Car accident with a cyclist

[WinstonWolf]

DoubleSix said:

WinstonWolf said:

DoubleSix said:

WinstonWolf said:

DoubleSix said:

GarryDK said:

Well you are the only one so congratualtions. So every road you go down anyone indicating and you stop/slow down? really? I call bullst of the highest order.

I didn't say stop. But yes, If I see someone indicating and waiting to perform a manoeuvre, particularly crossing my lane I slow, yes.

Fact is cyclists are travelling under their own steam and many are loathe to give up that precious kinetic energy and therefore carry speed when they should probably be scrubbing it.

There would be no need to scrub it if motorists learned how to yield when they should.

There you go again....


Seriously, you do realise you actually illustrating my point with every post?

I'm very anti SMIDSY, the onus should be on everyone to perform correct observation prior to making a manoeuvre. No excuses, no shifting the blame, I'm in favour of increasing driving standards, not making exceptions for st drivers.

If you can't check for approaching vehicles before turning, hand in your licence and get the bus.

With respect, you sound like an accident waiting to happen. Re-read what Kambites wrote about advanced driving and the attitude it attempts to instil.

You are EXACTLY the sort I'm talking about who will ride bolt upright through a dangerous situation because of your hopeless expectations that others will observe your right of way.

I'm actually glad you decide to pop in as you've so perfectly, and repeatedly, demonstrated my point. I couldn't have done it better if I'd logged on under a different username.

You know the bit where I said I automatically assume everyone else is trying to kill me? Oh, you missed that bit, just like you missed the motorcyclist who has right of way.

I think you'd be better off walking if you can't understand the point I'm making.

[DoubleSix]

Your post count alerted me to the fact you were unlikely to concede any ground at all but I confess to being surprised that you can't spot the foolishness you have demonstrated over the last few pages.

[WinstonWolf]

DoubleSix said:

Your post count alerted me to the fact you were unlikely to concede any ground at all but I confess to being surprised that you can't spot the foolishness you have demonstrated over the last few pages.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1454690&i=20&mid=&nmt=

We've got one of your friends in here, doesn't realise that a slip road is a give way junction

[Mave]

DoubleSix said:

Drop the hand wringing and understand the point behind the humour, whether you found it funny or not.

If you want people to listen to your point, you'll need to try a little harder on your people skills. HTH.

[Harji]

can't remember said:

Finish the job next time.;)

You're a moron.

[Sonic]

OP, i had an identical one 5 years ago.

Police, ambulance etc called as the chap appeared to be injured on the floor.

The chap clearly wasn't happy with me when i jumped out apologising with my car stationary in the middle of the road and the nose a few feet over the white line into his path. He'd tried to avoid me and went right, but i was crawling anyway and just hit the brakes stopping instantly, so he hit my passenger side.

His first comment off "you're fking lucky mate, i was coming down here before without my helmet on" grated a little.

Police took a statement, completely my fault given i had clearly turned into his path, despite also no hi-vis, lights, reflectors, parked cars, sun-setting behind the trees, a digital speedometer showing 38 in a 30...

The chap was invisible to me coming down the hill at speed, and i had all the time in the world to look for him before turning, but still didn't see him. Yes, entirely my fault, but i'm still not certain i wouldn't do the same thing again now.

His mate turned up with van and took away his fairly impressive carbon-fibre racing bike pretty quickly. He later claimed £15k from my insurance company for the bike, which appeared to just have a damaged wheel, and injuries although thankful just bumps and bruises from what i was told.

I went on the driving awareness course rather than taking the points.

The best thing i can advise is to just let your insurance company take care of it and hopefully the police aren't involved.

Edited by Sonic on Thursday 23 October 11:12

[paranoid airbag]

DoubleSix said:

GarryDK said:

It still shocks me that some people still manage to turn these situations to the cyclist fault. To the OPs credit he clearly isn’t one of them but there are far too many of them on PH.

It still shocks me how many cyclists deem right of way to be the single most important factor in their decision making. To the OPs credit he didn't kill one of them but there are far too many on the road.

Yeah, there are far too many drivers like the OP on the road.

The difference between pragmatism and victim blaming is when you COMPLETELY IGNORE the person who's legally at fault. If drivers are being negligent because they're not the squishy one, the correct response is to ramp up the penalties until they are as scared.

This is why there's no link between being a driving god and having lower premiums - all the competence in the world counts for nothing if you have the attitude that you're okay because you've got a steel safety cell. Safe drivers realise that.

[v12Legs]

lllnorrislll said:

I don't disagree that it is in the personal interest of the cyclist to make themselves visable on the roads at night by wearing high vis. However should this be extended to all vehicles being painted a lurid fluorescent colour? The cyclist may then not have failed to see the OP?

What makes you think the cyclist failed to see the OP?

[can't remember]

Harji said:

You're a moron.

I may be a moron but I am also a cyclist that regularly commutes 8 miles in to and out of Manchester. I wear full hi-vis kit and have front and rear LED lights, none of which stopped me being worn as a grill mascot by some tt delivering Kingsmill bread.

My post was a response to the somewhat stereotypical 'I wasn't paying attention. Is it my fault?' OP.

I would rather be a moron than a self-righteous,humourless Knob.