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So the urge to do another road trip is great.We did 2000 miles around the alps last year and would like to do the top of Scotland soon.Last year we did the road trip in a porsche 911 carrera S and the car was perfect for the trip.A house move later and the sale of the 911 for a practical daily 62 plate fabia vrs.Now the time has come to trade it in.The best deal I am getting currently is from bmw on a used z4 coupe the question being is this a good choice as a drivers car or should I look elsewhere.Max budget including my fabia is 12k
macky17 said:
Have owned both a z4 roadster and a coupe. You do miss the convertible roof but otherwise the coupe is better in every way - better chassis, better steering, better handling and gorgeous, especially with a set of csl alloys. Evo don't give it 5 stars for nothing.
budget max 12k and I did read the evo review kind of swayed me toward it.macky17 said:
Have owned both a z4 roadster and a coupe. You do miss the convertible roof but otherwise the coupe is better in every way - better chassis, better steering, better handling and gorgeous, especially with a set of csl alloys. Evo don't give it 5 stars for nothing.
Pretty sure it was never a 5* Evo car, I quite fancy one at some point but iirc they were not that well reviewed, even the Z4MC. (and that has better (hydraulic) steering and (non runflat) ride plus that S54 engine)Seeing as you've enjoyed a 911 what about the Boxster? Has to be the most highly rated sports car at that money, just need to be careful to get a good one.
Spend 5k on a well sorted Honda Integra DC2 or a bit more on a DC5, both very reliable, cheap to maintain and run. Nissan 350z might also be worth looking at, you'd get a mint later 313bhp example for well under 12k.
- *edit*** meant to also add the s2000 to the mix.
Edited by cat220 on Saturday 25th October 21:01
danp said:
Pretty sure it was never a 5* Evo car, I quite fancy one at some point but iirc they were not that well reviewed, even the Z4MC. (and that has better (hydraulic) steering and (non runflat) ride plus that S54 engine)
Seeing as you've enjoyed a 911 what about the Boxster? Has to be the most highly rated sports car at that money, just need to be careful to get a good one.
You're right I just looked it up - it was a 4.5 star car. Still rated higher than the overly soft m version.Seeing as you've enjoyed a 911 what about the Boxster? Has to be the most highly rated sports car at that money, just need to be careful to get a good one.
Boxster. How will he know its a good one? Engines let go with little regard to history and condition.
cat220 said:
Spend 5k on a well sorted Honda Integra DC2 or a bit more on a DC5, both very reliable, cheap to maintain and run. Nissan 350z might also be worth looking at, you'd get a mint later 313bhp example for well under 12k.
Gotta be rwd surely. I owned a dc5 too and while fun it isn't a sportscar. - *edit*** meant to also add the s2000 to the mix.
Edited by cat220 on Saturday 25th October 21:01
macky17 said:
cat220 said:
Spend 5k on a well sorted Honda Integra DC2 or a bit more on a DC5, both very reliable, cheap to maintain and run. Nissan 350z might also be worth looking at, you'd get a mint later 313bhp example for well under 12k.
Gotta be rwd surely. I owned a dc5 too and while fun it isn't a sportscar. - *edit*** meant to also add the s2000 to the mix.
Edited by cat220 on Saturday 25th October 21:01
macky17 said:
Gotta be rwd surely. I owned a dc5 too and while fun it isn't a sportscar.
If your definition of a sport car includes being RWD than by definition the DC5 isn't a sports car.Howver, it's more of a sports car than many many RWD sports cars that I have driven though.
And surely the word sport refers to motorsport, which is closely related to circuit and it's far better a track car than many many RWD "sports" road cars.
macky17 said:
You're right I just looked it up - it was a 4.5 star car. Still rated higher than the overly soft m version.
Boxster. How will he know its a good one? Engines let go with little regard to history and condition.
"overly soft m version"?! None are soft IME, the Z4M/C is considered a much better steer than non M, but would have to be very leggy for 12k.Boxster. How will he know its a good one? Engines let go with little regard to history and condition.
Ref Boxster - not sure which versions are "safe", perhaps one from a well known specialist/rebuilder with warranty...
How about an E46 M3? Great sporty GT car, fantastic engine without the Porsche woes.
Edited by danp on Sunday 26th October 00:08
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