Fuel Prices near me

[Pan Pan]

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

[Pan Pan]

shibby! said:

To be fair, i have spent a lot of time in the US, in quite a few different states and cities.

While the petrol or gasoline prices are low, which is pretty nice. Everything you want or need to go to is far away.
So while you are paying less for fuel, you are generally having to travel further to go to a destination meaning that you use more fuel. Cost = the same! Since on average in most UK cities and towns have what they need within a few miles.

Thats my experience anyway.

Good point! but it seems the US are waking up to the way European cars have much better gas mileage, and levels of handling, and sophistication.
Of course if the most widely sold vehicle is a multi litre pick up / suv type vehicle, then the import of more fuel efficient vehicles, is not going to have much effect either way..

[Jimbeaux]

TheRealFingers99 said:

Jimbeaux said:

To expand the issue, let's talk utilities. My recent electric/gas bill was $163 for September. 4,000 square foot house, about 50 years old., My parents' is slightly larger and only about 10 years old, their bill around $79 for September due to better insulated windows, computer placed vents,etc. in the US, it varies widely on the part of the country and if gas or electricity is the dominant choice of use. How are these prices there and does it vary much nationwide or pretty steady across the board?

I'd say much higher than that. In Winter I usually pay something like £40 a week for gas and electricity and live in a 2 bedroom flat. Less, of course, in Summer. Generally Europe has higher fuel/energy and food prices (but probably better food!) than you of the colonies.

Better food? Well, let's just say opinions vary. Here, if gas is high one winter, the colder states pay more, in the long hot summers, the warm areas pay more due to electricity. Then it matters if the powerplant is fueled by gas, nuke, coal, etc. Too many variations to be consistent across the nation.

[Jimbeaux]

R I C H said:

Jimbeaux said:

Then why do you keep equating your good healthcare to high fuel prices? I pay $204/month for my family and receive some of the best healthcare in the world imo, yet pay $2-3/gallon for fuel.

Despite "some of the best healthcare in the world", US infant mortality rates are higher than many in Europe, and life expectancy is lower too. You should ask for a refund

I've seen your smiles, you should riot in the streets.

[Jimbeaux]

Polarbert said:

Its about $3.35 a gallon here in San Diego at the moment. We are paying about $36 a month in 'leccy for a one bedroom flat. Don't have gas to worry about.

Since moving here I've been absolutely shocked at the hold certain providers have over you. There is only one gas and electric company, and our apartment building only has two internet providers available, as the others don't have use of the cables into the property.

$36/month for electricity in a one room flat is cheap compared to somewhere in Europe. Especially seeing as you are in the People's Republic of California! I am surprised they aren't taxing you on oxygen out there.

[Jimbeaux]

kambites said:

Jimbeaux said:

I see; I'm glad you're happy.

I wouldn't exactly go that far. There are plenty of things about UK society which I don't like and plenty of places I'd rather live if various barriers weren't in the way (although the US certainly isn't one of them). I just don't see petrol prices as being remotely significant compared to a great many other issues in the UK/world at the moment.

Neither do I, I just started a fuel price thread to talk about petrol prices; there are other threads about other "significant world issues". And the US is surely "butt hurt" that we "certainly" are not on your list of living spots due to our horribleness.

[Jimbeaux]

shibby! said:

To be fair, i have spent a lot of time in the US, in quite a few different states and cities.

While the petrol or gasoline prices are low, which is pretty nice. Everything you want or need to go to is far away.
So while you are paying less for fuel, you are generally having to travel further to go to a destination meaning that you use more fuel. Cost = the same! Since on average in most UK cities and towns have what they need within a few miles.

Thats my experience anyway.

Very true in many cases. I notice the "old home town" urge is taking hold in many places. Here in my city, residential neighborhoods are building shopping centers, Doctors' offices, etc. within their confines. Higher costs but within walking distances.

[Jimbeaux]

Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

[Jimbeaux]

Pan Pan said:

shibby! said:

To be fair, i have spent a lot of time in the US, in quite a few different states and cities.

While the petrol or gasoline prices are low, which is pretty nice. Everything you want or need to go to is far away.
So while you are paying less for fuel, you are generally having to travel further to go to a destination meaning that you use more fuel. Cost = the same! Since on average in most UK cities and towns have what they need within a few miles.

Thats my experience anyway.

Good point! but it seems the US are waking up to the way European cars have much better gas mileage, and levels of handling, and sophistication.
Of course if the most widely sold vehicle is a multi litre pick up / suv type vehicle, then the import of more fuel efficient vehicles, is not going to have much effect either way..

Certain places work well with smaller cars; others need a pickup truck/SUV for hauling things for one's yard (garden), pulling boats, ect. over relatively longer distances.

[rovermorris999]

So what I've learnt is that two very different countries are er.... different. Blow me down!

[Pan Pan]

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

The problem with the NHS is that it is a misnomer. the real name should perhaps be, the international health service. This is why we are (despite huge government revenues taken from UK road users) being continually told that the NHS is in in financial crises.
Believe me the NHS is very good, but is `now' being asked to deal with numbers, that were just not envisaged when it was first set up. (The UK population has risen from circa 33 million just after the last war, to circa 70 million now) (a never before seen rise in population in the UK) and a population equivalent to a town the size of Swindon, is being added to the UK every year, Caused by people living longer, and by an unprecedented population (and therefore users) increase. It is hardly any surprise that there are funding problems.

[Jimbeaux]

rovermorris999 said:

So what I've learnt is that two very different countries are er.... different. Blow me down!

What else one may garner from PH is that the different country is "mostly just so bad".

[Jimbeaux]

Pan Pan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

The problem with the NHS is that it is a misnomer. the real name should perhaps be, the international health service. This is why we are (despite huge government revenues taken from UK road users) being continually told that the NHS is in in financial crises.
Believe me the NHS is very good, but is `now' being asked to deal with numbers, that were just not envisaged when it was first set up. (The UK population has risen from circa 33 million just after the last war, to circa 70 million now) (a never before seen rise in population in the UK) and a population equivalent to a town the size of Swindon, is being added to the UK every year, Caused by people living longer, and by an unprecedented population (and therefore users) increase. It is hardly any surprise that there are funding problems.

Apparently, a large portion of those that have increased the population are not paying taxes or the thing would balance out.

[kambites]

Pan Pan said:

The problem with the NHS is that it is a misnomer. the real name should perhaps be, the international health service. This is why we are (despite huge government revenues taken from UK road users) being continually told that the NHS is in in financial crises.
Believe me the NHS is very good, but is `now' being asked to deal with numbers, that were just not envisaged when it was first set up. (The UK population has risen from circa 33 million just after the last war, to circa 70 million now) (a never before seen rise in population in the UK) and a population equivalent to a town the size of Swindon, is being added to the UK every year, Caused by people living longer, and by an unprecedented population (and therefore users) increase. It is hardly any surprise that there are funding problems.

Theoretically, tax intake should be rising roughly in line with population and economies of scale should mean the service improves overall.

Sadly, since bureaucracy seems to increase roughly with the square of budget, this doesn't appear to happen.

[BL Fanboy]

Morrisons near me, unleaded 120.9p

Keep it coming!

[Pan Pan]

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

The problem with the NHS is that it is a misnomer. the real name should perhaps be, the international health service. This is why we are (despite huge government revenues taken from UK road users) being continually told that the NHS is in in financial crises.
Believe me the NHS is very good, but is `now' being asked to deal with numbers, that were just not envisaged when it was first set up. (The UK population has risen from circa 33 million just after the last war, to circa 70 million now) (a never before seen rise in population in the UK) and a population equivalent to a town the size of Swindon, is being added to the UK every year, Caused by people living longer, and by an unprecedented population (and therefore users) increase. It is hardly any surprise that there are funding problems.

Apparently, a large portion of those that have increased the population are not paying taxes or the thing would balance out.

You may be correct on that, which may be why, (as the Mayor of Calais stated at a meeting in London this week) people are who gather at Calais are literally dying to get into the UK. They take dangerous routes often after being fleeced by those who claim they can get them into the country.
She felt our benefits system was too easy for people to access and it acted as a magnet for people to come to the UK.
I saw a comment on this last week, where a person receiving these `benefits' asks his mum, What is democracy, intolerance and racism?
the Mum replies, Democracy is where people work and pay their taxes, so that those who do not contribute anything can be given free housing, free health care , free spending money, and many other benefits.
The boy replies, but don't the people who work, and pay the taxes, get fed up this, and complain about it?
Yes she replies, but they are called intolerant, or racist!

[Jimbeaux]

Pan Pan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

The problem with the NHS is that it is a misnomer. the real name should perhaps be, the international health service. This is why we are (despite huge government revenues taken from UK road users) being continually told that the NHS is in in financial crises.
Believe me the NHS is very good, but is `now' being asked to deal with numbers, that were just not envisaged when it was first set up. (The UK population has risen from circa 33 million just after the last war, to circa 70 million now) (a never before seen rise in population in the UK) and a population equivalent to a town the size of Swindon, is being added to the UK every year, Caused by people living longer, and by an unprecedented population (and therefore users) increase. It is hardly any surprise that there are funding problems.

Apparently, a large portion of those that have increased the population are not paying taxes or the thing would balance out.

You may be correct on that, which may be why, (as the Mayor of Calais stated at a meeting in London this week) people are who gather at Calais are literally dying to get into the UK. They take dangerous routes often after being fleeced by those who claim they can get them into the country.
She felt our benefits system was too easy for people to access and it acted as a magnet for people to come to the UK.
I saw a comment on this last week, where a person receiving these `benefits' asks his mum, What is democracy, intolerance and racism?
the Mum replies, Democracy is where people work and pay their taxes, so that those who do not contribute anything can be given free housing, free health care , free spending money, and many other benefits.
The boy replies, but don't the people who work, and pay the taxes, get fed up this, and complain about it?
Yes she replies, but they are called intolerant, or racist!

If that is true, that is sickening as that view has/will become generational. Our benefits system has become a magnet as well for illegal immigrants; they have mastered the code. Any safeguards that Bill Clinton put in place have been torn down by the Obama Administration. It's no secret, addiction to benefits equates to votes for Democrats.

[mph1977]

Willy Nilly said:

From what I gather, both your system of private health care and our system of tax payer funded health care actually cost about the same and both have their pros and cons. I remember paying $0.89/gallon in Louisiana in 1998.

the US pays more in terms of %age of GDP for the limited healthcare it provides through the state ( iirc this figure doesn;t include tricare which is the DoD scheme for serving and ex forces).

those quoting low figures for health insurance tend to fall into 3 categories

1. legacy clients
2. those who are paying only part of their premiums because the employer is paying some
3. people who don;t realise how poor their cover is and/or assume that the NHS is less free at the point of delivery than it is.

[Jimbeaux]

mph1977 said:

Willy Nilly said:

From what I gather, both your system of private health care and our system of tax payer funded health care actually cost about the same and both have their pros and cons. I remember paying $0.89/gallon in Louisiana in 1998.

the US pays more in terms of %age of GDP for the limited healthcare it provides through the state ( iirc this figure doesn;t include tricare which is the DoD scheme for serving and ex forces).

those quoting low figures for health insurance tend to fall into 3 categories

1. legacy clients
2. those who are paying only part of their premiums because the employer is paying some
3. people who don;t realise how poor their cover is and/or assume that the NHS is less free at the point of delivery than it is.

Number 2 fits the majority of Americans; at least until 2015.

[Jimbeaux]

Costco now at $2.40 s gallon. With Saudi Arabia unexpectedly slashing prices, the prices are going even lower.