Renault Clio 1.5DCi (106 BHP)? OR ALTERNATIVE?
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10 seconds to 60, which is pretty decent for a small diesel. The Initiale looks well spec'ed with leather and various toys.
As for alternatives it depends on what you are comparing. I'm assuming it is the small diesel engine that you are wanting therefore the alternatives are anything with the following engines:
1.4 TDI VW
1.4 TDCI Ford
1.3 CDTI Vauxhall
1.6 HDI Cit/pug
As for alternatives it depends on what you are comparing. I'm assuming it is the small diesel engine that you are wanting therefore the alternatives are anything with the following engines:
1.4 TDI VW
1.4 TDCI Ford
1.3 CDTI Vauxhall
1.6 HDI Cit/pug
Edited by mini1380cc on Monday 10th November 16:13
Fiat Grande Punto JTD.
1.9TD. 130hp. can be had for £2,500. Gearbox made a sludge and 4th gear bearings can fail. Or a 1.4 Petrol T-Jet which uses the same engine as the Abarth 500/Grande Punto so responds nicely to a few tweaks.
And cruising up and down the Mway, I get 45 to the gallon. (in a T-Jet)
Bad sides, ARB's are a common fault (£20 and half hour spanner wielding,or an hour garage labour later.
errrr... a bit of wind noise at 80 leptons, but the radio can compensate.
Has BT as standard, good Stereo, Built a lot better than Fiat of old!
1.9TD. 130hp. can be had for £2,500. Gearbox made a sludge and 4th gear bearings can fail. Or a 1.4 Petrol T-Jet which uses the same engine as the Abarth 500/Grande Punto so responds nicely to a few tweaks.
And cruising up and down the Mway, I get 45 to the gallon. (in a T-Jet)
Bad sides, ARB's are a common fault (£20 and half hour spanner wielding,or an hour garage labour later.
errrr... a bit of wind noise at 80 leptons, but the radio can compensate.
Has BT as standard, good Stereo, Built a lot better than Fiat of old!
JakeThePeg said:
Fiat Grande Punto JTD.
1.9TD. 130hp. can be had for £2,500. Gearbox made a sludge and 4th gear bearings can fail. Or a 1.4 Petrol T-Jet which uses the same engine as the Abarth 500/Grande Punto so responds nicely to a few tweaks.
And cruising up and down the Mway, I get 45 to the gallon. (in a T-Jet)
Bad sides, ARB's are a common fault (£20 and half hour spanner wielding,or an hour garage labour later.
errrr... a bit of wind noise at 80 leptons, but the radio can compensate.
Has BT as standard, good Stereo, Built a lot better than Fiat of old!
That 1.9 is an amazing shout, so what are the flaws of the 1.9 multijet in more detail?1.9TD. 130hp. can be had for £2,500. Gearbox made a sludge and 4th gear bearings can fail. Or a 1.4 Petrol T-Jet which uses the same engine as the Abarth 500/Grande Punto so responds nicely to a few tweaks.
And cruising up and down the Mway, I get 45 to the gallon. (in a T-Jet)
Bad sides, ARB's are a common fault (£20 and half hour spanner wielding,or an hour garage labour later.
errrr... a bit of wind noise at 80 leptons, but the radio can compensate.
Has BT as standard, good Stereo, Built a lot better than Fiat of old!
Memorise97 said:
That 1.9 is an amazing shout, so what are the flaws of the 1.9 multijet in more detail?
Just on one quote of a Fiat Punto 1.9 I got a quote of £1700 and that's monthly payments which I think is actually reasonable, and no doubt I will find one cheaper nearer the time once I've looked aroundMemorise97 said:
That 1.9 is an amazing shout, so what are the flaws of the 1.9 multijet in more detail?
I don't know I don't own one. I've heard that the M32 gearbox used in the GP JTD's have weak bearing, usually found by a whining 4th gear.
Plus ARB's are a little weak, but only need doing every 50-60k's
Other than that, you'll have to research them, I've got a later series 2 (fancy head/taillights, different seat design plus cruise as standard) which fixed 90% of these.
http://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto/89495-recall... - Fiat forum showing every known fault with the cars, and fixes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Fiat-Grande-Punto-S... - A little over budget, but swapping current/waiting a couple of months should get you into one. Check for recent cambelt changes on both of the cars.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-FIAT-GRANDE-PUNTO-S...
With £1 change, not a fan of diesels whatsoever so can't comment on this, but looks okay and up for budget.
Memorise97 said:
Just on one quote of a Fiat Punto 1.9 I got a quote of £1700 and that's monthly payments which I think is actually reasonable, and no doubt I will find one cheaper nearer the time once I've looked around
To be honest with you, and you won't want to hear this, but wait. if you wait a year, you'll be able to afford a different car to what you have now, but won't be paying insurance monthly, as if you do, you'll end up paying loads more back, Save for a couple of months, pay for the insurance outright, you then put what you monthly payment would've been into a separate account and that becomes a slush fund for tax/insurance/mot when it comes around and you're saving yourself money. I didn't, and if I had put up with a snotter for a year, I'd now be looking at M3's/335i/S3/S15's but I was impatient and bought my T-Jet with a loan.
That, plus your insurance will be A LOT cheaper, I'm 20, paying £720 a year on insurance on a 58 plate Grande T-Jet doing 12000 miles including business, and that's fully comp.
JakeThePeg said:
I don't know I don't own one.
I've heard that the M32 gearbox used in the GP JTD's have weak bearing, usually found by a whining 4th gear.
Plus ARB's are a little weak, but only need doing every 50-60k's
Other than that, you'll have to research them, I've got a later series 2 (fancy head/taillights, different seat design plus cruise as standard) which fixed 90% of these.
http://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto/89495-recall... - Fiat forum showing every known fault with the cars, and fixes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Fiat-Grande-Punto-S... - A little over budget, but swapping current/waiting a couple of months should get you into one. Check for recent cambelt changes on both of the cars.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-FIAT-GRANDE-PUNTO-S...
With £1 change, not a fan of diesels whatsoever so can't comment on this, but looks okay and up for budget.
Thanks alot and yes that punto you linked looks very nice, looks like a perfect buy if the man selling it really is a mechanic, but won't be buying for another 6-7 months yetI've heard that the M32 gearbox used in the GP JTD's have weak bearing, usually found by a whining 4th gear.
Plus ARB's are a little weak, but only need doing every 50-60k's
Other than that, you'll have to research them, I've got a later series 2 (fancy head/taillights, different seat design plus cruise as standard) which fixed 90% of these.
http://www.fiatforum.com/grande-punto/89495-recall... - Fiat forum showing every known fault with the cars, and fixes.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-Fiat-Grande-Punto-S... - A little over budget, but swapping current/waiting a couple of months should get you into one. Check for recent cambelt changes on both of the cars.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-FIAT-GRANDE-PUNTO-S...
With £1 change, not a fan of diesels whatsoever so can't comment on this, but looks okay and up for budget.
Memorise97 said:
Thanks alot and yes that punto you linked looks very nice, looks like a perfect buy if the man selling it really is a mechanic, but won't be buying for another 6-7 months yet
Then why not wait 6/7 months before looking? your circumstances may change.I didn't, got impatient and bought my T-Jet. I love it, don't get me wrong, but had I waited and saved a little more, I'd be looking at 10k cars, not 5k cars.
JakeThePeg said:
Then why not wait 6/7 months before looking? your circumstances may change.
I didn't, got impatient and bought my T-Jet. I love it, don't get me wrong, but had I waited and saved a little more, I'd be looking at 10k cars, not 5k cars.
I'm not looking to buy now, I'm just looking at options and predicting what their prices will fall to within 6-7 months, seems like now it's between the Clio, the Punto and the A3, but I'm slowly drifting away from the French diesel..I didn't, got impatient and bought my T-Jet. I love it, don't get me wrong, but had I waited and saved a little more, I'd be looking at 10k cars, not 5k cars.
SeanyD said:
Wasn't the phase 2 clio the one with the suicide bonnet issue?
Regarding the engine we had a 1.5DCI 106 phase 3 clio, very capable engine and pretty quick for a diesel. Probably En-par with warm hatch petrols.
AFAIK It's all Phase 1's, with Phase 2's for a couple of years before it was sorted. Regarding the engine we had a 1.5DCI 106 phase 3 clio, very capable engine and pretty quick for a diesel. Probably En-par with warm hatch petrols.
IanCress said:
Is there any particular reason you're going for a French diesel? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.
How so? Mercedes and Nissan both use the exact same engine, and there's f
king millions of Jokes and Squashqui's trundling round with the same engine. Beyond a reputation for shoddy electrics, modern Renaults seem pretty solid.
On the Fiat theme, I am more than a little biased here, but the 100HP is a much better driver's car than a diesel Punto. Also, it's just as quick to 60, if that bothers you and it's definitely quicker than both your current car and a 1.5 diesel Clio.
I've never heard anything too great (or too bad, to be fair) about the way the way the Grande Punto drives, whereas the 100HP is generally considered to be a good, fun little car. It'd probably be cheaper to insure, too and there's not the diesel bork factor which comes with the GP. As for the VED, they're both a bit extortionate at £180 per year...
If it interests you, I'm 20 and my 100HP cost me £500 to insure fully comp this year. Obviously, YMMV with the insurance companies.
I've never heard anything too great (or too bad, to be fair) about the way the way the Grande Punto drives, whereas the 100HP is generally considered to be a good, fun little car. It'd probably be cheaper to insure, too and there's not the diesel bork factor which comes with the GP. As for the VED, they're both a bit extortionate at £180 per year...
If it interests you, I'm 20 and my 100HP cost me £500 to insure fully comp this year. Obviously, YMMV with the insurance companies.
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