RE: SEMA 2014

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Encantada

3,989 posts

254 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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What Cinderella wants, Cinderella gets. 21st century styleee


fatboy18

18,950 posts

212 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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Benjaminbopper said:
The majority of the pictures selected for the article don't represent what's really going on there. It's like photographing the wacky racers at Goodwood FOS. Yes these things are there but it's not entirely accurate.

Speedhunters will most likely run a decent summary in the next few weeks if anyone is genuinely interested.
This is making its debut at SEMA

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


There is also the Gen V Vert called the Medusa!





fatboy18

18,950 posts

212 months

Saturday 8th November 2014
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Feast your eyes on this lot smile

http://s466.photobucket.com/user/ynotdv8/library/E...











Love this Its Got TVR written all over it Sagaris on steroids....is that possible? biggrin





Edited by fatboy18 on Saturday 8th November 21:49

LasseV

1,754 posts

134 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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Lot of beautiful cars, but i think that Supra errrr FT1 is the most gorgeous of all. Too small back wing tho LOL.

fatboy18

18,950 posts

212 months

Sunday 9th November 2014
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LasseV said:
Lot of beautiful cars, but i think that Supra errrr FT1 is the most gorgeous of all. Too small back wing tho LOL.
I was thinking exactly the same thing with that wing, it needs a bigger one. smile

bobberz

1,832 posts

200 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Gecko1978 said:
I love it what a great way to spend a day looking at the strange an crazy creations sure alot of it is not my taste (the first hummer for example) but I like the fact if you want to you can.

Are the laws in the US different because modding a car in the UK is an insurance nightmare an so puts many off where as in the US (Vegas in particular) it seems people are fine with it an warrenty be dammed.
The US is generally very open, regarding modifying cars, though laws vary state-to-state. If the car is 25 years or older and has "antique" plates on it, it's pretty much anything goes. Yes, most aftermarket modifications to engine/drivetrain components will void your warranty, hence why people here usually wait until it expires, then go wild, or if they have enough money, they don't care about the warranty, anyway. Remember, over here is where hot-rodding began and that tradition is still very much alive. Most cars sold in America don't stay stock for long, even if it's only visual modifications like wheels or cheap accessories sold at any auto parts store.

As far as the law goes, the only things you can't modify are emissions and safety equipment. Again, all that changes if the car is 25 years old or older. I could legally remove the emissions equipment and put Webers in place of the Bosch L-Jetronic on my Alfa Spider if I wanted to, but if I removed the cat or the airbags on my Focus, I'd be looking at a hefty fine, at the very least.


bobberz

1,832 posts

200 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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MarvinTPA said:
I've only ever seen one truck ( in Las Vegas as it happens ) being driven on the road with alloys like those in the picture. The local roads had however taken one look at them and decided to dent them so badly that the ride must have been like something out of the Flintstones.
I've never seen a vehicle with wheels quite the size of the ones on that H2, though 22-26 inch wheels are very common on SUVs around here (mostly Escalades, Range Rovers, and G63 AMGs). The wheel/tire size ratio changes depending on how close to a city you are. The closer to rural areas you get, the wheel sizes go down and tire sizes go up.

The closest I've seen to the wheel size on that H2 "in the wild" are the Dubs on this H2 I saw a few years ago. I don't recall what the exact size was, but I believe they may have been 30".




Gecko1978

9,726 posts

158 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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bobberz said:
Gecko1978 said:
I love it what a great way to spend a day looking at the strange an crazy creations sure alot of it is not my taste (the first hummer for example) but I like the fact if you want to you can.

Are the laws in the US different because modding a car in the UK is an insurance nightmare an so puts many off where as in the US (Vegas in particular) it seems people are fine with it an warrenty be dammed.
The US is generally very open, regarding modifying cars, though laws vary state-to-state. If the car is 25 years or older and has "antique" plates on it, it's pretty much anything goes. Yes, most aftermarket modifications to engine/drivetrain components will void your warranty, hence why people here usually wait until it expires, then go wild, or if they have enough money, they don't care about the warranty, anyway. Remember, over here is where hot-rodding began and that tradition is still very much alive. Most cars sold in America don't stay stock for long, even if it's only visual modifications like wheels or cheap accessories sold at any auto parts store.

As far as the law goes, the only things you can't modify are emissions and safety equipment. Again, all that changes if the car is 25 years old or older. I could legally remove the emissions equipment and put Webers in place of the Bosch L-Jetronic on my Alfa Spider if I wanted to, but if I removed the cat or the airbags on my Focus, I'd be looking at a hefty fine, at the very least.

I had heard of in the past people going into the local ford dealer buying a mustang an then the dealer offering to fit a supercharger etc so you buy a car with 300bhp but when you pick it up it has 500 and the delaer still offers some sort of aftersales.

Having modified my last car (Impreza remap and fully haywood an Scott exhaust) I can see the appeal etc you get the car you want not the one they want you to have but insurnace is a nightmare even though in many cases (better breaks) it makes the car safer.

thanks for answering that though it explains why in Vegas I have seen F150's made to look like bigfoot and cameros that breath fire etc. Long may the hot rod culture continue...though I think we have it right when it comes to bike helment laws lol

chilled901

395 posts

178 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Gecko1978 said:
I had heard of in the past people going into the local ford dealer buying a mustang an then the dealer offering to fit a supercharger etc so you buy a car with 300bhp but when you pick it up it has 500 and the delaer still offers some sort of aftersales.

Having modified my last car (Impreza remap and fully haywood an Scott exhaust) I can see the appeal etc you get the car you want not the one they want you to have but insurnace is a nightmare even though in many cases (better breaks) it makes the car safer.

thanks for answering that though it explains why in Vegas I have seen F150's made to look like bigfoot and cameros that breath fire etc. Long may the hot rod culture continue...though I think we have it right when it comes to bike helment laws lol
My insurance company here in the States, allowed me to tack on an extra $4000 in coverage specifically for aftermarket parts. The only catch is I am not allowed to hack/ remove any emissions/ safety equipment.

bobberz

1,832 posts

200 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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Gecko1978 said:
bobberz said:
Gecko1978 said:
I love it what a great way to spend a day looking at the strange an crazy creations sure alot of it is not my taste (the first hummer for example) but I like the fact if you want to you can.

Are the laws in the US different because modding a car in the UK is an insurance nightmare an so puts many off where as in the US (Vegas in particular) it seems people are fine with it an warrenty be dammed.
The US is generally very open, regarding modifying cars, though laws vary state-to-state. If the car is 25 years or older and has "antique" plates on it, it's pretty much anything goes. Yes, most aftermarket modifications to engine/drivetrain components will void your warranty, hence why people here usually wait until it expires, then go wild, or if they have enough money, they don't care about the warranty, anyway. Remember, over here is where hot-rodding began and that tradition is still very much alive. Most cars sold in America don't stay stock for long, even if it's only visual modifications like wheels or cheap accessories sold at any auto parts store.

As far as the law goes, the only things you can't modify are emissions and safety equipment. Again, all that changes if the car is 25 years old or older. I could legally remove the emissions equipment and put Webers in place of the Bosch L-Jetronic on my Alfa Spider if I wanted to, but if I removed the cat or the airbags on my Focus, I'd be looking at a hefty fine, at the very least.

I had heard of in the past people going into the local ford dealer buying a mustang an then the dealer offering to fit a supercharger etc so you buy a car with 300bhp but when you pick it up it has 500 and the delaer still offers some sort of aftersales.

Having modified my last car (Impreza remap and fully haywood an Scott exhaust) I can see the appeal etc you get the car you want not the one they want you to have but insurnace is a nightmare even though in many cases (better breaks) it makes the car safer.

thanks for answering that though it explains why in Vegas I have seen F150's made to look like bigfoot and cameros that breath fire etc. Long may the hot rod culture continue...though I think we have it right when it comes to bike helment laws lol
Yes, that's been the case for a long time. Even in the '60s, a Paxton centrifugal supercharger was a dealer-fit option on Shelby Mustangs. Nowadays, a lot of Ford dealers are franchises for Saleen, Roush, or Steeda and all three of those companies offer bolt-on parts that won't void your factory warranty. Some companies have even started doing this in-house, like Toyota/Scion, who offer their own TRD supercharger which is fully factory-backed and won't void your warranty. AFAIK, modifications aren't usually an insurance problem.

bobberz

1,832 posts

200 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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fatboy18 said:
Benjaminbopper said:
The majority of the pictures selected for the article don't represent what's really going on there. It's like photographing the wacky racers at Goodwood FOS. Yes these things are there but it's not entirely accurate.

Speedhunters will most likely run a decent summary in the next few weeks if anyone is genuinely interested.
This is making its debut at SEMA

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


There is also the Gen V Vert called the Medusa!

Mmm, I quite like that purple Viper roadster. I wonder if they'll make a production roadster, this time around? It seems logical, since all previous incarnations of the Viper offered a roadster variant (obviously the original was roadster-only, until 1996 when the GTS came out).

BigBen

11,648 posts

231 months

Monday 10th November 2014
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I managed to attend the show last Thursday. As others have said the cars are in the main not my cup of tea but the quality of finish on most of them was amazing. Even if you don't have tickets for the show there is loads to see in the outdoor display areas, we only got tickets because we had it arranged prior to our arrival (sourced from a shady gentleman in one of the car parks).

Ben

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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fatboy18 said:
A hidden gem. smile


BrockLanders

8 posts

132 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Benjaminbopper said:
The majority of the pictures selected for the article don't represent what's really going on there. It's like photographing the wacky racers at Goodwood FOS. Yes these things are there but it's not entirely accurate.

Speedhunters will most likely run a decent summary in the next few weeks if anyone is genuinely interested.
^ This. Having that Hummer as the lead photo is, at best, low-hanging fruit and, at worst, lazy and dishonest. It's simply not illustrative of what is actually happening at SEMA. This isn't 2007. Sure, there's some ridiculous stuff there - Donk's, scissor doors on Hondas, etc. - but they aren't the main draw, and why PH chose to lead with the Hummer and not, say, the Ken Block "Hoonicorn" tells us, sadly, more about PH than it does about the SEMA show. Too bad.

Edited by BrockLanders on Tuesday 11th November 18:07

tombstone

202 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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32" wheels and tyres £25,000...... be a bugger when you hit a pothole ;-)