RE: Infiniti Q50 2.0T: Review
Discussion
Did anyone see the piece on SkyF1 at the weekend about the Red Bull event in downtown Austin? Riccardio was giving passenger rides in the "Eau Rouge" version and despite his best efforts it would not doughnut, tail slide or do anything else exuberant. I really felt for the poor guy - you could sense his frustration.
pSyCoSiS said:
Not a bad looking motor. The colour really suits it and you do get a fair whack of the latest technology.
But for £41k?! f
k no!
To be clear, the Infiniti Q50 starts at £27,950 for the 2.2d manual. It's going to price out about the same as a similarly specced Mercedes C ClassBut for £41k?! f
k no!I don't get the hate for infiniti. If it had a bmw badge people would be wetting themselves about it. Says it all about the UK.
I believe they have changed back to hydronic power steering for the 3.7 sport model. I may be wrong however
I believe they have changed back to hydronic power steering for the 3.7 sport model. I may be wrong however
Edited by kevlaruk on Thursday 6th November 19:41
Edited by kevlaruk on Thursday 6th November 19:41
Had a Q50S hybrid one on test drive for 48 hours a few weeks back. Steering a little inconsistent in behaviour, but really not that bothersome at all.
Far more irritating was the hybrid drivetrain which insisted on shutting the engine down, even when in Sport. Fine in town, weird at 70mph cruise. Plus if you start it you miss out on the nice V6 rumble, since it doesn't fire until you're rolling.
That aside I really like it, but concluded that it would be better having just the 3.7 V6 with the fringe benefit of reclaiming the boot space from the hybrid batteries. But then nobody would buy it because the UK seems to hate big capacity petrols.
Far more irritating was the hybrid drivetrain which insisted on shutting the engine down, even when in Sport. Fine in town, weird at 70mph cruise. Plus if you start it you miss out on the nice V6 rumble, since it doesn't fire until you're rolling.
That aside I really like it, but concluded that it would be better having just the 3.7 V6 with the fringe benefit of reclaiming the boot space from the hybrid batteries. But then nobody would buy it because the UK seems to hate big capacity petrols.
kevlaruk said:
If you mean boring diesels I agree. They do have a diesel now which should help company car sales.
I'm happy they make 3.7 v6 saloons, not many companies are willing to do this today.
As someone with two 6 cylinder cars I agree.I'm happy they make 3.7 v6 saloons, not many companies are willing to do this today.
However, V6s and hybrids are just not what the general public wants are they?
Much as enthusiasts may resist, modern diesels are just irresistible to most as a daily proposition. Its no wonder the 2.0 diesel has become so ubiquitous.
My Z4 had to go into the bodyshop recently after someone drove into it. They gave me a bog standard C Class C220 diesel auto as a hire car. I immediately prepared to hate it....and just loved it. It was fabulous as a daily. Smooth, quiet, well damped and genuinely quick. Honestly once on the move it didn't feel that much slower than my 3.0 petrol Z4, even though the numbers would suggest otherwise.
Don't get me wrong, I won't be hanging up my petrol spurs just yet and plan to go V8 next year.
However with modern diesels being so damn talented now, why Infiniti and Lexus keep trying to peddle seemingly unwanted hybrid technology is beyond me. Just make a bloody good diesel and take the Germans on head to head. Or perhaps I am missing the point???
Alfa159Ti said:
As someone with two 6 cylinder cars I agree.
However, V6s and hybrids are just not what the general public wants are they?
However with modern diesels being so damn talented now, why Infiniti and Lexus keep trying to peddle seemingly unwanted hybrid technology is beyond me. Just make a bloody good diesel and take the Germans on head to head. Or perhaps I am missing the point???
I think they are making what Americans want, and if we want to buy them, well it's up to us.However, V6s and hybrids are just not what the general public wants are they?
However with modern diesels being so damn talented now, why Infiniti and Lexus keep trying to peddle seemingly unwanted hybrid technology is beyond me. Just make a bloody good diesel and take the Germans on head to head. Or perhaps I am missing the point???
thelawnet said:
Alfa159Ti said:
As someone with two 6 cylinder cars I agree.
However, V6s and hybrids are just not what the general public wants are they?
However with modern diesels being so damn talented now, why Infiniti and Lexus keep trying to peddle seemingly unwanted hybrid technology is beyond me. Just make a bloody good diesel and take the Germans on head to head. Or perhaps I am missing the point???
I think they are making what Americans want, and if we want to buy them, well it's up to us.However, V6s and hybrids are just not what the general public wants are they?
However with modern diesels being so damn talented now, why Infiniti and Lexus keep trying to peddle seemingly unwanted hybrid technology is beyond me. Just make a bloody good diesel and take the Germans on head to head. Or perhaps I am missing the point???
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU468Asbj8o at 1:30 the driver leaves his seat, on the autobahn
Just watched strider's link above and do not understand where manufacturers are going with the drive itself car, if people do not want to drive cars catch a bus or a taxi !! the pleasure of driving is already diminishing with all the car additional features but are they required!! Has anybody got a good word about the new porsche 911 steering? not a lot of love or this car in the UK.
[quote=unpc]A lot of noise is being made about steer by wire and rightly so as this scares the st out of me, but very little about this autonomous braking malarkey. I've been involved in one of these projects that uses twin forward facing cameras in the windscreen to detect hazards but sun load can make the cameras overheat and they shut down.
I just wonder who then is at fault in an accident when your autonomous systems fail (and they will)? Where do car companies legally stand by reducing the driver's input from his control of the car? I can see this becoming a massive can of worms. [/quote=unpc]
Do the cameras work again after having overheated? If they didn't then I would assume they trigger a fault code in the vehicles ECU/s (I work on trucks and basically everything electric can trigger a fault code if it fails) so they'd be able to see at a workshop with the right diagnostic tool. Usually with a time of occurrence too.
t out of me, but very little about this autonomous braking malarkey. I've been involved in one of these projects that uses twin forward facing cameras in the windscreen to detect hazards but sun load can make the cameras overheat and they shut down. I just wonder who then is at fault in an accident when your autonomous systems fail (and they will)? Where do car companies legally stand by reducing the driver's input from his control of the car? I can see this becoming a massive can of worms. [/quote=unpc]
Do the cameras work again after having overheated? If they didn't then I would assume they trigger a fault code in the vehicles ECU/s (I work on trucks and basically everything electric can trigger a fault code if it fails) so they'd be able to see at a workshop with the right diagnostic tool. Usually with a time of occurrence too.
You know, I'm not so intimidated by increasing automation of cars. We've been used to this stuff for ages in airliners - as long as the systems can be made to work as reliably in a car as they do in airliners, I'm not fussed. That said, I'd trust Mercedes-Benz above all others to get it right. While Google are faffing about with driverless fridges covered in antenna and cameras, Stuttgart has already got it sussed in a car the general public will see as familiar and normal... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKqJccK_EkM
Does this mean I want a classic analogue GT any less? Does it heck. But on a cold, wet winter night, after a long and tiring day, when you just want to get home safe and sound, this could be what saves your neck.
Does this mean I want a classic analogue GT any less? Does it heck. But on a cold, wet winter night, after a long and tiring day, when you just want to get home safe and sound, this could be what saves your neck.
toppstuff said:
Alfa159Ti said:
I am all for variety, but Infiniti (and to a lesser degree Lexus) just seem to be totally out of touch with what the British car buying public want.
Sadly, the British car buying public all seem to want an Audi.I'd take the Infinity just to be different.
In another thread, a PH'er is struggling to find a medium/large estate with a decent petrol engine (i.e. not a wimpy 520i). It seems that buyers & manufacturers have all but abandoned large petrols apart from in their AMG/M/RS etc. halo models. A shame if you want anything in between them and the base model. 
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