fantasy world - you know it, we know it tongue out

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 14th October 08:36

Welshbeef

Original Poster:

49,633 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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doogz said:
Every car makes power all the way to the redline.

Peak power though, isn't that at less than 4500?
http://www.superchips.co.uk/curves/BMWF13640dEPC.pdf

309bhp peak And it drops to I'm guessing 290bhp on the redline so 6% down.

2manycars

2,742 posts

179 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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garyhun said:
Well I fail to see how a diesel BMW fits into that! Anyway, you are an attention we with a foot in the fantasy world - you know it, we know it tongue out

Edited by garyhun on Tuesday 14th October 08:36
Bloody hell calm down, so he's twisted a tale here and there. Who hasn't in their life.

And a new BMW diesel can be as much fun as an older M3, so for him it fits in perfectly with this forum.

Nice BMW Z4 btw Gary, love that in white, one of the only cars that i like in that colour.

Fastdruid

8,651 posts

153 months

Tuesday 14th October 2014
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Welshbeef said:
See my garage - I'm expecting it to be worth at most £8k in 6 years with c13k pa miles - I was given a PCP GFV of c£8k after c4 years which may or may not have equity.
Rather too high IMO after 6 years I'd think 5-6k at most. Consider that a 2005 535d is worth 6k (trade in value) now with ~10k pa (100k) and you'll be talking about a year older car with 140k.