Fuel Prices near me

[Jimbeaux]

kambites said:

Jimbeaux said:

I see; I'm glad you're happy.

I wouldn't exactly go that far. There are plenty of things about UK society which I don't like and plenty of places I'd rather live if various barriers weren't in the way (although the US certainly isn't one of them). I just don't see petrol prices as being remotely significant compared to a great many other issues in the UK/world at the moment.

Neither do I, I just started a fuel price thread to talk about petrol prices; there are other threads about other "significant world issues". And the US is surely "butt hurt" that we "certainly" are not on your list of living spots due to our horribleness.

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shibby! said:

To be fair, i have spent a lot of time in the US, in quite a few different states and cities.

While the petrol or gasoline prices are low, which is pretty nice. Everything you want or need to go to is far away.
So while you are paying less for fuel, you are generally having to travel further to go to a destination meaning that you use more fuel. Cost = the same! Since on average in most UK cities and towns have what they need within a few miles.

Thats my experience anyway.

Very true in many cases. I notice the "old home town" urge is taking hold in many places. Here in my city, residential neighborhoods are building shopping centers, Doctors' offices, etc. within their confines. Higher costs but within walking distances.

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Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

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Pan Pan said:

shibby! said:

To be fair, i have spent a lot of time in the US, in quite a few different states and cities.

While the petrol or gasoline prices are low, which is pretty nice. Everything you want or need to go to is far away.
So while you are paying less for fuel, you are generally having to travel further to go to a destination meaning that you use more fuel. Cost = the same! Since on average in most UK cities and towns have what they need within a few miles.

Thats my experience anyway.

Good point! but it seems the US are waking up to the way European cars have much better gas mileage, and levels of handling, and sophistication.
Of course if the most widely sold vehicle is a multi litre pick up / suv type vehicle, then the import of more fuel efficient vehicles, is not going to have much effect either way..

Certain places work well with smaller cars; others need a pickup truck/SUV for hauling things for one's yard (garden), pulling boats, ect. over relatively longer distances.

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rovermorris999 said:

So what I've learnt is that two very different countries are er.... different. Blow me down!

What else one may garner from PH is that the different country is "mostly just so bad".

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Pan Pan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

The problem with the NHS is that it is a misnomer. the real name should perhaps be, the international health service. This is why we are (despite huge government revenues taken from UK road users) being continually told that the NHS is in in financial crises.
Believe me the NHS is very good, but is `now' being asked to deal with numbers, that were just not envisaged when it was first set up. (The UK population has risen from circa 33 million just after the last war, to circa 70 million now) (a never before seen rise in population in the UK) and a population equivalent to a town the size of Swindon, is being added to the UK every year, Caused by people living longer, and by an unprecedented population (and therefore users) increase. It is hardly any surprise that there are funding problems.

Apparently, a large portion of those that have increased the population are not paying taxes or the thing would balance out.

[Jimbeaux]

Pan Pan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Jimbeaux said:

Pan Pan said:

Gargamel said:

GTIR said:

I wonder who pays for that cheap fuel.

Where do you think the $2 trillion that the US administration has been spent so far in Iraq, Afghanistan comes from?

ETA It's $6 trillion, sorry!

Edited by GTIR on Wednesday 15th October 15:51

Does the US actually import much oil ? Genuine question by the way.

One of the factors which as brought down the global price of oil is the USA`s success in obtaining oil by Fracking, which means they are taking less from existing external sources. I don't have any problem whatsoever with that if it brings prices here down a little!

That is how we became the world's number one gas producer as well. If we have a few policy changes, we can become the number one oil producer before 2020.

The problem with the NHS is that it is a misnomer. the real name should perhaps be, the international health service. This is why we are (despite huge government revenues taken from UK road users) being continually told that the NHS is in in financial crises.
Believe me the NHS is very good, but is `now' being asked to deal with numbers, that were just not envisaged when it was first set up. (The UK population has risen from circa 33 million just after the last war, to circa 70 million now) (a never before seen rise in population in the UK) and a population equivalent to a town the size of Swindon, is being added to the UK every year, Caused by people living longer, and by an unprecedented population (and therefore users) increase. It is hardly any surprise that there are funding problems.

Apparently, a large portion of those that have increased the population are not paying taxes or the thing would balance out.

You may be correct on that, which may be why, (as the Mayor of Calais stated at a meeting in London this week) people are who gather at Calais are literally dying to get into the UK. They take dangerous routes often after being fleeced by those who claim they can get them into the country.
She felt our benefits system was too easy for people to access and it acted as a magnet for people to come to the UK.
I saw a comment on this last week, where a person receiving these `benefits' asks his mum, What is democracy, intolerance and racism?
the Mum replies, Democracy is where people work and pay their taxes, so that those who do not contribute anything can be given free housing, free health care , free spending money, and many other benefits.
The boy replies, but don't the people who work, and pay the taxes, get fed up this, and complain about it?
Yes she replies, but they are called intolerant, or racist!

If that is true, that is sickening as that view has/will become generational. Our benefits system has become a magnet as well for illegal immigrants; they have mastered the code. Any safeguards that Bill Clinton put in place have been torn down by the Obama Administration. It's no secret, addiction to benefits equates to votes for Democrats.

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mph1977 said:

Willy Nilly said:

From what I gather, both your system of private health care and our system of tax payer funded health care actually cost about the same and both have their pros and cons. I remember paying $0.89/gallon in Louisiana in 1998.

the US pays more in terms of %age of GDP for the limited healthcare it provides through the state ( iirc this figure doesn;t include tricare which is the DoD scheme for serving and ex forces).

those quoting low figures for health insurance tend to fall into 3 categories

1. legacy clients
2. those who are paying only part of their premiums because the employer is paying some
3. people who don;t realise how poor their cover is and/or assume that the NHS is less free at the point of delivery than it is.

Number 2 fits the majority of Americans; at least until 2015.

[Jimbeaux]

Costco now at $2.40 s gallon. With Saudi Arabia unexpectedly slashing prices, the prices are going even lower.

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Update! $2.17 / gallon near me. Texas and Oklahoma going for $1.98 / gallon.....heading my way!

The Saudis are trying to lower the price by not cutting production. Their aim, IMO, is to drive prices low enough to make the fracking process too expensive. Putin claims it is a conspiracy between the U.S. and Saudis to lower the price to wreck Russia's economy. Who knows?

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I just know someone with a long beard is going to pull a stunt anytime now and screw up all of this good pricing news.

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askew said:

Santa?

Not unless there are eight camels pulling his ride.

[Jimbeaux]

Gasoline now $1.99 at my local Costco!

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TeaNoSugar said:

Normally in these situations OPEC cut production to maintain prices, but they haven't done that so far, so what's different this time? Is it down to new US production from shale or wherever it is they're getting it?

The U.S. shale is what is hurting the Saudis. The theory is that they are not cutting production so as to lower the price to a point that extracting the shale oil becomes non-cost effective. The oil barons, at a recent meeting in Texas claims they anticipated this and have made adjustments. Time will tell. I am pretty sure at some point, it will be in enough peoples' interest to get prices back up.

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skyrover said:

Price war... OPEC want's US shale producers out of buisness

I must say, that is a far more to the point version of the above post.


http://www.cnbc.com/id/102234051

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21635472-eco...

Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 11th December 17:07

[Jimbeaux]

$1.86 gallon now at my local Costco.

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How long before someone in government dreams up a new fuel tax, thinking that since prices are lower, the consumer can withstand it?

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skyrover said:

Jimbeaux said:

How long before someone in government dreams up a new fuel tax, thinking that since prices are lower, the consumer can withstand it?

No need... they will simply re-introduce the fuel duty escalator

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_Price_Escalator

How wonderful.

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Cemesis said:

Not read all 10 pages so this may have been mentioned but many cars in the US get around 20mpg due to an almost unrepentent desire for an 'automatic', coupled with large engines and eleventybillion stop signs. I get 60mpg out of my car so if our fuel is 3 times the price would it not work out around the same? As cars in the UK are generally far more economic than our Chevy/Dodge counterparts, I suspect the cost gap is not as great as it may seem.

Regarding the US becoming less dependent on foreign oil, its true. They now have a natural gas surplus due to fracking and oil is going the same way. The UK has a good chance of doing the same if the necessary legislation is passed but I think we are being quite cautious over here due to 1. The Nanny State and 2. The various issues that some US communities have faced due to nearby fracking.

All valid points.

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Now $1.78 / Gallon at my Costco.