Discussion
Mave said:
Diderot said:
jimbop1 said:
shred2bits said:
jimbop1 said:
Good god, number 2's left ball seems inflated.. It's bigger than his...
Lycra does look good though.
To who? Lycra does look good though.
Every time I get into my beemer, I make sure I'm wearing a 3 layer nomex firerproof suit (complete with sponsor logos natch, full face FIA approved helmet, Hans device, gloves, racing boots, drinks bottle and pit to car radio ear piece and mic. Always sets me up nicely for the morning commute.
Next you lot will be popping steroids ... shred2bits said:
I know it's late, but hear me out. If you set foot on the road your bound to get run over, if you don't set foot on the road your still bound to get run over, if you live in the woods you will not get run over. It's quite simple really
Good night
ps lycra is for gayers
Good night
ps lycra is for gayers
What on earth are you on about? Funny though
Mave said:
But a few points - when you pass someone, it's not a "courtesy distance". That implies its a favour your doing someone, rather than an expected standard of driving. Its what you need to give someone to pass them safely.
I was referring to the additional space I give to cyclists/bikers over and above "minimum safe distance" - it was well diluted by the 3rd pass tho - and if they wanted more, riding in single file (as required by the Highway Code in the circumstances) or on the cycle path were both solid options.For the record - they decided to ride onto the pavement eventually - ironically AFTER the cycle path ends and right through a bunch of dog walkers and kids...
Mave said:
Second point, there is absolutely no point overtaking a cyclist who is moving at the average speed of the traffic.
I agree, but it all took place over a 4-5 mile drive which has at least 4 sets of lights, 2 non-traffic-light ped zings and 2 roundabouts - and they were doing about 20mph whereby the limit varies 40-30-40, so I pretty-much did have to pass them (as did the half-a-dozen cars either fore-and-aft of me), over and over.As a former cyclist I know the s
t you have to endure as one, but I feel that some cyclists are mixing a a victim mentality/defensiveness with a bit of "holier than thou" attitude and that bravado that only the unlikeliness of them being prosecuted can cause in a person and it's making them into a massive pain in the arse at times.There's so much talk of maker the roads safer for cyclists - starting with them obeying the rules, having reflectors, lights, a bell/horn and some common-sense would be a good start - we can move on to them being licenced/registered and insured next.
Edited by 405dogvan on Friday 24th October 02:46
J4CKO said:
lord trumpton said:
The whole cyclist thing needs looking into as there are so many issues that need sorting
I think there should some obligatory wear ie Helmet and reflective clothing
Lights should be on the bike and illuminated at all times day or night
There should be some form of control over the visibility lighting the cyclists use - some of them are downright dangerous to other road users as they can be blinding in some instances
Also there should be some sort of control over the lycra - it looks ridiculous and an insult to masculinity
I am am cyclist and cant argue with most of that, it really annoys me seeing people barely illuminated or not all, dressed in black, at night. what goes through their minds ?I think there should some obligatory wear ie Helmet and reflective clothing
Lights should be on the bike and illuminated at all times day or night
There should be some form of control over the visibility lighting the cyclists use - some of them are downright dangerous to other road users as they can be blinding in some instances
Also there should be some sort of control over the lycra - it looks ridiculous and an insult to masculinity
yellowjack said:
lord trumpton said:
The whole cyclist thing needs looking into as there are so many issues that need sorting
I think there should some obligatory wear ie Helmet and reflective clothing
Lights should be on the bike and illuminated at all times day or night
There should be some form of control over the visibility lighting the cyclists use - some of them are downright dangerous to other road users as they can be blinding in some instances
Also there should be some sort of control over the lycra - it looks ridiculous and an insult to masculinity
Are you for serious?I think there should some obligatory wear ie Helmet and reflective clothing
Lights should be on the bike and illuminated at all times day or night
There should be some form of control over the visibility lighting the cyclists use - some of them are downright dangerous to other road users as they can be blinding in some instances
Also there should be some sort of control over the lycra - it looks ridiculous and an insult to masculinity
In Feb this year I was put out of action for FIVE MONTHS by a complete f
kwit in a van. He drove into the side of me while I was ON a roundabout. Near perfect visibility, uninterrupted view of all approaches, broad daylight. My bike was fitted with reflectors in excess of those required by RVLRs, and was also fitted with lights. One front, set to flashing. Two at the rear, one flashing, one constant. I was wearing light coloured clothing with high visibility reflective trim and additional neon coloured 'slap-wraps' on my arms and ankles. My head was protected by a bright white cycle helmet.All of that kit was utterly pointless because some moron, who has allegedly passed a vocational driving test, and whose vehicle is easily identifiable by it's registration mark, simply couldn't be arsed to have a proper look before entering said roundabout.
Seriously? I despair of this attitude, blaming cyclists, and calling for ridiculous legislation to be brought into force. There are clearly worded laws against dazzling other ROAD USERS with high beam lights, yet drivers constantly fail to dip their lights for me when I'm on the adjacent cycle path. Apparently it's an offence to drive an unroadworthy vehicle upon the highway, yet every third car seems to be driven with some sort of defective lighting. If the Police cannot deal with f
kwittery from drivers breaking existing laws, what makes you think banning Lycra and forcing cyclists to wear helmets (for which the evidence is, at best, inconclusive) is a good idea.
I wanna be on your planet, dude. You must be on some really good gear if you really believe the dirge that you've written My solution? Ban anyone from even taking a driving lesson until they've first undertaken a mandatory minimum observed period of training on the roads on a bicycle. Even the bigfatfatties of this world. At a stroke we could rid the roads of the terminally selfish who cannot imagine how it feels to ride a bicycle in traffic, with the added bonus of (possibly) making a dent in the growing obesity crisis. Nobody who was too much of a massive girl-pants would be forced to ride with all the nasty cars, of course. They would be given an alternative, commonly known as 'public transport'. Within a generation there should be no-one driving a motor vehicle who hasn't experienced riding a bike, so there'd be more understanding of the space and speed differential issues faced by each group. Exceptions (simulations or theory training) would be needed for genuinely disabled potential drivers, but EVERYONE else would have to undertake the mandatory 'cycling log book' training before being let loose in a car.
Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
lord trumpton said:
Look softlad, just because you took a hit doesn't mean the suggestions are pointless. Just calm down and relax before you wet your little shorts.
Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
So following this logic, if someone cuts me up, and I catch up to them, it's OK for me to drag them from their car and beat them to death with the wet end of their own arm?Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
It's OK, fella. Apparently the gubberment want mental health problems to be treated as an equal priority with physical health issues. The community team from your local NHS trust will be along with your meds shortly...
If every motorist took their registratin plates off tomorrow what would happen? how many Police cars do you see on the road? Ihow long do you think it would be before you were stopped? I really hope registration plates for bicycles are made compulsary, first thing I'll do is fk about with the font and the spacing, add a few random dots here and there to make the letters read what I want it to read, reduce the size of the plate, make it barely legible and ride away....
k about with the font and the spacing, add a few random dots here and there to make the letters read what I want it to read, reduce the size of the plate, make it barely legible and ride away.... Bill said:
lord trumpton said:
Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
Really? I assume you don't mean it, so why type it? Absolutely no need.Raise the bar, chap.
But then I realise that I may be associated with an idiot like this and I wonder if I want to be a member incase people think I share these warped and offensive views.
Happily, I am going on a bike ride with 10 or 12 other PHers tomorrow and I will realise that people like Lord trumpton are indeed the minority and their views and posts should be either challenged and rubbished or simply ignored.
Steve
pablo said:
If every motorist took their registratin plates off tomorrow what would happen? how many Police cars do you see on the road? Ihow long do you think it would be before you were stopped? I really hope registration plates for bicycles are made compulsary, first thing I'll do is fk about with the font and the spacing, add a few random dots here and there to make the letters read what I want it to read, reduce the size of the plate, make it barely legible and ride away....
We are going to put registration plates on a childs bike lol. It would be too difficult and impossible to inforce. k about with the font and the spacing, add a few random dots here and there to make the letters read what I want it to read, reduce the size of the plate, make it barely legible and ride away.... I posted this link on another thread, but also relevant here. "Risky" cycling is only responsible for a small % of cycling injuries/fatalities. (as noted above, the driver is at sole fault in 70%+ of driver-cyclist collisions)
So even if cyclists magically started behaving perfectly, it wouldn't make that much difference.
http://road.cc/content/news/12065-report-dft-casua...
It seems to me that bad driving has been normalised, yet bad cycling is endlessly picked over and criticised.
I don't condone bad cycling, but at the end of the day they are a vanishingly small danger to anyone but themselves, and with finite resources we should be concentrating on where the majority of the danger comes from.
So even if cyclists magically started behaving perfectly, it wouldn't make that much difference.
http://road.cc/content/news/12065-report-dft-casua...
It seems to me that bad driving has been normalised, yet bad cycling is endlessly picked over and criticised.
I don't condone bad cycling, but at the end of the day they are a vanishingly small danger to anyone but themselves, and with finite resources we should be concentrating on where the majority of the danger comes from.
GarryDK said:
pablo said:
If every motorist took their registratin plates off tomorrow what would happen? how many Police cars do you see on the road? Ihow long do you think it would be before you were stopped? I really hope registration plates for bicycles are made compulsary, first thing I'll do is fk about with the font and the spacing, add a few random dots here and there to make the letters read what I want it to read, reduce the size of the plate, make it barely legible and ride away....
We are going to put registration plates on a childs bike lol. It would be too difficult and impossible to inforce. k about with the font and the spacing, add a few random dots here and there to make the letters read what I want it to read, reduce the size of the plate, make it barely legible and ride away.... lord trumpton said:
Look softlad, just because you took a hit doesn't mean the suggestions are pointless. Just calm down and relax before you wet your little shorts.
Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
You're a pleasant chap arent you, if it's not your utterings of casual racism or your views on the royals it's randomly insulting people. Do you work for the Daily Mail?Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
J4CKO said:
What comes across from these threads is that some drivers seem to perceive cyclists as a different species, one lower down the food chain and then make statements that further seem to dehumanize anybody who may be on a bike.
Probably the same type as the prick who nearly took me out the other day the fat lazy retard.lord trumpton said:
Look softlad, just because you took a hit doesn't mean the suggestions are pointless. Just calm down and relax before you wet your little shorts.
Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
Hey look, it's an idiot. Oh, yes, the ramblings...they are so consistent.Reading the utterings above it sounds like he should have gone around again and finished you off you whinging foxturd
lord trumpton said:
I have also been about to overtake a cyclist, giving plenty of room only to find they didn't fancy the look of a pothole and swerve out in front just as I am trying to pass.
The point I'm making here is that it always seems to be reported that the drivers of cars are the ones at fault but due to the recent explosion of new cyclists there are a lot of risk takers in lycra on the roads these days with some pretty shoddy cycling.
I think that sums it up. Why people think it's a bit of a laugh mocking cyclists being in danger is beyond me.The point I'm making here is that it always seems to be reported that the drivers of cars are the ones at fault but due to the recent explosion of new cyclists there are a lot of risk takers in lycra on the roads these days with some pretty shoddy cycling.
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