Sticking with a fun petrol, despite mega miles. Who's with me?
Discussion
Diderot said:
if anyone doubts what a diesel can do, then they should drive a x3d or x40d and have an open mind.
I don`t doubt that diesel cars are now credible performers my friend. I had an A6 3.0 and with 230hp on tap it felt lively enough, it just didn`t float my boat. I have a work colleague with a 535d M sport saloon but he knows and I know that my petrol Jeep would jump all over it in a drag race but he needs the economy and I don`t. Diesel has come on leaps and bounds but let`s compare his twin turbo 535d with a 3.0 twin turbo from the early 90s. Say, a Supra. Nearly 20 years on and the petrol equivalent is still MUCH quicker for the same size engine and amount of turbos. A few mods and the Supra is silly.
Big petrol engines are dying and this make me a bit sad. The same amount of technology isn`t being applied to them as diesels and like the Concorde they`re going to be a dinosaur of the past, a threat to the ozone and killing the planet etc. To some, my SRT8 Jeep is a source of amusement, almost like I have blundered and bought the wrong thing continually answering mpg questions. Six point what litre? How much road tax Ha ha etc.
I`ve maybe grown up in the wrong era. Mad Max, Dukes of Hazard etc.
Diesels are gaining ground and I will, in time, acquiesce.
Edited by bigkeeko on Monday 13th October 00:18
Edited by bigkeeko on Monday 13th October 00:32
)I've done 96k miles in the lightly modified MPS in the last 3.5 years, last year was just over 30k miles and my P11d had an annual fuel spend of £7341, which is hurting a bit as my tax code is a bit low. It worked out that each mile cost 24p just in fuel.
It's new car time for me and i'll likely be moving to the dark side for the daily grind, will keep the fun petrol so if i do feel like i want to kill myself driving the derv i can hop back in the petrol.
It's new car time for me and i'll likely be moving to the dark side for the daily grind, will keep the fun petrol so if i do feel like i want to kill myself driving the derv i can hop back in the petrol.
TroubledSoul said:
Well.... Drove home from Edinburgh today and had a great blast along the A68 and A697 before reaching the monotony of the A1.
Would I go back to the 535d for that journey, being that the boring motorway leg was the longer part of the journey?
Not a chance.
A68 in an Impreza? Last time I was up there I was in a poxy Audi 80tdi that was overheating.Would I go back to the 535d for that journey, being that the boring motorway leg was the longer part of the journey?
Not a chance.
I envy you
Got a 12 month old M135i with 21,000 miles on.
I have a pretty awesome commute through the Yorkshire dales.
Life's too short to drive a crap car
Man maths works in favour too, I do a fair amount of business miles (14k per year) and get 25p per mile and the petrol costs on average 17p per mile. So with the tax rebate and margin in the milage rate I make around £2k a year driving it. So if I keep it 15 years it will be free
I have a pretty awesome commute through the Yorkshire dales.
Life's too short to drive a crap car
Man maths works in favour too, I do a fair amount of business miles (14k per year) and get 25p per mile and the petrol costs on average 17p per mile. So with the tax rebate and margin in the milage rate I make around £2k a year driving it. So if I keep it 15 years it will be free
Edited by djglover on Tuesday 14th October 13:15
corvus said:
A68 in an Impreza? Last time I was up there I was in a poxy Audi 80tdi that was overheating.
I envy you
Yeah it was great. I had no idea of the delights ahead I envy you
Actually, it was one of those super rare drives where you encounter a few like minded people and so queues of traffic are gradually dispatched rather than becoming an obstruction. Made it all the more enjoyable.
donz29 said:
New C63 arrived in May - now on 10k miles. Life's short.
Top Man 
The family car for the past 3 years was a Volvo S40 2.0D, which I would call a Ford Focus with a nice interior but minus the Focus' fun to drive.
We needed a bigger car for our teenage kids and we don't do the miles to justify a diesel anymore (7-10K pa).
So all set on going back to petrol, but trying to find a three year old petrol family estate car that's not uber performance or dog slow proved to be a challenge.
Finally found a 61 plate 2011 Skoda Superb Estate 1.8 TSI SE 4x4 manual with just under 20K on the clock for 12K approved used from the main dealer.
For a big 1.8 powered 4WD barge it goes rather well, mpg is an indicated average of 23mpg for the nasty stop/start school run up a hill in heavy traffic, the 2WD diesel Volvo did an indicated 28-30mpg on the same run.
We needed a bigger car for our teenage kids and we don't do the miles to justify a diesel anymore (7-10K pa).
So all set on going back to petrol, but trying to find a three year old petrol family estate car that's not uber performance or dog slow proved to be a challenge.
Finally found a 61 plate 2011 Skoda Superb Estate 1.8 TSI SE 4x4 manual with just under 20K on the clock for 12K approved used from the main dealer.
For a big 1.8 powered 4WD barge it goes rather well, mpg is an indicated average of 23mpg for the nasty stop/start school run up a hill in heavy traffic, the 2WD diesel Volvo did an indicated 28-30mpg on the same run.
I drive a 3.0 litre V6 Jaguar x-type auto and get about 30mpg, a colleague who does virtually the same commute has a BMW 525d auto and only gets about 32mpg. He pays more per litre of fuel. He says that when he replaces it he will go back to petrol.
It is a no brainer: diesel stinks, I hate getting it on my shoes in a petrol station, even worse on hands. Diesel is more polluting. And petrol engines, particularly with six or eight cylinders sound wonderful.
Diesel is for tractors. Vile stuff. The fuel of the devil.
And if I ever have to down-size, small modern petrols with turbos are way better than small diesels and similar on fuel.
I have tried to convince myself in the past to buy a diesel, but never even got as far as a test drive.
It is a no brainer: diesel stinks, I hate getting it on my shoes in a petrol station, even worse on hands. Diesel is more polluting. And petrol engines, particularly with six or eight cylinders sound wonderful.
Diesel is for tractors. Vile stuff. The fuel of the devil.
And if I ever have to down-size, small modern petrols with turbos are way better than small diesels and similar on fuel.
I have tried to convince myself in the past to buy a diesel, but never even got as far as a test drive.
djglover said:
Got a 12 month old M135i with 21,000 miles on.
I have a pretty awesome commute through the Yorkshire dales.
Life's too short to drive a crap car
Man maths works in favour too, I do a fair amount of business miles (14k per year) and get 25p per mile and the petrol costs on average 17p per mile. So with the tax rebate and margin in the milage rate I make around £2k a year driving it. So if I keep it 15 years it will be free
These are the I have a pretty awesome commute through the Yorkshire dales.
Life's too short to drive a crap car
Man maths works in favour too, I do a fair amount of business miles (14k per year) and get 25p per mile and the petrol costs on average 17p per mile. So with the tax rebate and margin in the milage rate I make around £2k a year driving it. So if I keep it 15 years it will be free
Edited by djglover on Tuesday 14th October 13:15
If I can squeeze this past the "fleet manager" (Hr lady) its Bye Bye Black Pump.
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