Fuel Prices near me

[CraigyMc]

Lost soul said:

stephen300o said:

I was feeling good about our fuel prices till my US friend says he is paying $1.60 a gallon.

I find that very hard to believe

Fistly, here's a gas station which is doing fuel at that price: http://www.missourigasprices.com/QuikTrip_Gas_Stat...


As to Stephen300o's friend, USD$1.60 is GBP£1.06.

A US gallon is 3.78541 litres, which at $1.60 a US gallon is the same as 28p per litre.

What's more interesting is that 17 cents of that $1.60 is a Missouri-levied state tax on fuel (http://dor.mo.gov/business/fuel/) - this is about 10.6% of the current price.

For comparison, in the UK, the tax burden on the fuel at the moment is more like 70%.


Edited to add: probably worth pointing out that the "regular" on sale there is 87RON (AKI measured as they use in the US), which is about 92RON (as we use it in the UK), a grade below the 95RON which is the basic fuel available in the UK.

Edited by CraigyMc on Wednesday 7th January 08:54

[Jimbeaux]

CraigyMc said:

Lost soul said:

stephen300o said:

I was feeling good about our fuel prices till my US friend says he is paying $1.60 a gallon.

I find that very hard to believe

Fistly, here's a gas station which is doing fuel at that price: http://www.missourigasprices.com/QuikTrip_Gas_Stat...


As to Stephen300o's friend, USD$1.60 is GBP£1.06.

A US gallon is 3.78541 litres, which at $1.60 a US gallon is the same as 28p per litre.

What's more interesting is that 17 cents of that $1.60 is a Missouri-levied state tax on fuel (http://dor.mo.gov/business/fuel/) - this is about 10.6% of the current price.

For comparison, in the UK, the tax burden on the fuel at the moment is more like 70%.


Edited to add: probably worth pointing out that the "regular" on sale there is 87RON (AKI measured as they use in the US), which is about 92RON (as we use it in the UK), a grade below the 95RON which is the basic fuel available in the UK.

Edited by CraigyMc on Wednesday 7th January 08:54

We use a RON/MON hybrid measure. I believe it urns out about equal.

[Burwood]

Jim- as a mad fisherman i can see why the Florida boys run these quads 350 outboards which burn 100 gallons an hr

[007 VXR]

Down another 1p today £1.08

[55palfers]

Texaco UL @ £105.5

[CraigyMc]

Jimbeaux said:

We use a RON/MON hybrid measure. I believe it turns out about equal.

I see you're from the US.

• In the US, the octane measurement is (RON+MON)/2, this is the Anti Knock Index, or "AKI" I mentioned in a previous post. Sometimes it's called "pump octane".
• In the UK, MON isn't taken into account in the stated value - the pumps here simply display the RON value as the octane rating (95RON is the minimum here).

As for them turning out about equal, I'm afraid they don't. The US has grades of fuel below what would be found in the UK.
The minimum found here (what we call 95 octane, aka 95RON) is specified under a standard called BS EN 228. (ref: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1994/2295/made )
It's roughly equivalent to what in the US would be sold as 90-91 octane under the AKI (pump octane) system in use there.

There is no UK equivalent of what is sold in the US as 87-88 octane (that is, "regular"). It doesn't meet the minimum standard for sale here.

[Jimbeaux]

Burwood said:

Jim- as a mad fisherman i can see why the Florida boys run these quads 350 outboards which burn 100 gallons an hr

Nah, they are just crazy!

[Jimbeaux]

CraigyMc said:

Jimbeaux said:

We use a RON/MON hybrid measure. I believe it turns out about equal.

I see you're from the US.

• In the US, the octane measurement is (RON+MON)/2, this is the Anti Knock Index, or "AKI" I mentioned in a previous post. Sometimes it's called "pump octane".
• In the UK, MON isn't taken into account in the stated value - the pumps here simply display the RON value as the octane rating (95RON is the minimum here).

As for them turning out about equal, I'm afraid they don't. The US has grades of fuel below what would be found in the UK.
The minimum found here (what we call 95 octane, aka 95RON) is specified under a standard called BS EN 228. (ref: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1994/2295/made )
It's roughly equivalent to what in the US would be sold as 90-91 octane under the AKI (pump octane) system in use there.

There is no UK equivalent of what is sold in the US as 87-88 octane (that is, "regular"). It doesn't meet the minimum standard for sale here.

So, the 93 I put in my car is equal to what in the U.K., 99?

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 8th January 16:45

[TheAngryDog]

Gibson70 said:

£1.03 unleaded at Esso in Aylesbury !

Ill have a working fuel pump in a few hours, I'll have to go fill up!

[CraigyMc]

Jimbeaux said:

So, the 93 I put in my car is equal to what in the U.K., 99?

93 AKI is about 98 RON, which is called "Super Unleaded" here.

The spec for UK super is basically anything above 97RON as stipulated by the standard BS 7800.
Umpteen companies sell it, and they sometimes change formulations (eg. Shell was doing 97RON under the marketing label of "optimax", then changed that out for 99RON and changed the name to Vpower).

Here's a list:

BP Ultimate       : 97 RON
Texaco Super      : 97 RON
Esso Super        : 97 RON 
Sainsbury's Super : 97 RON
Waitrose Super    : 98 RON
Tesco Momentum    : 99 RON
Shell V-Power     : 99 RON

Anything beyond this in the UK and you're talking about buying fuel by the drum from a specialist.
BP did trial 102 RON fuel, but it was priced at something crazy like 250% of the Super Unleaded price, so it wasn't a commercial success here.

[Jimbeaux]

CraigyMc said:

Jimbeaux said:

So, the 93 I put in my car is equal to what in the U.K., 99?

93 AKI is about 98 RON, which is called "Super Unleaded" here.

The spec for UK super is basically anything above 97RON as stipulated by the standard BS 7800.
Umpteen companies sell it, and they sometimes change formulations (eg. Shell was doing 97RON under the marketing label of "optimax", then changed that out for 99RON and changed the name to Vpower).

Here's a list:

BP Ultimate       : 97 RON
Texaco Super      : 97 RON
Esso Super        : 97 RON 
Sainsbury's Super : 97 RON
Waitrose Super    : 98 RON
Tesco Momentum    : 99 RON
Shell V-Power     : 99 RON

Anything beyond this in the UK and you're talking about buying fuel by the drum from a specialist.
BP did trial 102 RON fuel, but it was priced at something crazy like 250% of the Super Unleaded price, so it wasn't a commercial success here.

Thanks. My point though, is that our "Super Unleaded" of 93 is equal to your "Super Unleaded" 99. Therefore, out other fuels should be equivilent as well, no?

[CraigyMc]

Jimbeaux said:

Thanks. My point though, is that our "Super Unleaded" of 93 is equal to your "Super Unleaded" 99. Therefore, out other fuels should be equivilent as well, no?

Sort of. It's equivalent for fuel grades sold in both countries, but not all of the fuel grades are sold in both countries.

The gasoline called "Regular" in the US (87-88AKI using the US octane system, 91-92RON using the UK octane system) doesn't get sold in the UK. The minimum grade here is premium (95RON UK).

[Jimbeaux]

CraigyMc said:

Jimbeaux said:

Thanks. My point though, is that our "Super Unleaded" of 93 is equal to your "Super Unleaded" 99. Therefore, out other fuels should be equivilent as well, no?

Sort of. It's equivalent for fuel grades sold in both countries, but not all of the fuel grades are sold in both countries.

The gasoline called "Regular" in the US (87-88AKI using the US octane system, 91-92RON using the UK octane system) doesn't get sold in the UK. The minimum grade here is premium (95RON UK).

Got it; thanks.