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SteveSteveson said:
there is nothing more annoying that having to overtake some wobbly red light jumper and having to put myself at greater risk by moving out in to traffic for the third time as they keep passing me stopped at lights yet cycle so slowly I catch them time and again.
Boils my p*ss that does. I've often said that cyclists only ever seen to upload videos which prove that cyclists have no f
king idea of the rules of the road - this one is particularly ironic tho.
Note: I'm aware there are good and bad cyclists as there are good and bad drivers - but the most militant cyclists do appear to be so unaware of the rules of the road that it's quite scary...
king idea of the rules of the road - this one is particularly ironic tho.Note: I'm aware there are good and bad cyclists as there are good and bad drivers - but the most militant cyclists do appear to be so unaware of the rules of the road that it's quite scary...
AC43 said:
SteveSteveson said:
there is nothing more annoying that having to overtake some wobbly red light jumper and having to put myself at greater risk by moving out in to traffic for the third time as they keep passing me stopped at lights yet cycle so slowly I catch them time and again.
Boils my p*ss that does. The courtesy distance I offered them narrowed each time they did it - 2 more sets of lights and I'd have tattooed one of them's arse with the serial number on my wing mirror ;0
I think the real problem is most people with cameras are the ones going out to look for trouble, at least with cars and cyclists, and should be given a wide birth (Both on the road and socially). Bikers with cameras need just as much of a wide birth (At least on the road), but because they want to record themselves, which means they always have someone to show off too... (There are some people, especially around PH who have cameras in cars and on cycles for the same reasons bikers do, but you know the ones I am talking about).
Also many people make up road rules, on every type of transport, although the funnest one I have ever seen was cycling. A middle age woman stuck in the middle of a road in Oxford shouting at cars that they should be stopping to let her cross. Made even more hilarious by the fact that I could hear her on my bike, but I can bet the car drivers couldn't.
Also many people make up road rules, on every type of transport, although the funnest one I have ever seen was cycling. A middle age woman stuck in the middle of a road in Oxford shouting at cars that they should be stopping to let her cross. Made even more hilarious by the fact that I could hear her on my bike, but I can bet the car drivers couldn't.
Edited by SteveSteveson on Thursday 23 October 15:18
405dogvan said:
I'm too lazy to cycle but I had the car equivalent of that this week - 2 cyclists riding abreast on a busy road - overtake them and reach a slower section/lights etc. and they'd single-file up the inside only to go back 2 abreast for you to overtake them again - and again - and again.
The courtesy distance I offered them narrowed each time they did it - 2 more sets of lights and I'd have tattooed one of them's arse with the serial number on my wing mirror ;0
It's probably at least as annoying for them for you to overtake them and then they have to overtake you again. Or is that somehow different?The courtesy distance I offered them narrowed each time they did it - 2 more sets of lights and I'd have tattooed one of them's arse with the serial number on my wing mirror ;0
Clearly a similar average speed, so you could have saved all that aggro by just driving behind them at their speed.
shred2bits said:
I can't believe how many people are shouting to have bikes regulated, you must been dropped on the head as baby if you think that even has a 1 percent chance of working, ever
Expensive, unworkable, and a solution looking for a problem to solve.Not even the Swiss think it's a good idea ...
AC43 said:
SteveSteveson said:
there is nothing more annoying that having to overtake some wobbly red light jumper and having to put myself at greater risk by moving out in to traffic for the third time as they keep passing me stopped at lights yet cycle so slowly I catch them time and again.
Boils my p*ss that does. Over the past 12 years I'll have made the same journey at least 2,000 times, and it's been really noticeable (because I've been doing the experiments) that overtaking cyclists or pootling along behind them at 10mph really makes absolutely zero difference in the grand scheme of things. There are always more serious impediments to swift progress: in this journey's case, people who don't know the traffic light timings, and the ebb and flow of the academic year.
I can't promise this rule applies to every conceivable journey possible, but I suspect it applies to many more than is commonly supposed.
Edited by to3m on Thursday 23 October 16:43
to3m said:
I can't promise this rule applies to every conceivable journey possible, but I suspect it applies to many more than is commonly supposed.
Yep, my 8 mile commute, predominantly 40 limits, takes 22-30 mins in the car, 27-35 mins cycling. I regularly get overtaken on a hill, then see the same cars 6 miles later...Edited by to3m on Thursday 23 October 16:43
Mave said:
Yep, my 8 mile commute, predominantly 40 limits, takes 22-30 mins in the car, 27-35 mins cycling. I regularly get overtaken on a hill, then see the same cars 6 miles later...
That's a good pace. Mine is 7 miles, takes spot on 30 minutes, or maybe 26-27 if I'm trying to keep up with someone!In the car it's normally 25, but can easily be 40 if there is particularly heavy traffic.
That's one of the best things about cycling: consistent journey times.
v12Legs said:
405dogvan said:
I'm too lazy to cycle but I had the car equivalent of that this week - 2 cyclists riding abreast on a busy road - overtake them and reach a slower section/lights etc. and they'd single-file up the inside only to go back 2 abreast for you to overtake them again - and again - and again.
The courtesy distance I offered them narrowed each time they did it - 2 more sets of lights and I'd have tattooed one of them's arse with the serial number on my wing mirror ;0
It's probably at least as annoying for them for you to overtake them and then they have to overtake you again. Or is that somehow different?The courtesy distance I offered them narrowed each time they did it - 2 more sets of lights and I'd have tattooed one of them's arse with the serial number on my wing mirror ;0
2 - as is then going straight through the red traffic light/crowssing the cars are slowing for
They narrowly missed 2 pedestrians and one car turning right by skipping the lights - they also rode up the inside of a car approaching a narrowing island (is he supposed to check his inside blind-spot for f
kwits??) - but that's OK I guess, they're not damaging the environment and they scrape-off the paintwork easily ;0p.s. it's mildly gaulling that the whole time there was a dedicated cyclepath they could have been using - yes, I know it's not mandatory to use one but riding 2 abreast on a road, holding-up traffic when there's a cycle path is f
kwittery of the highest order really...Edited by 405dogvan on Thursday 23 October 19:28
v12Legs said:
Mave said:
Yep, my 8 mile commute, predominantly 40 limits, takes 22-30 mins in the car, 27-35 mins cycling. I regularly get overtaken on a hill, then see the same cars 6 miles later...
That's a good pace. Mine is 7 miles, takes spot on 30 minutes, or maybe 26-27 if I'm trying to keep up with someone!In the car it's normally 25, but can easily be 40 if there is particularly heavy traffic.
That's one of the best things about cycling: consistent journey times.
405dogvan said:
v12Legs said:
405dogvan said:
I'm too lazy to cycle but I had the car equivalent of that this week - 2 cyclists riding abreast on a busy road - overtake them and reach a slower section/lights etc. and they'd single-file up the inside only to go back 2 abreast for you to overtake them again - and again - and again.
The courtesy distance I offered them narrowed each time they did it - 2 more sets of lights and I'd have tattooed one of them's arse with the serial number on my wing mirror ;0
It's probably at least as annoying for them for you to overtake them and then they have to overtake you again. Or is that somehow different?The courtesy distance I offered them narrowed each time they did it - 2 more sets of lights and I'd have tattooed one of them's arse with the serial number on my wing mirror ;0
2 - as is then going straight through the red traffic light/crowssing the cars are slowing for
Edited by 405dogvan on Thursday 23 October 19:28
But a few points - when you pass someone, it's not a "courtesy distance". That implies its a favour your doing someone, rather than an expected standard of driving. Its what you need to give someone to pass them safely.
Second point, there is absolutely no point overtaking a cyclist who is moving at the average speed of the traffic. Every day on my commute there's a mile of slow moving traffic. I'm trundling along the left at a consistent 15mph and I'll have cars waiting behind me for an overtaking opportunity, blast past at 40, then come to a stanstill 50 yards later. i trundle along at a consistent 15mph, pass the stationary traffic, the traffic will free up a bit, someone will get impatient, blast past me, then come to a standstill 50 yards later.... this goes on for 5 minutes or so and I'll be alongside the same cars I was 5 minutes earlier....
blearyeyedboy said:
Simple two-part solution:
1) Make cycle helmets mandatory.
2) All cycle helmets must have a clearly visible registration mark.
Angry cyclists should be made to wear a cycle helmet with a dildo attached to the top - just so we can spot them easier. Will also help when calling out to warn them of danger ahead...1) Make cycle helmets mandatory.
2) All cycle helmets must have a clearly visible registration mark.
The whole cyclist thing needs looking into as there are so many issues that need sorting
I think there should some obligatory wear ie Helmet and reflective clothing
Lights should be on the bike and illuminated at all times day or night
There should be some form of control over the visibility lighting the cyclists use - some of them are downright dangerous to other road users as they can be blinding in some instances
Also there should be some sort of control over the lycra - it looks ridiculous and an insult to masculinity
I think there should some obligatory wear ie Helmet and reflective clothing
Lights should be on the bike and illuminated at all times day or night
There should be some form of control over the visibility lighting the cyclists use - some of them are downright dangerous to other road users as they can be blinding in some instances
Also there should be some sort of control over the lycra - it looks ridiculous and an insult to masculinity
Excellent!
Someone needs to take the footage and turn it into a GTA-style 'Wasted' clip which seem to be all the rage at the moment...
Forward planning. Trouble with bikes not riding single file is there is no defined 'lane' and because you don't need to be qualified to ride a bicycle (and rightly so) there is no 'right of way' over other cyclists. All about observation and respect for one another. Bloke with the camera though - ha!
Someone needs to take the footage and turn it into a GTA-style 'Wasted' clip which seem to be all the rage at the moment...
Forward planning. Trouble with bikes not riding single file is there is no defined 'lane' and because you don't need to be qualified to ride a bicycle (and rightly so) there is no 'right of way' over other cyclists. All about observation and respect for one another. Bloke with the camera though - ha!
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