Bull@#$% Uneccessary Car Servicing Recommendations
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Mound Dawg said:
I thought that too. The wheels would come off to check the brake pads anyway so charging extra just to roll them to the other end of the car is very cheeky.
Dealers dont take the wheels off to check the brake pads, its a visual inspection only, with teh wheels in place. I know this for a fact as the rear pads on my VW passat disintegrated about 200 miles after a service and I had to be recovered. When they took the wheels off there were no pads left to speak of - odd as prior to them failing I had no noises from the rear. I questioned the service manager and he told me that 'we inspected the pads and they were present when inspected'.Edited by Mound Dawg on Friday 17th October 07:15
Note that they inspect to see if they are present, not to see if they have any life left in them. I contact VW customer services who backed the dealer up 100% and confirmed that the inspection covered only the fact that pads were indeed present, no requirement to report on their condition.
Dodsy said:
Mound Dawg said:
I thought that too. The wheels would come off to check the brake pads anyway so charging extra just to roll them to the other end of the car is very cheeky.
Dealers dont take the wheels off to check the brake pads, its a visual inspection only, with teh wheels in place. I know this for a fact as the rear pads on my VW passat disintegrated about 200 miles after a service and I had to be recovered. When they took the wheels off there were no pads left to speak of - odd as prior to them failing I had no noises from the rear. I questioned the service manager and he told me that 'we inspected the pads and they were present when inspected'.Note that they inspect to see if they are present, not to see if they have any life left in them. I contact VW customer services who backed the dealer up 100% and confirmed that the inspection covered only the fact that pads were indeed present, no requirement to report on their condition.
pmjg66 said:
Good call. "We remove the wheels to visually check all the brake parts. We also measure the brake pad wear level. If the pads or discs are worn, corroded or warped we will let you know so we can arrange to replace them."Zoobeef said:
Do you know how a master cylinder works inside? And the difference between a fluid and a gas? And sealing a high pressure gas against a seal on a high speed rotating shaft?
You can guarantee a brake system won't leak, you can't on an AC system. Simple as that.
Yes I do thanks.You can guarantee a brake system won't leak, you can't on an AC system. Simple as that.
We can make coolant systems, brake systems, fuel systems, power steering systems, that we expect to work without leaking. They work at high and low pressure, static and rotating seals, liquid and vapour, high and low temperature. So why not A/C?
Mave said:
Zoobeef said:
Do you know how a master cylinder works inside? And the difference between a fluid and a gas? And sealing a high pressure gas against a seal on a high speed rotating shaft?
You can guarantee a brake system won't leak, you can't on an AC system. Simple as that.
Yes I do thanks.You can guarantee a brake system won't leak, you can't on an AC system. Simple as that.
We can make coolant systems, brake systems, fuel systems, power steering systems, that we expect to work without leaking. They work at high and low pressure, static and rotating seals, liquid and vapour, high and low temperature. So why not A/C?
TA14 said:
pmjg66 said:
Good call. "We remove the wheels to visually check all the brake parts. We also measure the brake pad wear level. If the pads or discs are worn, corroded or warped we will let you know so we can arrange to replace them."PorkRind said:
Audi and their 5mm tire replacement suggestions boil my piss. Yes Inchape of Tetbury, you are a shower of s
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VW told me the "European legal limit" is 3mm so my tyres (which I reckon had 5mm on them) HAD to be replaced.t.That was also at an Inchcape dealer. Every visit feels like a scam and they refused to replace diamond cut alloys which are starting to fail.
There was one dealer/garage I knew of that, when doing MOTs, seemed to regularly fail cars on headlight alignment and charge £20 to sort. It happened often enough to enough different folk I knew that I began to suspect they were doing it for a bit of extra ££
Headlight alignment is one of the things you can't really check at home prior to an MOT and £20 to sort isn't going to break the bank
Headlight alignment is one of the things you can't really check at home prior to an MOT and £20 to sort isn't going to break the bank
feef said:
Headlight alignment is one of the things you can't really check at home prior to an MOT and £20 to sort isn't going to break the bank
Very easy to check at home , all you need is a wall and a piece of chalk http://www.coolbulbs.com/HID-VISUAL-HEADLIGHT-AIMI...
liner33 said:
feef said:
Headlight alignment is one of the things you can't really check at home prior to an MOT and £20 to sort isn't going to break the bank
Very easy to check at home , all you need is a wall and a piece of chalk http://www.coolbulbs.com/HID-VISUAL-HEADLIGHT-AIMI...
Mave said:
Yes I do thanks.
We can make coolant systems, brake systems, fuel systems, power steering systems, that we expect to work without leaking. They work at high and low pressure, static and rotating seals, liquid and vapour, high and low temperature. So why not A/C?
Which one of those is a high pressure gas?We can make coolant systems, brake systems, fuel systems, power steering systems, that we expect to work without leaking. They work at high and low pressure, static and rotating seals, liquid and vapour, high and low temperature. So why not A/C?
Zoobeef said:
So why do you keep asking why they can't fully seal it and keep mentioning something completely different that they can seal?
Because I don't see what's so special about high pressure gas in a car. If we can seal brake systems at 150 bar and fuel systems at 2000 bar then why not a/c at 20 bar?Mave said:
Because I don't see what's so special about high pressure gas in a car. If we can seal brake systems at 150 bar and fuel systems at 2000 bar then why not a/c at 20 bar?
There isn't much point given the location of the condenser in most vehicles.Cost is an issue too I would assume
Mave said:
Because I don't see what's so special about high pressure gas in a car. If we can seal brake systems at 150 bar and fuel systems at 2000 bar then why not a/c at 20 bar?
Right, looked into it a bit more and the leaking 'from new' is alot of the time through the flexible hoses that you need on a car as the engine moves separately from the chassis. You can get hoses that don't leak but they are extremely expensive. Zoobeef said:
Right, looked into it a bit more and the leaking 'from new' is alot of the time through the flexible hoses that you need on a car as the engine moves separately from the chassis. You can get hoses that don't leak but they are extremely expensive.
Ok, interesting, thanks. I assumed that hoses that are good for very high pressure fluids would also be good for moderate pressure gases, maybe they're slightly permeable to gases..Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff