RE: MGB GT V8: You Know You Want To

RE: MGB GT V8: You Know You Want To

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bencollins

3,503 posts

205 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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while BL panel alignment was bad, that bonnet line R/L spells pranged.

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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V8250.....Hi, a gorgeous project, but how do you counter what I'd imagine is pretty substantial body flex with a roadster like this ?

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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''Not an issue with the car per se, but that top hose was the first thing my eye went to in the engine bay photo. Coloured hoses are not my favourite thing on any car but they definitely don't suit this and it's made from far too many pieces.
But does the owner care what I think? Thought not. laugh''...................Yes. That's the first thing I noticed too. Looks like a yucky bodge. Better to call out a plumber !!

JaguarsportXJR

235 posts

143 months

Thursday 30th October 2014
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Monty Python said:
budgie smuggler said:
What's the problem with leaf springs?
They turn brown and fall off in the autumn.
Genius. rofl

On a serious note, I'd love to have a go. Before I bought it I'd need to know how hard it is to get some nice chrome bumpers on the go though.

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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unpc]Now this is proper MGB V8 except for the over stuffed seats and blingy wheels. [pic] http://www.britishv8.org/MG/DanMasters/DanMasters-... [/pic said:
wibble... that is lovely! The only thing I could draw issue with is the door-card. AWESOME

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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rogerhudson said:
motco said:
I am entirely sure - it looks like an amateur effort.
That's why the air scoop is on back to front.
isn't that to create some type of vacuum to sget hot air out pdq?

IDrinkPetrol

132 posts

158 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Morris said:
rogerhudson said:
Wasn't the MGB GT Britain's first hatchback? A great idea.
I think the A40 Farina has that claim to fame?
Aston Martin DB2 preceded the A40 Farina (Countryman) by 6 years.

dinkel

26,942 posts

258 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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MC Bodge said:
The suspension and handling of the 1.8 BGT are surprisingly good, especially when lowered to chrome bumper height with associated negative camber.

I don't know what a 200bhp V8 one would be like though

Andrews 230 brake 3.9 kit does a fair job. Almost standard 3.9 with a sorted chassis. Blows lots of bigger bros from the European tracks.

v8250

2,724 posts

211 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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daytona365 said:
V8250.....Hi, a gorgeous project, but how do you counter what I'd imagine is pretty substantial body flex with a roadster like this ?
Hi David, I gave this is some thought to before project start. I've done four things to counteract any theoretical additional body flex without installing a full cage. First, I wanted to maximize engine stability ensuring engine 'drive' was retained within the driveline :. have installed a simple adjustable engine stabilizer bar. Next, if you look closely at the under body pics' you'll see two additional support outriggers towards the front of the car; an MGB has a lot of body movement in this area. Following this is the twin roll hoop [it's now powder coated black, not the scary metallic blue!] this provides good lateral rigidity behind the seat area into the mid section of inner and outer chassis rails/sills and importantly, before the rear suspension area. Lastly, the rear suspension/drive area. One of the good technical advantages with the John Hoyle design is that the rear suspension is mounted within a cage. This means it's the cage that retains torque arc movement[transfer] within the suspension geometry/the cage without transferring this directly to the rear chassis suspension mounts and, importantly, the rear chassis rails. It's not unknown for some conversions to have ripped out their rear suspension mounts due to torque transfer and I didn't want this to happen. If one retains a live rear axle one would logically beef up the front rear suspension mounts and add anti-tramp bars. The car will never be a fire breathing dragon of a project just a fast road car; the engine now puts out around 250bhp. There are some very good GT conversions out there with over 300bhp+ but these guys use full cages. The car will have good road manners as there's bucket loads of torque with good clean acceleration and top end when needed. 0-60 circa' 4.3secs and a calculated top speed of 165mph...though I won't be testing the last figure too often!


Edited by v8250 on Friday 31st October 10:28

soad

32,895 posts

176 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Gorbyrev said:
Oh yes please!
Indeed. {Counts his spare change, oh.)

Richair

1,021 posts

197 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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irocfan said:
rogerhudson said:
motco said:
I am entirely sure - it looks like an amateur effort.
That's why the air scoop is on back to front.
isn't that to create some type of vacuum to sget hot air out pdq?
No. Carb's don't like pressurised, turbulent air around the inlets. Look at many kit/race cars with side draught carbs and you'll see similar ‘backwards’ ducting arrangements. I'd say the scoop is far from amateur and has probably had a reasonable level of thought put in to it!

I do like this but £22k is a bit silly IMO.

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Speedracer329 said:
At that price you would be stupid to overlook a TVR in favour of this.
Oh, and the "bonnet scoop", hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.
was thinking the same .. more power, no rust on the body, better handling, looks better etc etc

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 31st October 2014
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Monty Python said:
It's "faint", not "feint" :-)
You're right, thanks! Duped by the spelling in the ad so apologies for that. Amended now!


Matt

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

218 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Not tracked prepped, and still running at the silly US inspired Rubber bumper ride height, basic omission for that kind of money.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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jason61c said:
If it had a decent v8 fitted instead of a crappy rover one maybe.
Oh yes, that awful crappy Rover V8 engine, only one of the longest-lived and biggest-produced engines in the history of car production... my P6 with the same engine was mechanically bombproof (well, apart from the time I broke a layshaft on reverse gear... but this MGBGT has the stronger 5-speed LT77 box) and made a lovely noise.

garypotter

1,502 posts

150 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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No no no... not for me Im oot

YankeePorker

4,765 posts

241 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Didn't these have a reputation for chassis flex due to the torque of the motor relative to the structural rigidity of the car? It would still be fun, I remember with pleasure driving a tuned B with the four pot, and it could be hung out at will in slower corners!

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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YankeePorker said:
Didn't these have a reputation for chassis flex due to the torque of the motor relative to the structural rigidity of the car? It would still be fun, I remember with pleasure driving a tuned B with the four pot, and it could be hung out at will in slower corners!
Vaguely recall hearing the same. I'd imagine a modern Heritage shell will be stronger.

v8250

2,724 posts

211 months

Saturday 1st November 2014
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RoverP6B said:
YankeePorker said:
Didn't these have a reputation for chassis flex due to the torque of the motor relative to the structural rigidity of the car? It would still be fun, I remember with pleasure driving a tuned B with the four pot, and it could be hung out at will in slower corners!
Vaguely recall hearing the same. I'd imagine a modern Heritage shell will be stronger.
You don't want too stiff a body chassis. If too stiff the body will tear at its weakest point/s. Having a Heritage shell will make no difference unless they stitch weld the seams, which is an option from BMH. More importantly is to ensure the shell you are starting with is in perfect shape, this means solid metal and no rust. Add any additional structural support req'd and then you know the power is not going to do damage. Again, too stiff a shell on a road car and you'll be in trouble. As a test, if any of you have a car with circa' 200bhp...drive along for a few miles and stick your fingers between the upper door/window frame and the roof. You'll be amazed at how much movement there is. If this natural movement is removed it will be transferred to the next weakest point...and you don't want that to be a metal seam.

Hugh stinquer

13 posts

158 months

Sunday 2nd November 2014
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£22k
That's a good chunk to stick in the gravel/armco/hedge....add obstacle where applicable.
Track day car? With that ride height, I think not. Best stick to the MG Owners day and impress your peers.
And on the subject of leaf spring rear suspension, This set up is known as the Hochkiss drive, it twists the axle, flexing the leaf springs (axle tramp) and subsequentially tightens the line during cornering with the torque reaction of the drive but will run wide when decelerating which can be ok until you have to back off the power mid bend !!!