RE: Zenos E10: Driven

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RTH

1,057 posts

212 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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This surely is not the final signed off body styling.

HeMightBeBanned

617 posts

178 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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RTH said:
This surely is not the final signed off body styling.
Erm, it very probably is.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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HorneyMX5 said:
scubadude said:
Zenos said:
Case in point ^^ look at the windscreen angle! Look how it jars awfully with the wing angle and the uncomfortable gap between the two parts, if that doesn't scream embarrassing afterthought to you please go to spec savers.
Luckily looks is a subjective matter and I think it looks brilliant. I actually think the screen improves the line sof the car.
I agree entirely. There's an air of Alfa 4C to the side profile of that. Sounds from the review like it's a joy to drive too.
Are they doing a proper closed-cockpit one? If so could compete with the likes of the GT86 for fun, daily-drivable RWD sports cars.

vtecyo

2,122 posts

129 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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ManOpener said:
I agree entirely. There's an air of Alfa 4C to the side profile of that. Sounds from the review like it's a joy to drive too.
Are they doing a proper closed-cockpit one? If so could compete with the likes of the GT86 for fun, daily-drivable RWD sports cars.
I think that's a bit optimistic...

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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vtecyo said:
ManOpener said:
I agree entirely. There's an air of Alfa 4C to the side profile of that. Sounds from the review like it's a joy to drive too.
Are they doing a proper closed-cockpit one? If so could compete with the likes of the GT86 for fun, daily-drivable RWD sports cars.
I think that's a bit optimistic...
Can drive an elise or Caterfield every day, no reason you couldn't use one of these!

crofty1984

15,858 posts

204 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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HorneyMX5 said:
scubadude said:
Zenos said:
Case in point ^^ look at the windscreen angle! Look how it jars awfully with the wing angle and the uncomfortable gap between the two parts, if that doesn't scream embarrassing afterthought to you please go to spec savers.
Luckily looks is a subjective matter and I think it looks brilliant. I actually think the screen improves the line sof the car.
I agree with Horney. I like it.

sideways sid

1,371 posts

215 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Looks like this could become a great car but let's sort out one point; "We've followed the Zenos from the start..." is a massive understatement.

PH has massively publicised Zenos since early concept stage.

Who at PH Towers is a shareholder in Zenos / relative of someone at Zenos / been promised a job as PR manager for Zenos?

Petee

88 posts

284 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I like the look of it. (FWIW I like the look of the X-bow too)

Also seems very sensibly priced, and will hopefully sell by the bucketload.

The very best of luck to them.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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sideways sid said:
Looks like this could become a great car but let's sort out one point; "We've followed the Zenos from the start..." is a massive understatement.

PH has massively publicised Zenos since early concept stage.

Who at PH Towers is a shareholder in Zenos / relative of someone at Zenos / been promised a job as PR manager for Zenos?
banghead Nobody.

After that initial meeting with Ansar PH got the scoop on the car, Zenos taking a punt that we were the audience they wanted to put the car in front of before all others. Given their openness in discussing the challenges in getting a fledgling brand off the ground and the realities of making a success of it we thought it would be interesting to follow the progress of the project and with both press and customers Zenos has been keen to engage.

No denying off the back of this we've formed a close relationship with the Zenos team and have covered the E10 extensively. But we've got equally strong relationships with Caterham, Ariel, Radical and the other brands Zenos will be competing with when the E10 goes on sale.

That's as far as it goes though. No conspiracies. Just an interesting story about a car PHers would appear to have an interest in that we thought we'd like to follow as it develops. Shock horror!

Cheers,

Dan

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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ManOpener said:
I agree entirely. There's an air of Alfa 4C to the side profile of that.
A lot of blindness about today- the 4C for Crying out loud, its hideous! A total abortion of the finest Italian standard... someone will be long in a minute to sing the praises of the Morris Ital.

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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article said:
Jumping in the next thing that strikes you is the amount of space in the cockpit. Even in SV form a Seven can be a squeeze for the more powerfully built track day fanatic - ditto a Radical - and not everyone is going to dig the uniquely thrilling sense of exposure you get in an Atom. The closest comparison is the Lotus 2-Eleven, which isn't entirely surprising given the backgrounds of the blokes who built it. Indeed, the mechanical layout and 2,300mm wheelbase matches that of the Elise platform, the Zenos broader in front track and a substantial 160mm wider than a 2-Eleven - more or less the width of that trademark extruded aluminium spine
I'm not entirely sure whether all that means it's spacious inside, or snug.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Spacious! Given the central spine you're actually on less intimate terms with your passenger than even the Lotus, which may or may not be a good thing according to how personal your relationship!

Cheers,

Dan

mikebradford

2,518 posts

145 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Overall i like it.
Q. Will it be offered with varying types of roll cage, in the same manner as Caterham?
I appreciate the rear already has some form of roll over protection. But will their be some form of cage available ?

sideways sid

1,371 posts

215 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Dan Trent said:
sideways sid said:
Looks like this could become a great car but let's sort out one point; "We've followed the Zenos from the start..." is a massive understatement.

PH has massively publicised Zenos since early concept stage.

Who at PH Towers is a shareholder in Zenos / relative of someone at Zenos / been promised a job as PR manager for Zenos?
banghead Nobody.

After that initial meeting with Ansar PH got the scoop on the car, Zenos taking a punt that we were the audience they wanted to put the car in front of before all others. Given their openness in discussing the challenges in getting a fledgling brand off the ground and the realities of making a success of it we thought it would be interesting to follow the progress of the project and with both press and customers Zenos has been keen to engage.

No denying off the back of this we've formed a close relationship with the Zenos team and have covered the E10 extensively. But we've got equally strong relationships with Caterham, Ariel, Radical and the other brands Zenos will be competing with when the E10 goes on sale.

That's as far as it goes though. No conspiracies. Just an interesting story about a car PHers would appear to have an interest in that we thought we'd like to follow as it develops. Shock horror!

Cheers,

Dan
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying.

braddo

10,464 posts

188 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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scubadude said:
A lot of blindness about today- the 4C for Crying out loud, its hideous! A total abortion of the finest Italian standard... someone will be long in a minute to sing the praises of the Morris Ital.
With styling apparently being so important to you, I would be interested to hear whether styling was a factor in choosing your own vehicles.

davo23

318 posts

152 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I really like it, reminds me of another beautiful car...


Dan Trent

1,866 posts

168 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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sideways sid said:
Fair enough. Thanks for clarifying.
hippy No worries!

Dan

DaveyBoyDave

13 posts

151 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I love the concept and I realise that cars like this are mainly about the driving experience, but for me the looks and sound (in that in-car video anyway) are utterly underwhelming. And if I were treating myself to a brand new dedicated track toy I would expect it to look and sound as good as it goes.

That said, maybe it's better in the flesh. I do sincerely hope it does well - there's little competition for track cars at that price point.

DonkeyApple

55,257 posts

169 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Looks a fun little car. There will always be a place for Caterfields but it is nice to see a more modern looking competitor at this price point. I hope they carve a viable little business out for themselves.

pigeonskirt

506 posts

139 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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braddo said:
scubadude said:
A lot of blindness about today- the 4C for Crying out loud, its hideous! A total abortion of the finest Italian standard... someone will be long in a minute to sing the praises of the Morris Ital.
With styling apparently being so important to you, I would be interested to hear whether styling was a factor in choosing your own vehicles.
Style can't be that important, dude drives a Renault Megane Estate!