Congestion charge for Manchester?

[Dog Star]

I've been waiting for this to happen since the failure of the travel tax scam in Manchester through democratic means.

I'm deeply suspicious that they get a mayor in place and they can just implement a congestion charge with no referendum.

Here we go...
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

It doesn't mention a congestion charge but that will be very high on the list of tinpot schemes.

I expect the same will happen in every big city in the UK very swiftly if this is the case.

[Dog Star]

Doubtless there will be a massive increase in bus lanes too.

[3sixty]

Somethings got to pay for the mess they are making of Albert Sq / Cross St

[mini1380cc]

hora said:

£450m tram extension to Trafford Park. What the fk- its costing almost `1/2 billion just to go there? Most people drive, catches buses etc. I didn't see it as a problem. Wow. £450m.

That is chump change compared to the Edinburgh Tram (non-plural/singular!) line. Try £1bn once the interest is taken into account.

[littleguy]

I asked the local MP last night if devolution meant being able to keep Scousers out. Not had a reply yet...

[bga]

If it is anything like other projects that MCC have done then they won't be able to work out who hasn't paid.

[Urban Sports]

As if you'd pay to travel into that st hole.

[Kaelic]

Well they are fking up the East Lancs with this guided busway reducing us down to two lanes .... then the crap phasing of the traffic lights, I am sure they will no doubt blame it all on the pure weight of traffic

[tomjol]

Might be being stupid, but I don't see any reference to the congestion charge?

hora said:

£450m tram extension to Trafford Park. What the fk- its costing almost `1/2 billion just to go there? Most people drive, catches buses etc. I didn't see it as a problem. Wow. £450m.

Projects to improve public transport for millions in "quite expensive" shocker.

Edited by tomjol on Friday 31st October 15:23

[Nezquick]

mini1380cc said:

hora said:

£450m tram extension to Trafford Park. What the fk- its costing almost `1/2 billion just to go there? Most people drive, catches buses etc. I didn't see it as a problem. Wow. £450m.

That is chump change compared to the Edinburgh Tram (non-plural/singular!) line. Try £1bn once the interest is taken into account.

It's just nonsense the figures they band about. There's no way it would cost that in real terms. I suspect it's lot of backhanders and promised contracts between old boys down at the local "club", much the same as HS2, which is also bks.

[gus607]

Nottingham is far worse.

We have the second phase of tram works in progress new,I've not met anyone in favour of this crap scheme yet.

Also the Workplace Parking Levy (WPL), to help pay for this white elephant idea the commuter pays nearly £400 a year for the privilege of parking in a company provided car park.

Nottingham was the first city to trial the WPL.

[berlintaxi]

Urban Sports said:

As if you'd pay to travel into that st hole.

Says the member for Miseryside.

[k-ink]

hora said:

£450m tram extension to Trafford Park. What the fk- its costing almost `1/2 billion just to go there? Most people drive, catches buses etc. I didn't see it as a problem. Wow. £450m.

Don't forget half of that will be profit - split between whoever signed off the project and whoever builds it.

[cirian75]

littleguy said:

I asked the local MP last night if devolution meant being able to keep Scousers out. Not had a reply yet...

To late

I'm already living in Chorlton

[Urban Sports]

berlintaxi said:

Urban Sports said:

As if you'd pay to travel into that st hole.

Says the member for Miseryside.

It took that long I put my net down

[SkinnyP]

Manchester.You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

[Fugazi]

SkinnyP said:

Manchester.You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

You've never been to St.Helens

[Tickle]

Fugazi said:

SkinnyP said:

Manchester.You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

You've never been to St.Helens

Ah St. Helens. 'A town called Heroin', but its home.

[Phateuk]

gus607 said:

Nottingham is far worse.

We have the second phase of tram works in progress new,I've not met anyone in favour of this crap scheme yet.

Also the Workplace Parking Levy (WPL), to help pay for this white elephant idea the commuter pays nearly £400 a year for the privilege of parking in a company provided car park.

Nottingham was the first city to trial the WPL.

I hated this when I worked in notts, I could see it would make sense for those driving into the actual city centre, but I worked on the outskirts and wouldn't have benefitted at all from the tram. Just extorting drivers as usual to pay for corporate back handers - the tram is privatised now not even run or owned by the council

Thankfully I work in derby now where parking on private company land is free

[BobSaunders]

Dog Star said:

I've been waiting for this to happen since the failure of the travel tax scam in Manchester through democratic means.

I'm deeply suspicious that they get a mayor in place and they can just implement a congestion charge with no referendum.

Here we go...
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greate...

It doesn't mention a congestion charge but that will be very high on the list of tinpot schemes.

I expect the same will happen in every big city in the UK very swiftly if this is the case.

In all seriousness they do need a route out to trafford park, it is one major area serviced by the tram (sale sharks, trafford centre).

The current city centre scheme is the introduction of a second route through the town centre, currently there is only one route, which if there is a problem the entire network screams to a halt impacting all sides.

The introduction of a oyster card solution would be fantastic, so much more simple to get onto the trains and buses, however, it would be interesting for "ticket checks", not sure how they would achieve that.