Whiplash (Oh no,not again!)

Whiplash (Oh no,not again!)

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Vanin

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1,010 posts

166 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Just another angle on the whiplash saga.
A year ago my wife was on the M62 and braked hard to avoid a car in front which had skidded sideways out of control having not seen the static traffic in front. Fortunately the SLK stopped in time, unfortunately a people carrier full of people behind her did not and went into the back of the SLK hard enough to push the bodywork of the people carrier onto the front wheels. SLK id a strong little car and it bent the boot frame a bit.
Wife very shaken but apparently unhurt.
Anyway happy end to the story, driver admitted liabilty we had car repaired and all paid for.

Usual plethora of calls from people wanting us to pursue a whiplash claim which we ignored.

Some months later my wife had great pain in her wrists and the physio suggested that when the car hit her it may have whipped her back into the seat which then catapulted her forward to the steering wheel, the shock being taken by her wrists.
A year on and she visited another physio with some back pain. The first thing she asked my wife after working a bit on her back was "Have you been in an accident recently?" The physio could see things out of alignment.

Now she is having an issue with her ankles.........

No wish to make a claim. Little point anyway as it would go nowhere but having been, like many, a great cynic around the whiplash saga, now I am more open minded.

cobra kid

4,937 posts

240 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I had a bang just over a month ago where I was hit from behind while stationery. No pain but then a dull ache a few days later either side of the bottom of my neck. That went after a couple of days. No thought whatsoever of claiming.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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cobra kid said:
I had a bang just over a month ago where I was hit from behind while stationery.
You should write a letter about that ....

spaximus

4,231 posts

253 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I think that what people have an issue with is those who have a slight tap and then roll around in agony, when clearly they are not.
If the impact was so hard as described, it is no surprise that she is in pain now.

backwoodsman

2,467 posts

129 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I also hate the 2MPH, no damage, but loads of whiplash fraudsters.

But in this instance, I would look into claiming.

Don't use one of the no win no fee, cold callers, get a proper company on it.

Good luck, and best wishes to your wife, for a quick recovery.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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The issue here is the length of time between the crash and the onset of symptoms - normally soft tissue injuries will present themselves with hours or days, not months.

swisstoni

16,957 posts

279 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Vanin said:
No wish to make a claim. Little point anyway as it would go nowhere but having been, like many, a great cynic around the whiplash saga, now I am more open minded.
Does sound a bit like your wife sustained more injury than either of you thought. And more is coming to light. Personally I would think about claiming in this case, but not necessarily via the vultures who called you up.
I also hate the whole claim industry btw.

Bill

52,694 posts

255 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Monty Python said:
The issue here is the length of time between the crash and the onset of symptoms - normally soft tissue injuries will present themselves with hours or days, not months.
This.

framerateuk

2,730 posts

184 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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cobra kid said:
No pain but then a dull ache a few days later either side of the bottom of my neck. That went after a couple of days. No thought whatsoever of claiming.
Had a similar thing when I was hit side-on on a roundabout last year. Ached for a few days but went away quickly.

Didn't have any calls about whiplash or anything though thankfully!

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Bill said:
Monty Python said:
The issue here is the length of time between the crash and the onset of symptoms - normally soft tissue injuries will present themselves with hours or days, not months.
This.
That's very true, but it doesn't mean a claim can't still be made as it's only been a few months since the crash. If the sufferer is having to pay for treatment and incurring costs (such as lost days at work) then in this instance a claim is definitely valid.

Bill

52,694 posts

255 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Impasse said:
That's very true, but it doesn't mean a claim can't still be made as it's only been a few months since the crash. If the sufferer is having to pay for treatment and incurring costs (such as lost days at work) then in this instance a claim is definitely valid.
Yep, but if the symptoms came on after a few months then the accident isn't the cause.

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Impasse said:
That's very true, but it doesn't mean a claim can't still be made as it's only been a few months since the crash. If the sufferer is having to pay for treatment and incurring costs (such as lost days at work) then in this instance a claim is definitely valid.
In the OP it states "some months later", which implies that the symptoms did not manifest themselves until recently, which makes it extremely difficult to tie the two events together. Who knows what the person has been up to in the intervening time?

Impasse

15,099 posts

241 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Monty Python said:
In the OP it states "some months later", which implies that the symptoms did not manifest themselves until recently, which makes it extremely difficult to tie the two events together. Who knows what the person has been up to in the intervening time?
And there is zero chance the other insurance company will decide on a course of investigative medical inspections. They'll write out a cheque and close the file.

LukeR94

2,218 posts

141 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Bill said:
Impasse said:
That's very true, but it doesn't mean a claim can't still be made as it's only been a few months since the crash. If the sufferer is having to pay for treatment and incurring costs (such as lost days at work) then in this instance a claim is definitely valid.
Yep, but if the symptoms came on after a few months then the accident isn't the cause.
How the hell can you possibly tell that, from miles away, behind a computer screen, without a medical examination.


Utter nonsense.

CYMR0

3,940 posts

200 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Impasse said:
Monty Python said:
In the OP it states "some months later", which implies that the symptoms did not manifest themselves until recently, which makes it extremely difficult to tie the two events together. Who knows what the person has been up to in the intervening time?
And there is zero chance the other insurance company will decide on a course of investigative medical inspections. They'll write out a cheque and close the file.
This would come down to medical evidence. If the physio who is instructed suggests that this is the likely cause then, presuming there is no competing evidence, there's no reason for a court not to believe it. Generally that would be ratified by a doctor and of course the other side's insurer could look at medical records and their own assessment for precisely that reason - but on the face of it, the claim is in time and there is some supportive evidence, so I don't think it's fair to say that a claim would go nowhere.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

170 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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swisstoni said:
Vanin said:
No wish to make a claim. Little point anyway as it would go nowhere but having been, like many, a great cynic around the whiplash saga, now I am more open minded.
Does sound a bit like your wife sustained more injury than either of you thought. And more is coming to light. Personally I would think about claiming in this case, but not necessarily via the vultures who called you up.
I also hate the whole claim industry btw.
No, it just sounds like a ridiculous attribution is being made. My knee locks, my wrists hurt, my back and especially my neck are bad, I've never been in an accident. It's far more likely caused by sitting at a desk too much, general bad posture, peeling too many potatoes, playing too much guitar or piano, or any of a thousand other things. 'Things out of alignment' years later is just pure hokum.

N Dentressangle

3,442 posts

222 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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LukeR94 said:
How the hell can you possibly tell that, from miles away, behind a computer screen, without a medical examination.


Utter nonsense.
Maybe he has some kind of qualification or professional background in these matters? scratchchin

mph1977

12,467 posts

168 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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LukeR94 said:
Bill said:
Impasse said:
That's very true, but it doesn't mean a claim can't still be made as it's only been a few months since the crash. If the sufferer is having to pay for treatment and incurring costs (such as lost days at work) then in this instance a claim is definitely valid.
Yep, but if the symptoms came on after a few months then the accident isn't the cause.
How the hell can you possibly tell that, from miles away, behind a computer screen, without a medical examination.


Utter nonsense.
becasue whipcash is cheaper than foolowing it through

I have often said that Whiplash assessments ought to be done by Spinal injuries specialists and include a proper , full and complete neurological exam including ASIA scoring ... that would soon put the chancers off,

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Vanin said:
A year on and she visited another physio with some back pain. The first thing she asked my wife after working a bit on her back was "Have you been in an accident recently?" The physio could see things out of alignment.
Never heard a physio use that phrase. Osteopath or chiropractor perhaps, but not a physio.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I was hit on the A500 over two years ago at appx 50mph on the driver side front right and the car proceeded to crush my 330 into the left hand side for appx 80-100m before the other car realised he had even hit me the 'tard.

Anyway both my partner and I had to go through a number of rounds of physio and I'll be honest we did claim for damages as we are still going to physio (paying ourselves) as a result of this accident and the residual injuries.

Don't discredit the injury manifesting months after an accident, my RH shoulder (that the s/belt was on) is actually sitting forward of the shoulder socket which was caused by the healing of the injury and the muscle has healed with the shoulder sitting forward of where it should be, the physio now is to 'crack' the muscle and allow the shoulder to return to its natural state.

The cost of physio isn't cheap and why should you burden the financial cost and the injury for someone else's mistake?

I may be bias in that someone claimed off me when i hit them at appx 5mph at traffic lights so when someone hits me at 50odd mph too right ill be claiming, two wrongs and all that.

Edited by Trexthedinosaur on Friday 31st October 10:36