Is there a car that no-one on PH hates?

[MarshPhantom]

Mr Gear said:

white_goodman said:

Mission impossible? The petrolhead sacrilege thread was a very interesting read and it seems that not everyone likes Ferraris, Porsches, Astons and MX5s! Does such a car exist that everyone on PH likes it at least a little bit (or at least doesn't hate it)? Now, it obviously can't be an SUV/estate/convertible or a BMW/Audi or a diesel or French!

Here's a few suggestions (I've thought about them in terms of driven wheels):

FWD

I've avoided all the hot hatches and plumped for the humble mk1 Focus petrol (not the ST or RS though).



Practical, reliable, cheap to run, a decent steer, still looks great IMHO and available for shed money now. Does cheap shed motoring get any better? Surely even the most ardent FWD hater can't hate a 100bhp shopping hatch for what it is? Possibly the most classless car that Ford ever made (I know several wealthy people who have a mk1 Focus on the fleet) and successfully shrugged off the chavvy image of the Escort. I should have bought one instead of the mk4 Golf that I bought. Much better car!

4WD

Surely the RWD fanboys wouldn't object as much to something 4WD?

I was going to suggest the Audi Quattro



as there wasn't so much hate for Audis in the 1980s but I know of at least one person that doesn't like them, so maybe



or



Never read a bad word about the ST205 Celica GT4 on here, although the standard wheels (3-spokers?) were pretty hideous.

RWD

mk2 MR2 Turbo?



NSX?



Classics

Range Rover Classic?



Interceptor?



MkII Jag?



Aston Vantage?



Any other suggestions, as to a car that no-one would hate?

Good suggestions in the original post. Anything too overtly noisy or racy can be considered a bit crass. So the Lancia and Aston are out. However, the NSX oozes class.

Class is something you'd never accuse a TVR or Lotus Carlton of having.

NSX looks very dated.

[ging84]

Matt UK said:

The mk1 Lotus Elise?

hate it

[ging84]

schmalex said:

Series Land Rover

Hate it

[ging84]

I think the best thing to do would be start off with a list of manufacturers any people hate by default and rule them all out

[MC Bodge]

A highly specced, German-badged VAG product with hard, "S-port"suspension, innit.

Edited by MC Bodge on Sunday 26th October 19:00

[1878]

GT86?

[white_goodman]

MarshPhantom said:

NSX looks very dated.

Newer shape then?

[TTmonkey]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Mclaren F1

Never liked them, never wanted one. Vastly overrated.

[white_goodman]

stormy22 said:

I really do not like the focus! So dull and common. Never liked MR2's either...never owned or driven one, so cannot be specific, just don't like the look of them.

What about the '05-09 Mustang, or even the 2010 or 2011 5.0 Mustang, anyone dislike those? I LOVE THEM!

Dull and common seems a bit harsh. The mk1 Focus was about as good and exciting as small, cheap hatches got at the time (even compared to more expensive competition like the Golf and A3) and certainly didn't look like anything else on the market either, although the styling may not be everyone's cup of tea. If we were talking about the mk2 and 3 Focus, then they are distinctly dull and average, so I would certainly agree with you. I genuinely can't think of another FWD that no-one could hate. Perhaps the current UK best-seller?



I like the new-age Mustangs too but some would say that they are a poor facsimile of the real thing.



So maybe that or the GM equivalent would be a good shout?



Is it bad that I prefer the new to the classic Challenger?



V8 muscle cars too noisy though?

[Mr Gear]

MarshPhantom said:

NSX looks very dated.

The Mark II Jag looks dated too, but how anyone could hate it because of that is beyond me.

[Mr Gear]

white_goodman said:

V8 muscle cars too noisy though?

Yep, brash and lacking in class.

If you want the Devil's-advocate answer.

[TooMany2cvs]

Mr Gear said:

white_goodman said:

V8 muscle cars too noisy though?

Yep, brash and lacking in class.

If you want the Devil's-advocate answer.

Surely braking and cornering would be FAR better reasons to dislike or merely be thoroughly ambivalent about them?

[Mr Gear]

TooMany2cvs said:

Surely braking and cornering would be FAR better reasons to dislike or merely be thoroughly ambivalent about them?

You could probably say the handling was lacking in class too. I wouldn't know, not driven one.

[Hrimfaxi]

I pretty much agree with the OP's list there, apart from the classics, my suggestion would be the classic Mini! No one can truly hate those, right? Iconic.

[16plates]

Universally loved - surely?

[Monkeylegend]

3 pages and nobody has mentioned you know what yet.

[B'stard Child]

Hrimfaxi said:

I pretty much agree with the OP's list there, apart from the classics, my suggestion would be the classic Mini! No one can truly hate those, right? Iconic.

Absolutely hate them - worked on one for several years - metal same thickness as bacofoil and the ability to rust in front of your eyes

[TheHound]

Surely the answers is Mercedes Benz SL300 Gullwing

[vournikas]

white_goodman said:

Aston Vantage?

See, a 1980's Vantage on Ronal wheels is something I personally cannot see any car fan hating (and the trade seems to agree, with current asking prices nudging £100k for nice examples).

I can't remember reading anything derisory of consequence on here about these things :

[MG CHRIS]

Monkeylegend said:

3 pages and nobody has mentioned you know what yet.

Yea because an ex PH car journalist slated it and completely missed the point of the car, but when you got 200k Ferraris etc that doesn't surprise me that much. Never liked the guy neither.