RE: Shed Of The Week: Rover Metro
Discussion
OpulentBob said:
So, 5 pages of posts with maybe 50% loving and 50% hating, yet the hateful s
tebox/lovable appreciating classic (delete as appropriate) is still for sale.
Come on, powerful richboy PHers with acres of land and triple garages. Money where your mouths are... who would dare buy it and run it til the MOT ran out?
I'll put £50 in if I can start the fire. tebox/lovable appreciating classic (delete as appropriate) is still for sale. Come on, powerful richboy PHers with acres of land and triple garages. Money where your mouths are... who would dare buy it and run it til the MOT ran out?
yonex said:
OpulentBob said:
So, 5 pages of posts with maybe 50% loving and 50% hating, yet the hateful stebox/lovable appreciating classic (delete as appropriate) is still for sale.
Come on, powerful richboy PHers with acres of land and triple garages. Money where your mouths are... who would dare buy it and run it til the MOT ran out?
I'll put £50 of petrol in if I can start the fire. tebox/lovable appreciating classic (delete as appropriate) is still for sale. Come on, powerful richboy PHers with acres of land and triple garages. Money where your mouths are... who would dare buy it and run it til the MOT ran out?
I don't understand all the hatred at all, the Metro was just another cheap hatchback, no worse than its competition. Would I buy one? God no but then I wouldn't buy an 80s Fiesta or Nova either.
I can fully understand not particularly liking them but "frothing at the mouth" type hatred just smells of a rather pathetic attempt to fit in with the crowd.
I can fully understand not particularly liking them but "frothing at the mouth" type hatred just smells of a rather pathetic attempt to fit in with the crowd.
i had 3 of these - absolutely loved them. As a learner/inexperienced car, they were great, handled really well, stopped really well, would skin just about anything in first gear off the lights, robust and i could get lady friends to put their feet on the headlining - happy days in a metro....(mentally drifts off to a better time........)
kambites said:
I don't understand all the hatred at all, the Metro was just another cheap hatchback, no worse than its competition. Would I buy one? God no but then I wouldn't buy an 80s Fiesta or Nova either.
I can fully understand not particularly liking them but "frothing at the mouth" type hatred just smells of a rather pathetic attempt to fit in with the crowd.
Did you own one? I did, and a couple of the others you have mentioned and you would be wrong. There was a good deal of difference between the 205, Nova, Fiesta and Metro. I can fully understand not particularly liking them but "frothing at the mouth" type hatred just smells of a rather pathetic attempt to fit in with the crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kFJRc5AQ
yonex said:
Did you own one?
No, I'm too young, but my parents did. It was fine. They had a Maestro too, which was also utterly reliable despite pretty much no basic maintenance. At least until I snapped the cam-belt just after I started driving (I think it was several years over-due).
Not sure about the vitriol for the poor car. It's a reasonable buy at a grand for somebody. It's hardly 'speed matters' though, but I guess we've dropped that tagline.
I drove about in an ex's one of these a while ago. It was genuinely a small car (although 3 door), and so it was good fun from a chuckability perspective. More power, more brakes and more tyre would have made things more fun, but it wasn't dreadful.
I also had the diesel version of it myself as a station car. That was really horrid. I crashed it into a ditch probably doing about 50mph - bounced out again backwards. Car dead, occupants shaken, but fine.
I'm disappointed because I want SOTW to have me thinking 'really? you can get one of those for a grand?'. Not 'yeah, that's about a grands worth, but there's feck all way I'm looking through the classifieds for another one like that'
I drove about in an ex's one of these a while ago. It was genuinely a small car (although 3 door), and so it was good fun from a chuckability perspective. More power, more brakes and more tyre would have made things more fun, but it wasn't dreadful.
I also had the diesel version of it myself as a station car. That was really horrid. I crashed it into a ditch probably doing about 50mph - bounced out again backwards. Car dead, occupants shaken, but fine.
I'm disappointed because I want SOTW to have me thinking 'really? you can get one of those for a grand?'. Not 'yeah, that's about a grands worth, but there's feck all way I'm looking through the classifieds for another one like that'
I had one of these a few years ago. It was given to us and my memory of it is that it is the only car that tried to kill me.
The road was wet and as I was driving into a bend in the road I turned the wheel to follow the road. The wheel was steering to the right, the wheels were pointing right but the Metro decided that it wanted to go straight on. I managed to wiggle the wheel enough to get the car turning properly.
The road was wet and as I was driving into a bend in the road I turned the wheel to follow the road. The wheel was steering to the right, the wheels were pointing right but the Metro decided that it wanted to go straight on. I managed to wiggle the wheel enough to get the car turning properly.
OpulentBob said:
Can you send me a link to those rose tinted specs you're wearing? 
No rose-tinted specs. Rust aside, it was built like a bloody tank, it handled as well as any big heavy(ish - 1270kg) rear-drive saloon I've driven and, at a steady 70mph, despite it pulling 3000rpm thanks to the low-geared 4-speed 'box, the loudest thing in the cabin was the clock. The engine was just a distant hum.yonex said:
This is why I love PH, the comments sometimes are just so utterly ridiculous.
Not ridiculous - see above. Have you even had a V8-engined P6? Mine was my daily runner 1984-1992, put 86000 miles on it in that time and loved almost every one of them (the clutch was a royal pain in the arse in slow-moving traffic...).zeppelin101 said:
They are brand new cars, not modified originals already in the marketplace.
Right. I understand Eagle often use rotten barn-find donors for theirs, but if Jaguar's lightweights are all-new, any reason why Peugeot couldn't do the same with the 205 GTI?kambites said:
I don't understand all the hatred at all, the Metro was just another cheap hatchback, no worse than its competition. Would I buy one? God no but then I wouldn't buy an 80s Fiesta or Nova either.
I can fully understand not particularly liking them but "frothing at the mouth" type hatred just smells of a rather pathetic attempt to fit in with the crowd.
As I've said already, the Metro was a hateful horror when new and only got more horrible with age. The Peugeot 205 was an utter revelation by comparison.I can fully understand not particularly liking them but "frothing at the mouth" type hatred just smells of a rather pathetic attempt to fit in with the crowd.
RoverP6B said:
As I've said already, the Metro was a hateful horror when new and only got more horrible with age. The Peugeot 205 was an utter revelation by comparison.
Each to their own, I suppose. That's certainly not my experience at all. Put me in an entry level version of each of the cars in that market sector in the late 80s with all the badges covered up and I don't think I could tell you which I was driving; the exception being the Vauxhall Nova was absolutely horrible. Edited by kambites on Monday 27th October 14:54
kambites said:
Each to their own, I suppose. That's certainly not my experience at all. Put me in an entry level version of each of the cars in that market sector in the late 80s with all the badges covered up and I don't think I could tell you which I was driving; the exception being the Vauxhall Nova was absolutely horrible.
But you would. The 205 rode the best and had the typical wierdly French 'zingy' motor, best steering and loose gearbox. The Nova's OHC was smooth and generally the car felt much bigger than it was. The Fiesta always had weird steering, but the best gearbox and the Metro had the bumpiest ride, shortest gearing and the A series sounded...well, like an A series does. Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 27th October 14:54
A real fanboy
dbdb said:
They're no worse in an accident than any other small car from the early 1980s, and better than some.
Maybe that's the Metro's problem - that it went on too long. They were as old as the hills by this one's time: the Metro is a classic car now really.
I like them. More so the early ones, but even this car with its ever so posh interior can find a place in my affections. I learned to drive in a Metro. My driving instructor had one. It was a lovely car to drive, so much nicer than my mother's Golf, which it bettered on the road in every way other than speed.
A good Shed of the week. I seem to be rather off-message with this, though.
Maybe that's the Metro's problem - that it went on too long. They were as old as the hills by this one's time: the Metro is a classic car now really.
I like them. More so the early ones, but even this car with its ever so posh interior can find a place in my affections. I learned to drive in a Metro. My driving instructor had one. It was a lovely car to drive, so much nicer than my mother's Golf, which it bettered on the road in every way other than speed.
A good Shed of the week. I seem to be rather off-message with this, though.
yonex said:
But you would. The 205 rode the best and had the typical wierdly French 'zingy' motor, best steering and loose gearbox. The Nova's OHC was smooth and generally the car felt much bigger than it was. The Fiesta always had weird steering, but the best gearbox and the Metro had the bumpiest ride, shortest gearing and the A series sounded...well, like an A series does.
Again not my experience. I drove a 1.1 (or it might have been a 1.0) 205 quite a bit and it was horrible - ridiculously under-damped to the point of inducing travel sickness even in the driver. The Nova's chassis was reasonable, but they seemed to have done their best to put the pedals on the opposite side of the car to the steering wheel. The mk1 Fiesta felt like it was made of tin-foil, even compared to the competition (including the Metro) Of all of the changes in automotive design and manufacture, I think the increase in quality of small cars is by far the biggest eye-opener, whatever models you look at.
Edited by kambites on Monday 27th October 15:08
Escort Si-130 said:
FPMSL
I'd sooner be in a metro than a similarly lightweight Citroen AX....KTF said:
FWDRacer said:
have the last laugh.
Until you hit something or something hits you.Different times people, let's not be silly with obvious pictures that are going to prove nothing. Let's see the fiesta/nova/ax/205 pictures for some sort of balance.
kambites said:
Again not my experience. I drove a 1.1 (or it might have been a 1.0) 205 quite a bit and it was horrible - ridiculously under-damped to the point of inducing travel sickness even in the driver. The Nova's chassis was reasonable, but they seemed to have done their best to put the pedals on the opposite side of the car to the steering wheel. The mk1 Fiesta felt like it was made of tin-foil, even compared to the competition (including the Metro)
Of all of the changes in automotive design and manufacture, I think the increase in quality of small cars is by far the biggest eye-opener, whatever models you look at.
The Mk1 Fiesta was designed in the 70's. Even so the 1.1 that my friend had rang rings around my almost new '85 'City X'...I actually preferred the Mini I had before it.Of all of the changes in automotive design and manufacture, I think the increase in quality of small cars is by far the biggest eye-opener, whatever models you look at.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 27th October 15:08
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