Why can't professional drivers..

Why can't professional drivers..

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frumpytrickle

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245 posts

117 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Why can't professional drivers actually drive?

Universally the worst thought of drivers are those that are paid to do it, so why can't they fking just do what they are paid to do?

I'm not a good driver, at all, but that's not my job. I rarely drive now, someone else does that for me, but some people out there make me look like an IAM master.

Ask anyone who they think is the biggest liability in the roads in the UK and once you filter out the racist responses you'll have a solid list containing every possible career involving a drivers license.

WHY!

Ren Esis

419 posts

138 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I read the post as if you were talking about Racing Drivers not Van drivers/taxis etc. I wouldn't call them professional drivers in any case.

jesta1865

3,448 posts

209 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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because some of them are just dense.

i have a mate who trains bus and coach drivers, he'll never win mastermind and says so, but he despairs at some of the drivers he gets to meet.

they had one at the commonwealth games who kept getting lost, despite having had 2 weeks training and passing the written map tests. he got lost with 11 athletes on board one morning!

IanCress

4,409 posts

166 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I imagine bus and taxi drivers start out being all nice and polite, but after a while it grinds them down and they just stop caring!

kambites

67,568 posts

221 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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I think, like most professionals, they learn through experience what corners they can cut without it really mattering.

Of course when a plumber cuts a corner too far, you end up with a wet house; when a driver does, you end up dead.

Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Familiarity breeds contempt.

And you can hardly blame them when they have to deal with all of the mupets we commuters have to deal with every day but they have to do it all day.


zetectommy

21 posts

149 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Why can't regular people drive? It just wears you down getting cut up,having near misses because other road users just don't see a bus..... Pedestrians walking out in front of you and telling you where to go when you sound your horn. Cyclists running red lights then shouting to give them room. Cars overtaking when you are pulling out of a bus stop. Erm oh and usually gotta pee so in a rush yay!!!!! The joys of a bus driver, there is more. I know it's been said before but driving standards are shocking . Rant over......

zetectommy

21 posts

149 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Why can't regular people drive? It just wears you down getting cut up,having near misses because other road users just don't see a bus..... Pedestrians walking out in front of you and telling you where to go when you sound your horn. Cyclists running red lights then shouting to give them room. Cars overtaking when you are pulling out of a bus stop. Erm oh and usually gotta pee so in a rush yay!!!!! The joys of a bus driver, there is more. I know it's been said before but driving standards are shocking . Rant over......

Matt UK

17,698 posts

200 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Like in any profession really; there are crap ones that aren't very good on the best of days and good ones who sometimes have a bad day.

And of course there are good ones who take pride in continuous improvement.

7mike

3,010 posts

193 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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frumpytrickle said:
Universally the worst thought of drivers are those that are paid to do it, so why can't they fking just do what they are paid to do?
I guess you are one of the 36 million who considers yourself qualified to assess the driving skills of others.

btw, in this country it's licence wink so apologies if your whinge is about American drivers.

TurboHatchback

4,160 posts

153 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Depends what you mean by professional drivers. Generally the standard of Lorry drivers in the UK, particularly large lorries is very good IMO. Van drivers are either in a tearing hurry all the time or not really professional drivers but tradesmen that happen to drive from job to job. Taxi drivers are indeed terrible and whilst they require nothing beyond a standard car license they are still technically 'professional drivers'.

frumpytrickle

Original Poster:

245 posts

117 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Yeah one exception actually for lorry drivers (mostly) I am always amazed when I see them down tight streets, especially turning tight corners and parking. Quote incredible sometimes.

Sorry for spelling, not american, not dyslexic just thick.

I see how you'll be getting pissed off dealing with incompetent public drivers but surely a professional should be a bit more errrm professional dealing with situations..

dacouch

1,172 posts

129 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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frumpytrickle said:
Yeah one exception actually for lorry drivers (mostly) I am always amazed when I see them down tight streets, especially turning tight corners and parking. Quote incredible sometimes.

Sorry for spelling, not american, not dyslexic just thick.

I see how you'll be getting pissed off dealing with incompetent public drivers but surely a professional should be a bit more errrm professional dealing with situations..
Tight streets, tight corners and tight parking are easy if you know the size of your vehicle, it get's a little harder when lazy drivers leave parts of their cars poking out or park on corners or bends where they shouldn't.

It always amazes me how car drivers do not understand the size of their vehicle and think they cannot fit through a gap when in reality they have 15cm either side

grumpy52

5,584 posts

166 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Large goods vehicle and passenger vehicle drivers have had further driving tuition, education on laws and regulations and passed further driving tests, they are also under more and more scrutiny from the likes of VOSA .
Other 'professional ' drivers might have passed a basic driving test many years ago , because they do it as a job does not make them professional they just get paid to sit in the front seat and operate controls in something like the correct sequence.

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

127 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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grumpy52 said:
Large goods vehicle and passenger vehicle drivers have had further driving tuition, education on laws and regulations and passed further driving tests, they are also under more and more scrutiny from the likes of VOSA .
Other 'professional ' drivers might have passed a basic driving test many years ago , because they do it as a job does not make them professional they just get paid to sit in the front seat and operate controls in something like the correct sequence.
It does not really matter what vehicle a person drives, or how many miles they do, either very little or huge annual mileages, What matters is their approach to driving. To some, vehicles are just an extension of their white goods line up, and they do not want to put any more than the absolute minimum effort into driving that they feel they can get away with. They don't really care, or acknowledge that there are other roads users, including pedestrians around them. Generally HGV drivers are very good, but some taxi drivers who may do high mileages are absolutely useless when it comes to driving `professionally' Doing `anything' professionally means trying to do the very best a person can achieve on a daily basis. hat is what being a professional means. It does not mean they wont make the occasional mistake, but their professional `attitude' means that such incidents are kept to an absolute minimum. This is true of driving, as it is of any other activity which is carried out `professionally'.

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

140 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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There will always be exceptions, but in general I suspect that if a standard car driving licence is your most sellable qualification or skill set, then you're probably not the most gifted of individuals.

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

127 months

Tuesday 21st October 2014
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jamieduff1981 said:
There will always be exceptions, but in general I suspect that if a standard car driving licence is your most sellable qualification or skill set, then you're probably not the most gifted of individuals.
Unfortunately a standard driving licence, obtained after passing the driving test, may represent the pinnacle of some drivers ability, and it just goes downhill from there. For others obtaining a driving licence, is considered to be just the first step in the process of really learning to drive.
Which way a driver goes after obtaining a licence is down to their attitude. and how `professional' a driver they want to be. Mileage, age, gender etc does not have so much to do with being a professional driver. It has more to do with their wish to drive professionally....or not.

grumpy52

5,584 posts

166 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Does it require an understanding of how a vehicle works to get the best from it ?
I think part of being professional is knowing how your vehicle works and then getting the best from it .
Many I have come across can't even sit in the thing in a comfortable and safe way.

ruff'n'smov

1,092 posts

149 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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frumpytrickle said:
I'm not a good driver, at all, but that's not my job. I rarely drive now, someone else does that for me, but some people out there make me look like an IAM master.


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What your professional driver like ??? I bet he's an exception

frumpytrickle

Original Poster:

245 posts

117 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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ruff'n'smov said:
What your professional driver like ??? I bet he's an exception
Took a while to find him. Not cheap but well worth it. Indeed an exepction, absolutely brilliant. Very very rare, even in his trade.