How to get best discount from a dealer

How to get best discount from a dealer

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RC1

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4,097 posts

219 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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ive never bought from a dealer but im thinking of something that the dealer has taken in px. I don't have a px to offer. id be looking to get about 10% off the car its up for about 15k at the moment its only been up for about a week

what's the best way to improve my haggle dance - ive seen some of the following raised on previous threads

1. buy it through their finance package and settle finance. do I incur early settlement charges? id want to settle the finance asap

2. wave him my debit card (better for them the merchant service charge is nil compared to cc)

3. wave him my credit card (better for me I get points and some protection)

4. offer to take it without their gtee ie sold as seen (not sure they do that?!)

anything else?

Snollygoster

1,538 posts

139 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Good luck getting £1.5k off a £15k car which has been for sale for a week.

sandman77

2,402 posts

138 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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If you want to buy a car for £13500 why are you going to look at one that costs £15000? Unless there is something very wrong with the car that you can haggle over then I guess getting a £1500 discount is not going to happen.

Anyway, they would obviously rather you took their finance then paid by bank funds or credit card.

datum77

470 posts

121 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Rc1.

Buy a banger for £500 and put the rest down as a deposit on a house which, (in the current and future economic climate), will earn you money instead of wasting it on a car which will always cost you.

supertouring

2,228 posts

233 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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datum77 said:
Rc1.

Buy a banger for £500 and put the rest down as a deposit on a house which, (in the current and future economic climate), will earn you money instead of wasting it on a car which will always cost you.
You're not really getting this "car forum" thing are you?

IanCress

4,409 posts

166 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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How come people are so anti-haggling all of a sudden? There's no harm in going down there and having a word with the dealer. The worst that can happen is they'll laugh in your face and tell you you're dreaming.

I think 10% is within the realms of possibilty but as with any used car, you don't know how much money the dealer has tied up in the car.

Snollygoster

1,538 posts

139 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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IanCress said:
How come people are so anti-haggling all of a sudden? There's no harm in going down there and having a word with the dealer. The worst that can happen is they'll laugh in your face and tell you you're dreaming.

I think 10% is within the realms of possibilty but as with any used car, you don't know how much money the dealer has tied up in the car.
I'm not one who's adverse to doing a bit of haggling, but it sounded like the OP was thinking 10% is perfectly achievable.

The fact he's looking at the car in particular, and knows it's been for sale for over a week would show he has a good interest in it, so there is likely to be others in the same boat.

As the car has only been for sale for a week, even if the dealer has a good margin across it, why would they blow all of that straight away?

Just saying he needs to set a much more achievable goal.


W4NTED

690 posts

214 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I once bought a £20k BMW 120d for £13k from a BMW main dealer - yes it was Havannah (brown) in colour but I drove it for a year and sold it for £15k biggrin

Was the last day of the month when I walked in and said I have £12k to spend on a car what have you - they threw the deal at me!

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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IanCress said:
How come people are so anti-haggling all of a sudden? There's no harm in going down there and having a word with the dealer. The worst that can happen is they'll laugh in your face and tell you you're dreaming.

I think 10% is within the realms of possibilty but as with any used car, you don't know how much money the dealer has tied up in the car.
+1.

People haggle over cars and houses. Car dealers must rub their hands together when Snolly turn up.

Matt UK

17,686 posts

200 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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datum77 said:
Rc1.

Buy a banger for £500 and put the rest down as a deposit on a house which, (in the current and future economic climate), will earn you money instead of wasting it on a car which will always cost you.
hehe Brilliant advice for the OP, well done.

RC1

Original Poster:

4,097 posts

219 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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come on good old folk from PH surely we can do better.... nothing cast in stone yet and whilst 10% would be nice ive got no idea whether it is or is not achievable only the dealer knows that

back on point... what should I do

rob.e

2,861 posts

278 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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best discounts are to be had at the end of the month usually, especially if the salesperson has a target to hit.

if not, then start of the month (dealer writes down all used stock each month by a depreciation percentage, so the stand-in value will be lower).

as above though, you won't get a good discount if its only just come into stock. something they've had for 60+ days though they'd take your arm off for the right offer.

leave it to christmas - if its still there when the weather is cold and nasty make a cheeky bid on christmas eve - they'll be desparate to sell smile

RC1

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4,097 posts

219 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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sandman77 said:
If you want to buy a car for £13500 why are you going to look at one that costs £15000? Unless there is something very wrong with the car that you can haggle over then I guess getting a £1500 discount is not going to happen.

Anyway, they would obviously rather you took their finance then paid by bank funds or credit card.
you've assumed that 15k is a fair price haven't you

RC1

Original Poster:

4,097 posts

219 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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IanCress said:
How come people are so anti-haggling all of a sudden? There's no harm in going down there and having a word with the dealer. The worst that can happen is they'll laugh in your face and tell you you're dreaming.

I think 10% is within the realms of possibilty but as with any used car, you don't know how much money the dealer has tied up in the car.
this is what im thinking too...

RC1

Original Poster:

4,097 posts

219 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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rob.e said:
best discounts are to be had at the end of the month usually, especially if the salesperson has a target to hit.

if not, then start of the month (dealer writes down all used stock each month by a depreciation percentage, so the stand-in value will be lower).

as above though, you won't get a good discount if its only just come into stock. something they've had for 60+ days though they'd take your arm off for the right offer.

leave it to christmas - if its still there when the weather is cold and nasty make a cheeky bid on christmas eve - they'll be desparate to sell smile
I wasn't sure if it was end of each month or end of each quarter

I know the fact its been up for just a few days is against me but im not sure if I can play a long game as they don't come up very often and production volumes for this particular variant are v low... the last one that came up privately went within hours...

so bottom line is pay up right but does taking finance mean ill get hit with early settlement fees which may offset any reduction of the ticket price?

carparkno1

1,432 posts

158 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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So many variables here. My own experience I went to BMW a couple of days before Xmas. Had a view to a 1 or 3 series and was very open about knowing the right car when I found it. There Xmas sale consisted of knocking a couple of hundred off the 3ers and not a lot else.

Parked in the corner was a 1 series couple. 2008, 120d, 29k on the clock. They'd knocked 750 off it and by the end of negotiations I'd got them to take another 750 off. It paid to be open on model as they clearly struggled to shift it. Lord knows why, it was optioned up like nothing else but being a 1 couple I suppose it was not viable for most people.

If you have your eye on one car, one model, you're gonna struggle to get 10% off especially if it is new to market. As others have said, rethink your situation, maybe set your sights a bit lower? Could be a long wait otherwise.

Friendly advice and all that :-)

RC1

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4,097 posts

219 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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ok chaps all advice heeded and ill keep you posted on the outcome!

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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RC1 said:
sandman77 said:
If you want to buy a car for £13500 why are you going to look at one that costs £15000? Unless there is something very wrong with the car that you can haggle over then I guess getting a £1500 discount is not going to happen.
you've assumed that 15k is a fair price haven't you
I'm with you on this one OP. Easier to get a 10% discount now rather than after 3 months when the price has been reduced three times and is at a sticker price of £13K.

HTP99

22,529 posts

140 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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RC1 said:
I know the fact its been up for just a few days is against me but im not sure if I can play a long game as they don't come up very often and production volumes for this particular variant are v low... the last one that came up privately went within hours...
I think from what you have written above; and assuming it is correctly priced, then you have no chance getting any kind of discount.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Screen price makes no difference at all when you're trading in - it's the cost to change that matters.