RE: Shed Of The Week: Mazda RX-8

[Type R Tom]

Warnie said:

st! my wife's retarded? I knew it!

I've just told her and she says your a tt! She also added that you must be a great laugh to go out with (not sure weather she was being sarcastic though). Anyway like most full time working moms who also do the school run and probably 80% of the household chores (I'm a bit lazy) she hasn't the time to be a perfect human being like yourself and must be indeed, retarded.....!

Going off topic but I’m sorry mate, I can’t agree, driving 2 miles a day is a bit daft. It’s the epitome of what’s wrong with the traffic situation in this Country and to be frank if everyone had the same attitude we’d be fd

[V8RX7]

Type R Tom said:

Going off topic but I’m sorry mate, I can’t agree, driving 2 miles a day is a bit daft.

It’s the epitome of what’s wrong with the traffic situation in this Country

and to be frank if everyone had the same attitude we’d be fd

Why is it ?:

No it isn't, chronic under funding of the road system and total lack of alternatives are.

So if everyone drove 2 miles instead of driving MORE miles - we'd be worse off... not sure I follow that

[Type R Tom]

V8RX7 said:

Why is it ?:

No it isn't, chronic under funding of the road system and total lack of alternatives are.

So if everyone drove 2 miles instead of driving MORE miles - we'd be worse off... not sure I follow that

No, if everyone who currently use alternatives for journeys under 2 miles decided to drive our roads would be an awful lot busier

Do I really need suggest alternatives for journeys under 2 miles? I would have thought it was blindingly obvious?!?!

[V8RX7]

Type R Tom said:

No, if everyone who currently use alternatives for journeys under 2 miles decided to drive our roads would be an awful lot busier

Do I really need suggest alternatives for journeys under 2 miles? I would have thought it was blindingly obvious?!?!

But would it ?

Yes please - I regularly travel short distances with sheets of 8x4 and loads of a ton I'd love to know what my alternatives are.

My wife travels short distances too - less than two miles to school with our young kids - what are her options ?

THERE ARE NO BUSES
THERE ARE NO PAVEMENTS
THERE ARE NO STREET LIGHTS

Your mistake is assuming everyone is like you - thankfully we're not.

[Type R Tom]

V8RX7 said:

But would it ?

Yes please - I regularly travel short distances with sheets of 8x4 and loads of a ton I'd love to know what my alternatives are.

My wife travels short distances too - less than two miles to school with our young kids - what are her options ?

THERE ARE NO BUSES
THERE ARE NO PAVEMENTS
THERE ARE NO STREET LIGHTS

Your mistake is assuming everyone is like you - thankfully we're not.

Yeah and your assumption is that everyone is like you, last time I checked you can't carry a ton 8x4 in an RX8!

[RobinBanks]

Fire99 said:

Slightly off topic, A chap I was talking to waiting for the ferry yesterday has bought a Mazda Eunos Cosmo, which is pretty rare.
That has a triple rotor rotary engine (Same as the RX7 but with a 3rd rotor) with twin turbo's, running 300bhp straight out of the box.

I'd never heard of it but it definitely exists..

Looks interesting....

http://www.motortrend.com/classic/features/12q2_19...

[V8RX7]

Type R Tom said:

V8RX7 said:

But would it ?

Yes please - I regularly travel short distances with sheets of 8x4 and loads of a ton I'd love to know what my alternatives are.

My wife travels short distances too - less than two miles to school with our young kids - what are her options ?

THERE ARE NO BUSES
THERE ARE NO PAVEMENTS
THERE ARE NO STREET LIGHTS

Your mistake is assuming everyone is like you - thankfully we're not.

Yeah and your assumption is that everyone is like you, last time I checked you can't carry a ton 8x4 in an RX8!

Oh so you only have a problem with people travelling 2 miles in an PX8 - how exactly do they clog up the roads more than other cars ?

I see you are a Highway Engineer - that explains a lot !

[Type R Tom]

V8RX7 said:

Oh so you only have a problem with people travelling 2 miles in an PX8 - how exactly do they clog up the roads more than other cars ?

I see you are a Highway Engineer - that explains a lot !

I can’t believe this needs explaining but I’ll try. I don’t have a problem with people using vehicles for their job (like yourself) I do have a problem with people using vehicles specifically for a 2 mile commute (as per above) when there are viable alternatives, the type of car is not relevant.

Yes I am a Highway Engineer but (as usual) because you have a driving licence you clearly know more than me about sustainable travel, traffic modelling, planning, road safety etc. I take my hat off to your superior intellect, knowledge and experience.

[Gary C]

Type R Tom said:

V8RX7 said:

Oh so you only have a problem with people travelling 2 miles in an PX8 - how exactly do they clog up the roads more than other cars ?

I see you are a Highway Engineer - that explains a lot !

I can’t believe this needs explaining but I’ll try. I don’t have a problem with people using vehicles for their job (like yourself) I do have a problem with people using vehicles specifically for a 2 mile commute (as per above) when there are viable alternatives, the type of car is not relevant.

Yes I am a Highway Engineer but (as usual) because you have a driving licence you clearly know more than me about sustainable travel, traffic modelling, planning, road safety etc. I take my hat off to your superior intellect, knowledge and experience.

I'm with Tom.

Many journeys are not neseccsary and could be done on foot or car and as such would reduce the numbers of cars on the road at peak times. It's simple to understand and obvious,

however like most people I do use my car more than necessary because it's so easy.

[cib24]

Warnie said:

st! my wife's retarded? I knew it!

I've just told her and she says your a tt! She also added that you must be a great laugh to go out with (not sure weather she was being sarcastic though). Anyway like most full time working moms who also do the school run and probably 80% of the household chores (I'm a bit lazy) she hasn't the time to be a perfect human being like yourself and must be indeed, retarded.....!

There are alternatives to transport for 2 miles unless you are so out of shape that you can't walk 2 miles (or if you are legitimately disabled). Walking 2 miles takes on average 20 minutes at a decent pace but like I said a bike is a great alternative for such a short distance. I agree with Tom the highway engineer. There is no point in driving such a short distance.

Oh, and sorry to be a tt again but it's whether not weather.

[405dogvan]

I walk a lot - not as much as I used-to but still 20-30 miles a week (dogs - they're great!!)

I'm not "fit" but I'm tall and long-legged so I can cover ground - if I walk with others, I'm always going slower than I'd like to be etc. etc.

An app on my phone says I walk at just under 4mph on average - so anyone walking 2 miles in 20 mins is doing something quite amazing - I think they call it 'running' ;0

Cycling always sounds great but for a 2 mile trip the time you spend putting on/taking off the gear/locking the bike etc. will completely defeat the point of doing it!!

Driving 2 miles is super-lazy but we're a nation of super-lazy people - my other half demands a lift to work and she works less than .5 miles from here!!

Edited by 405dogvan on Wednesday 5th November 01:52

[thelawnet]

405dogvan said:

Cycling always sounds great but for a 2 mile trip the time you spend putting on/taking off the gear/locking the bike etc. will completely defeat the point of doing it!!

Driving 2 miles is super-lazy but we're a nation of super-lazy people - my other half demands a lift to work and she works less than .5 miles from here!!

Gear? For a two mile journey?

You just hop on your bike and go. No gear needed really. And it takes seconds to lock a bike up. And I think for less than half a mile a lift is ridiculous.

Where I live it's just under a mile to the town centre, and it takes 5 minutes total to do the journey. By car you'd be looking at about 20 minutes by the time you've parked in some hideous multi-storey car park. Walking would be quicker.

We've got two cars at the moment (not for long though!) and because of that it when it was raining this afternoon I took the car to pick up my daughter (just under a mile again) rather than going by bike as I would normally do. It was basically laziness really - could certainly have gone out in the rain by bike, just didn't fancy it, and the lazy choice was there.

[Joeguard1990]

Back on topic I have a question:

So the RX8 R3 models are almost 3 times the price.

However, I have seen one for sale with 72000 miles that has had an engine rebuild, so this leads me to assume the problems still exists even with the updates to the engine.

Is it worth me spending say 6-7K on an R3 with around 30k miles on it if it's going to need another engine in another 30K?

Side note - Magna Mazda in Southampton have a gorgeous white R3 with only 16K on the clock. They want 9.5K for it!!

[Iklwa]

Joeguard1990 said:

Back on topic I have a question:

So the RX8 R3 models are almost 3 times the price.

However, I have seen one for sale with 72000 miles that has had an engine rebuild, so this leads me to assume the problems still exists even with the updates to the engine.ere

Is it worth me spending say 6-7K on an R3 with around 30k miles on it if it's going to need another engine in another 30K?

Side note - Magna Mazda in Southampton have a gorgeous white R3 with only 16K on the clock. They want 9.5K for it!!

Are there any other cars you might consider? S2000, early M3, S1 Elise, or even a gen 1 TT, for 9.5k there are better choices, unless you simply have to have a Mazda, with a rorotary. You have to hope whoever did the rebuild didn't do it cheap, and also resale value is terrible on these. When you see one you immediately know the owner didn't pay much, they have had values hammered through reputation and have an image to match now unfortunately.

[Joeguard1990]

Iklwa said:

Are there any other cars you might consider? S2000, early M3, S1 Elise, or even a gen 1 TT, for 9.5k there are better choices, unless you simply have to have a Mazda, with a rorotary. You have to hope whoever did the rebuild didn't do it cheap, and also resale value is terrible on these. When you see one you immediately know the owner didn't pay much, they have had values hammered through reputation and have an image to match now unfortunately.

I already own an RX8 231 but it's not an R3 model.

TBH it does everything I need and is fast enough and I know how to look after them.
I just wasn't sure if the engine problems would be the same with the R3 model or not seeing as how it was updated.

You say re-sale is terrible, but look at R3s for sale and you'll see a clear price difference. However this may just be down to age where they are just newer and eventually they will be worth 2K...

Could look at other alternatives but each to their own, it's what I'm after.

[Gary C]

Joeguard1990 said:

Back on topic I have a question:

So the RX8 R3 models are almost 3 times the price.

However, I have seen one for sale with 72000 miles that has had an engine rebuild, so this leads me to assume the problems still exists even with the updates to the engine.

Is it worth me spending say 6-7K on an R3 with around 30k miles on it if it's going to need another engine in another 30K?

Side note - Magna Mazda in Southampton have a gorgeous white R3 with only 16K on the clock. They want 9.5K for it!!

The r3 engine did have some useful updates, but I found the suspension not as good as the original, I found it to be more supple and adjustable.

[carinaman]

As there maybe a few RX8 gurus reading this thread, does anyone know if the red bar indicators in the tachometer as described in this thread can be retrofitted to earlier models, or is it reliant on the third injector and whatever activates that?:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[Fastdruid]

carinaman said:

As there maybe a few RX8 gurus reading this thread, does anyone know if the red bar indicators in the tachometer as described in this thread can be retrofitted to earlier models, or is it reliant on the third injector and whatever activates that?:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I'd guess it's temperature related in which case you'd need a set of R3 clocks and it should just work. Odometer would be out though.

[otolith]

Fastdruid said:

I'd guess it's temperature related in which case you'd need a set of R3 clocks and it should just work. Odometer would be out though.

Wonder whether the logic is in the instruments or in the ECU.

[Fastdruid]

otolith said:

Fastdruid said:

I'd guess it's temperature related in which case you'd need a set of R3 clocks and it should just work. Odometer would be out though.

Wonder whether the logic is in the instruments or in the ECU.

It could be either but in the clocks would be easier and more logical as that's one component change rather than two. Of course they have changed the PCM as well (or at the very least the firmware) so it could be in PCM.

If anyone has a set of R3 clocks they could lend me I'll find out.