Scotland to reduce Drink Drive limit.

Scotland to reduce Drink Drive limit.

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Beer Man

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249 posts

113 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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From the BBC so may not be true!

Effectively 1 pint or one glass of wine COULD put you over the limit.

Is this too severe or a step in the right direction?

"He told BBC Scotland the plans to change the drink-drive limit had "broad support" "
I'm guessing they didn't ask anyone in Glasgeeee then? biggrin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...

Jazzy Jefferson

728 posts

140 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Beer Man said:
From the BBC so may not be true!

Effectively 1 pint or one glass of wine COULD put you over the limit.

Is this too severe or a step in the right direction?

"He told BBC Scotland the plans to change the drink-drive limit had "broad support" "
I'm guessing they didn't ask anyone in Glasgeeee then? biggrin

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-pol...
Very much a step in the right direction.

LasseV

1,754 posts

132 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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No it isn't. Hasn't solved any problems in here.

surveyor

17,767 posts

183 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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so the people over the limit who ignore the limit will be even more over the limit and ignoring the limit.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Gesture politics of the worst kind (here's the problem with devolution - people granted the power to change things will change things just to make their mark) but the bigger picture is that this is another small step towards the prohibition of alcohol that the zealots want.

Edited by r11co on Friday 24th October 12:24

J4CKO

41,282 posts

199 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Didn't they vote to stay part of the UK, where does changing Drink Drive rules fit in with that ?

I think the current rules are sensible, it isn't the person who has a glass of wine with dinner that is the problem, it is those who get bladdered and drive that are, or those that chance it after four pints.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

205 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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An oldy but still relevant: Height Kills!

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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J4CKO said:
I think the current rules are sensible, it isn't the person who has a glass of wine with dinner that is the problem, it is those who get bladdered and drive that are, or those that chance it after four pints.
yes

...but in case you hadn't noticed there are multiple propaganda campaigns going on elsewhere trying to brainwash the populace into believing that the "person who has a glass of wine with dinner" is just as much the problem.

chrispmartha

15,360 posts

128 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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It's a nonsense, this would only punish the people who don't 'drink drive' as it were.

How will this stop the kind of person that would drink drive, if they don't care now they're not going to care if the limit is lower.

r11co

6,244 posts

229 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Mr Will said:
An oldy but still relevant: Height Kills!
Good analogy, but I think this time it goes a bit further. I actually see this move deferring the problem as it targets the moderate drinker.

Those who do have the mid-week glass of wine are now seeing the window of opportunity to be a respectful drinker and stay legal closing, so will have to get their drinking time in somewhere else - more weekend binging and public disorder.

Of course they could give up completely, which is what a load of minority pressure groups who are steering government policy are after.

Phatboy317

801 posts

117 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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They say they want to put the limit in line with the rest of the EU.
Few people would complain about that, as long as they also changed the punishment to be in line with the rest of the EU.

What's the bet they're going to catch a lot more "morning after" drivers - they'll probably make them a specific target.

s2kjock

1,676 posts

146 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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The IAM commentator I read on the media seemed to think this was not helpful due to the lack of evidence that drink drive RTCs were caused by those driving between the proposed new limit and the existing limit.

If there is evidence, I'd be keen to see it.

Might have more of an impact on morning after drinking than anything else - will Scottish Highland driving trips need to be a bit more sedated in the evenings going forward just to be on the safe side?

Mr Will

13,719 posts

205 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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r11co said:
Mr Will said:
An oldy but still relevant: Height Kills!
Good analogy, but I think this time it goes a bit further. I actually see this move deferring the problem as it targets the moderate drinker.

Those who do have the mid-week glass of wine are now seeing the window of opportunity to be a respectful drinker and stay legal closing, so will have to get their drinking time in somewhere else - more weekend binging and public disorder.

Of course they could give up completely, which is what a load of minority pressure groups who are steering government policy are after.
Worse than that, will it reduce compliance with the law? In the same way that an SP30 is no longer seen as a big deal, could the same happen with drink-driving?

Dog Star

16,079 posts

167 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Since we've got amongst the safest roads in the world - astonishingly so given our traffic density - shouldn't other countries (eg France) be RAISING their drink drive limit to the same as ours.

It's all soundbite politics - all made worse (you see them on PH) by the "one drink is too many" sheep.

I'll tell you what - if it was raining I'd be far more comfortable sharing the roads with people who were driving around on a set of Continentals after two pints than people who were stone-cold sober on a set of LingLongs.

It's just such a load of bks.

heebeegeetee

28,591 posts

247 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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J4CKO said:
I think the current rules are sensible, it isn't the person who has a glass of wine with dinner that is the problem, it is those who get bladdered and drive that are, or those that chance it after four pints.
+1.

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

122 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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[quote=I'll tell you what - if it was raining I'd be far more comfortable sharing the roads with people who were driving around on a set of Continentals after two pints than people who were stone-cold sober on a set of LingLongs.


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its rare I'd bother to quote someone else: but did you really think and then write that statement.

truly amazing.



paulwirral

3,104 posts

134 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Years ago a mate of mine was knocked of his vintage motorbike , the guy driving the truck admitted to having a drink and passed a breath test , go figure .
I can't see the point of having one pint or a glass of wine and risking having that on my conscience for the rest of my life .

Speed Badger

2,667 posts

116 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Can anyone explain why we have a drink drive limit anyway?

Why not just make it zero? You either drink or you don't, no grey areas or 'I might be ok if I just have one', or 'It will be ok if I have 2 pints as I'll be eating in a bit."

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

203 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Speed Badger said:
Can anyone explain why we have a drink drive limit anyway?

Why not just make it zero? You either drink or you don't, no grey areas or 'I might be ok if I just have one', or 'It will be ok if I have 2 pints as I'll be eating in a bit."
Used a hand wash in a hospital?

12 month ban


alcohol based

mike13

715 posts

181 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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Speed Badger said:
Can anyone explain why we have a drink drive limit anyway?

Why not just make it zero? You either drink or you don't, no grey areas or 'I might be ok if I just have one', or 'It will be ok if I have 2 pints as I'll be eating in a bit."
I use mouthwash daily, i'd be over a zero limit.