RE: Shed Of The Week: Mazda RX-8

RE: Shed Of The Week: Mazda RX-8

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graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Surely one of these at this price and considering the motor shape/size is ripe for someone to develop an electric motor conversion.


dern

14,055 posts

279 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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pSyCoSiS said:
Looks like a nice example and with an honest seller. Shame it has the hot starting issue which could be ruinous if it needs a new engine.
Not really ruinous. We just spent £3.5k on ours and got a engine rebuild, a new clutch and a cat drive in drive out with a 30k warranty. So even if it needs those things you've got a lovely car with a new engine and a warrenty of the engine for two years for a little over 4k with a bit of bargaining. Anyone who can't see that as a good deal compared to how you could piss your money away on cars has lost their mind in my opinion.

Borrowed my wife's rx-8 today, bloody lovely car. I rue the day I suggested she get one and I didn't buy it for myself.


Edited by dern on Friday 31st October 15:59

dern

14,055 posts

279 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Limpet said:
I'm clearly missing something as I just don't get these things at all. confused

For your heady 231 bhp and 156 lb/ft of torque, you get teens to the gallon, litres of oil used between services, and even with kid gloves treatment, you are highly likely to get stiched up with a costly rebuild at a mileage where a proper engine would be just getting into its stride.

I get that the engine is small, revvy and light, and very smooth. But it fundamentally doesn't work frown
Have you driven one for any length of time?

J4CKO

41,551 posts

200 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Anyone DIYed a rebuild ?

otolith

56,098 posts

204 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Someone on the owner's club did - I think he may have turned it into a business since.

Prawo Jazdy

4,946 posts

214 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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article said:
lovely cars that nobody will touch with a bargepole while wearing an ebola suit in the near-perfect vacuum of outer space.
hehe Thanks - I got a proper LOL from that.

LittleEnus

3,226 posts

174 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Terzo123 said:
Ripe for an GM LS series engine swap.
No its not. Standard PH response. Like someone else said, to not have a rotary makes it an R8. It's like the Corsair V4 I had in an RO80, killed the cars soul.


RemyMartin

6,759 posts

205 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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otolith said:
This is the size it;

fk me Pat Sharp rebuilds rotarys?!?

B.J.W

5,784 posts

215 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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mate of mine had the first one of these in the country back in 2003.

loved the looks and handling, but always (to me) seemed to be missing 'something'. Never a car that's floated my boat - but then I do have questionable taste in cars

masermartin

1,629 posts

177 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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RemyMartin said:
fk me Pat Sharp rebuilds rotarys?!?


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roland82

257 posts

215 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Great investment as a get away car.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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dern said:
Not really ruinous. We just spent £3.5k on ours and got a engine rebuild, a new clutch and a cat drive in drive out with a 30k warranty. So even if it needs those things you've got a lovely car with a new engine and a warrenty of the engine for two years for a little over 4k with a bit of bargaining. Anyone who can't see that as a good deal compared to how you could piss your money away on cars has lost their mind in my opinion.

Borrowed my wife's rx-8 today, bloody lovely car. I rue the day I suggested she get one and I didn't buy it for myself.


Edited by dern on Friday 31st October 15:59
Spending near on 3x the value of the car is pretty ruinous imo. I spent similar getting the engine rebuilt on my old TVR Chimaera , however, that was a bit special so worth spending the money on. I don't think an RX8 is.

Escy

3,931 posts

149 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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It's often overlooked, for me the interesting part of the RX8 is the 4 door coupe thing. I'm surprised it hasn't caught on since. I've got a 1 year old daughter, the bodystyle would perfectly suit what I was looking for. Coupe looks but is actually a 4 door, nicely specced, engaging to drive, RWD, manual gearbox, etc. There isn't another car that fits the bill like this I'd have loved for the wife to run one.

The reality is the MPG/BHP ratio is too poor, couldn't justify it. The reliability is poor also. I keep getting tempted by an engine swap but deep down I know it's probably pointless. There isn't an easy and cheap option otherwise it'd have been done by someone and turned into a business.

If only they'd fitted a 4 pot from the factory.

TREMAiNE

3,918 posts

149 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Escy said:
If only they'd fitted a 4 pot from the factory marketed it towards enthusasists, massively reducing the amount of idiots that bought and subsequently failed to maintain them.
EFA teacher

Escy

3,931 posts

149 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Edited for bo11ocks more like....

Mazda are a mainstream car company, the majority of their cars are toss (i've got a Mazda 2 courtesy car and the moment and it's horrible). Their market isn't to sell high maintenance cars to enthusiasts. With the RX8 they stacked them high and sold them cheap.

I love the idea of the rotary but it's flawed as a car engine.

otolith

56,098 posts

204 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I like the fuel economy of diesels, if only you could have them with petrol engines they would be perfect.

If you want a four pot RX-8, buy a GT86. Yeah, I know, no space in the back. If only it was built around a tiny engine to give it better packaging...

Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Is 700 ish as cheap as the parts get?

Would fancy a crack at a rebuild but not sure I'd want to be in for 1700 if it went wrong!

Toaster Pilot

14,619 posts

158 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Is 700 ish as cheap as the parts get?

Would fancy a crack at a rebuild but not sure I'd want to be in for 1700 if it went wrong!

Escy

3,931 posts

149 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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otolith said:
I like the fuel economy of diesels, if only you could have them with petrol engines they would be perfect.

If you want a four pot RX-8, buy a GT86. Yeah, I know, no space in the back. If only it was built around a tiny engine to give it better packaging...
Are you trying to make out the reason the RX-8 has more space in the back and the extra doors when compared to a GT86 is because of the small physical size of the rotary engine allowing for superior packaging?

GreenArrow

3,591 posts

117 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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I love RX-8s to bits, but why has PH chosen this as a shed, when it has a documented and likely costly problem? A lot of the Rx-8s problems are caused by ignorance on the part of owners, in terms of not knowing how to treat them. They have their foibles. A good one, at around 2 grand, however is likely to be a real bargain...