How to get best discount from a dealer
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gtidreamer said:
The bit about 'after costs' is just another dealer scam in my view. Whilst I realise it costs to clean, workshop check etc what is intolerable is the 'service department' charging the 'sales department' full - with profit rates (I know that many do this). It's just a scam to say that they are only making a few meagre per cent margin on each car when the actual profit over the whole process is far greater. Would anyone, with their own money invest/risk £13,000 in a depreciating asset to make £650 (5%)?
I take it you're aware of Sytner Group?£3,000,000,000 turnover, £66 million before tax profit.
http://www.am-online.com/news/2013/2/18/record-sal...
Or what about Lookers?
£2,460,000,000 turnover, £43.9 million before tax profit.
http://www.lse.co.uk/ShareNews.asp?shareprice=LOOK...
Or do you think they're hiding it all under a matress somewhere?
leefee said:
To answer the op's question. Firstly dont be a know it all knob about it, dont bring your "knowledgable freind" who hapens to "like cars" and do your home work first.,If i am uncompetitive then i will always haggle where i can, as others have said, if you are enquiring, it certainly isn't because its the most expencive one out there.
If you come in thinking you know it all and that your ability to buy it means it should be cheaper, you wont get far. Just as the punter can choose where they buy, the dealer can choose to who he sells. In my experience, those that haggle the hardest and want everything for nothing, are often the ones you need a wee bit up your sleeve for when what others would live with, they kick off about. Sometimes its a case of waiting for a better customer.
Sorry, that ship has sailed. Car sold.If you come in thinking you know it all and that your ability to buy it means it should be cheaper, you wont get far. Just as the punter can choose where they buy, the dealer can choose to who he sells. In my experience, those that haggle the hardest and want everything for nothing, are often the ones you need a wee bit up your sleeve for when what others would live with, they kick off about. Sometimes its a case of waiting for a better customer.
Hence why we're amusing ourselves by digressing.
Keep up at the back!
Edited by daemon on Monday 20th October 20:53
I realise that, but was just giving my view of how joe public should approach getting some money off., ie not how most seem to think they should 
Also worth remembering, certainly with smaller dealers that, the dealer who you screw down really hard on the deal and are generally not pleasant to deal with, might be the same man you will need help from if you need any aftersales care.... Esp wee niggles that might not be warranty, but could be done under good will.
Also worth remembering, certainly with smaller dealers that, the dealer who you screw down really hard on the deal and are generally not pleasant to deal with, might be the same man you will need help from if you need any aftersales care.... Esp wee niggles that might not be warranty, but could be done under good will.
leefee said:
To answer the op's question. Firstly dont be a know it all knob about it, dont bring your "knowledgable freind" who hapens to "like cars" and do your home work first.,If i am uncompetitive then i will always haggle where i can, as others have said, if you are enquiring, it certainly isn't because its the most expencive one out there.
If you come in thinking you know it all and that your ability to buy it means it should be cheaper, you wont get far. Just as the punter can choose where they buy, the dealer can choose to who he sells. In my experience, those that haggle the hardest and want everything for nothing, are often the ones you need a wee bit up your sleeve for when what others would live with, they kick off about. Sometimes its a case of waiting for a better customer.
Great post. A few pages in but you may be the first to answer the OP's question.If you come in thinking you know it all and that your ability to buy it means it should be cheaper, you wont get far. Just as the punter can choose where they buy, the dealer can choose to who he sells. In my experience, those that haggle the hardest and want everything for nothing, are often the ones you need a wee bit up your sleeve for when what others would live with, they kick off about. Sometimes its a case of waiting for a better customer.
I think that you can get silly money off a car if you are in the right place and time.
11 or so years ago when Mercedes sacked all their dealers the one nearest to where I was living in north East London morphed into an Audi dealership and reopened full of very high spec new cars.
Not long after it opened I went in and fell in love with an A4 2.5tdi Quattro sport which had a massive spec to go with it's massive price tag, which I think for 2003 was over £40k crazy crazy money. I got chatting and they offered it to me for about £37k ... Far too rich for me unfortunately.
I then used to drive to work past the garage onto the north circular every day and always looked for it in the showroom.. It was always there ... And then one day it was gone .. I thought well somebody got a great car.
Anyway a couple of months passed and there it was again back in the showroom as a used car... So had to pop in and have a look .
It was up for about £35k, had minimal miles and had been used by the service manager. I was talking to the same sales guy I had previously spoken too about it, and he said to me what would you buy the car for ?
I replied "well if it was £22k I'd buy it immediately" he went away and then came back and said to me are you serious ? I had been kind of tongue in cheek and never thought it would be taken seriously ... But it was it seems ... I said yes and he stuck his hand out.
Had a great four years with that car before swopping it for a 3.0tdi
11 or so years ago when Mercedes sacked all their dealers the one nearest to where I was living in north East London morphed into an Audi dealership and reopened full of very high spec new cars.
Not long after it opened I went in and fell in love with an A4 2.5tdi Quattro sport which had a massive spec to go with it's massive price tag, which I think for 2003 was over £40k crazy crazy money. I got chatting and they offered it to me for about £37k ... Far too rich for me unfortunately.
I then used to drive to work past the garage onto the north circular every day and always looked for it in the showroom.. It was always there ... And then one day it was gone .. I thought well somebody got a great car.
Anyway a couple of months passed and there it was again back in the showroom as a used car... So had to pop in and have a look .
It was up for about £35k, had minimal miles and had been used by the service manager. I was talking to the same sales guy I had previously spoken too about it, and he said to me what would you buy the car for ?
I replied "well if it was £22k I'd buy it immediately" he went away and then came back and said to me are you serious ? I had been kind of tongue in cheek and never thought it would be taken seriously ... But it was it seems ... I said yes and he stuck his hand out.
Had a great four years with that car before swopping it for a 3.0tdi
I think that you can get silly money off a car if you are in the right place and time.
11 or so years ago when Mercedes sacked all their dealers the one nearest to where I was living in north East London morphed into an Audi dealership and reopened full of very high spec new cars.
Not long after it opened I went in and fell in love with an A4 2.5tdi Quattro sport which had a massive spec to go with it's massive price tag, which I think for 2003 was over £40k crazy crazy money. I got chatting and they offered it to me for about £37k ... Far too rich for me unfortunately.
I then used to drive to work past the garage onto the north circular every day and always looked for it in the showroom.. It was always there ... And then one day it was gone .. I thought well somebody got a great car.
Anyway a couple of months passed and there it was again back in the showroom as a used car... So had to pop in and have a look .
It was up for about £35k, had minimal miles and had been used by the service manager. I was talking to the same sales guy I had previously spoken too about it, and he said to me what would you buy the car for ?
I replied "well if it was £22k I'd buy it immediately" he went away and then came back and said to me are you serious ? I had been kind of tongue in cheek and never thought it would be taken seriously ... But it was it seems ... I said yes and he stuck his hand out.
Had a great four years with that car before swopping it for a 3.0tdi
11 or so years ago when Mercedes sacked all their dealers the one nearest to where I was living in north East London morphed into an Audi dealership and reopened full of very high spec new cars.
Not long after it opened I went in and fell in love with an A4 2.5tdi Quattro sport which had a massive spec to go with it's massive price tag, which I think for 2003 was over £40k crazy crazy money. I got chatting and they offered it to me for about £37k ... Far too rich for me unfortunately.
I then used to drive to work past the garage onto the north circular every day and always looked for it in the showroom.. It was always there ... And then one day it was gone .. I thought well somebody got a great car.
Anyway a couple of months passed and there it was again back in the showroom as a used car... So had to pop in and have a look .
It was up for about £35k, had minimal miles and had been used by the service manager. I was talking to the same sales guy I had previously spoken too about it, and he said to me what would you buy the car for ?
I replied "well if it was £22k I'd buy it immediately" he went away and then came back and said to me are you serious ? I had been kind of tongue in cheek and never thought it would be taken seriously ... But it was it seems ... I said yes and he stuck his hand out.
Had a great four years with that car before swopping it for a 3.0tdi
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