Is there a car that no-one on PH hates?

[kayzee]

This has got to be a joke

[Fastdruid]

RichB said:

irocfan said:

g3org3y said:

irocfan said:

philmots said:

Couple of more modern examples..

fk no - bland bland bland

And don't tell me, it sounds st too right?

no idea - they generally don't register with me.

I can concur with that. I know it's a BMW 3 series but that's all. There's so many about and the way people refer to them all by E-numbers is rather off-putting.

Is it a 320d or 335d [remapped]?

[walm]

RichB said:

can concur with that. I know it's a BMW 3 series but that's all. There's so many about and the way people refer to them all by E-numbers is rather off-putting.

In the E-number defence it is just so you can tell which version you have since they are all very different.

Many other brands have this too...
Porsche: 996 vs 993 vs 964 etc...
Lotus: S1, S2, S3
Audi: B7, B8
Merc: W124, dunno the others
VW Golf: MkV MkVI
Mitsubishi: Evo MCMXCIX Ltd C*nT or whatever

[RichB]

kayzee said:

This has got to be a joke

Nope, as hard as it is to believe there are people on Pistionheads who are indifferent towards BMWs

[RobM77]

This is increasingly the way on PH of late and it's why my posting and reading on this forum has tailed off in the last few years. People seem to value style, branding, marketing image and rarity over substance and I feel that makes conversations rather shallow and boring.

[lockhart flawse]

In fact there are people who are indifferent to anything German, monochrome or white, diesel with a black interior.

I have said it before but to me they are today's Cortinas, Vectras or whatever.

[lockhart flawse]

My suggestion is the TVR Griffith.

[r11co]

MarshPhantom said:

W124 Mercedes

Rustbuckets - been found out for being not as good as everyone thought they were.

Now, W123 is a different story....

[anonymous-user]

irocfan said:

fk no - bland bland bland

A CSL bland, are you sure you're on the right website?

[Beer Man]

yonex said:

A CSL bland, are you sure you're on the right website?

A piece of buttered toast looks more interesting than a tarted up 3 series. Tastier too.

[Strawman]

ecsrobin said:

What about a Plymouth Superbird, who doesn't love the biggest spoiler known to man.

The looks could be described as an acquired taste

[Leins]

yonex said:

irocfan said:

fk no - bland bland bland

A CSL bland, are you sure you're on the right website?

I tend to drive with the windows down to better appreciate the blandness

There's a tough audience for this thread, and one might even think that it's geared towards the contrarians amongst us

Beer Man said:

A piece of buttered toast looks more interesting than a tarted up 3 series. Tastier too.

And the trolls!


Is PH getting worse by the day?

Edited by Leins on Wednesday 29th October 14:56

[Beer Man]

Leins said:

And the trolls!


Is PH getting worse by the day?

Edited by Leins on Wednesday 29th October 14:56

So because someone thinks that a tarted up 3 series is bland that makes them a troll does it? I see. PH, "where everyone must WORSHIP bmw or you're wrong"

[irocfan]

yonex said:

irocfan said:

fk no - bland bland bland

A CSL bland, are you sure you're on the right website?

yes bland - show a non-motoring enthusiast a 316 and an M3 and they'll say "but they look the same"... BLAND! I'll admit that they (316 vs M3)do look somewhat different, but not enough... it's virtually a Q-car. Bland

Edited by irocfan on Wednesday 29th October 16:22

[RichB]

yonex said:

A CSL bland, are you sure you're on the right website?

Shorts and a T-shirt, still at least he's got racing gloves on

p.s. I agree the engine does sound good

[T1berious]

E46 M3 CSL was never going to get a populist vote! Read the thread title

Sheesh, even an E30 M3 Evo will get some hate here

That Stratos however is universal love all over, good shout

[Beer Man]

I have to HATE the Stratos.

Nothing about the car itself but the sheer fact that when a former customer of mine ( knowing my then love of all things Italian and not just the cars) chucked me the keys to his one ( if it was a replica it was a st hot one ) and suggested we take it for a spin.

Great.

Getting in was a feat in itself, which is where it stopped being funny. Due to the rather lengthy length of my lengthy legs I couldn't even shut the bloody door without prebooking a knee replacement op.

Bitterly disappointed, therefore no love at all for that thing. I wanted to love it, I really did.

[TWPC]

"Is there a car that no-one on PH hates?"

Tricky; PH is a broad church and lots of opinionated geeks in the congregation. Might you get closest to an answer by suggesting something very obscure?

Since reading about it in Supercar Classics quite a lot of years ago, the Pegaso Z102 has always stuck in my mind...
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1432.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pegaso_Z-102

[RobM77]

Beer Man said:

Leins said:

And the trolls!


Is PH getting worse by the day?

Edited by Leins on Wednesday 29th October 14:56

So because someone thinks that a tarted up 3 series is bland that makes them a troll does it? I see. PH, "where everyone must WORSHIP bmw or you're wrong"

Not many of us worship BMW (most seem to hate them in fact); it's just that none of us have ever heard an M3 CSL called 'bland' before I'm not a fan of Fords or Vauxhalls, but I wouldn't call the Focus RS or VXR8 'bland'!

Incidentally, are you implying that the M3 is just cosmetically different (i.e. 'tarted up' as you say) to the standard 3 series? That might explain things. If so, then that's not true - the M division fit entirely different suspension to it (and I mean different suspension, not just different springs and dampers), a totally different rear diff and the engine is quite a lot different (and subjectively feels and sounds like a different engine altogether). There's some interesting tech docs on google if you search.

As far as I'm concerned, anyone making a front engined rear drive practical daily driver in this day and age is to applauded, because all the pressures from the buying public are pointing towards cheaper more spacious front drive cars. You may not like certain things about BMWs, but in a world of wobbly front wheel drive boxes, at least someone cares about handling and, judging by the 135i, 330i, 335i, M3 etc, they care about performance too. Sure, I prefer my Lotus to drive, anyone sane would, but like most people I need a 4 seater practical car and I'm just jolly glad I can make a choice that handles well, because it's handling I care about above all else. That's not worship, it's just a case of "what else would I buy?". I can't answer that question really - I don't know what else I would buy with my criteria.

[ecsrobin]

Strawman said:

ecsrobin said:

What about a Plymouth Superbird, who doesn't love the biggest spoiler known to man.

The looks could be described as an acquired taste

An acquired taste definitely, but I'm sure taste goes out the window when you walk out the front door and fire up the superbird!