Gets Your Goat! worst driving traits
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Pan Pan said:
This comes down to living in a tight overcrowded country such as the UK where developers try to squeeze the max number of houses into the smallest sites. Some of the Design Guides actually give developers a licence to do this by allowing them to use `vernacular' architectural features which hark back to earlier times where cars did not exist.
They should design estates to cater for those `all' who will use them, not just the occupants of the dwellings themselves. Try walking half a mile with a boiler, hot water cylinder, central heating pump, and 50 metres of copper pipe work under an arm, some estates are not fit for purpose.
So explain to me why if, as you seem to think, "This comes down to living in a tight overcrowded country such as the UK where developers try to squeeze the max number of houses into the smallest sites." it happens on the estate I live on which was built in the 1960/70s and happens just about everywhere now.They should design estates to cater for those `all' who will use them, not just the occupants of the dwellings themselves. Try walking half a mile with a boiler, hot water cylinder, central heating pump, and 50 metres of copper pipe work under an arm, some estates are not fit for purpose.
I work in a large viallge. The main road out of the village is plenty wide enough to park one car either side and drive a lotty down the middle but people still park half on the pavement.
Where I was brought up in a major city we always parked on the road as did the people opposire and two buses could easily pass. I lived there for the first 25 years of my life and nobody ever parked half on the pavement. Now, whenevr I go there are cars parked half on the pavement. It's a main road with loads of space. No excuse, no apparent reason.
Mr2Mike said:
Tyre Tread said:
Parking half on the pavement.
Not overly fussed about this provided there is still plenty of room on the pavement. People parking so badly that pedestrians are forced to walk into into the road to get past deserve to have their knee caps removed with a blunt spoon.Very rarely any need for it.
redtwin said:
Anyone at a junction waiting to pull out that does not pay attention to oncoming traffic. You see them waiting, adjust your speed to create a gap they can pull into, then flash repeatedly (knocking hours of life off your main beam bulbs) and they roundly ignore you.
Then I would annoy you. Flashing headlamps have only one meaning - I am here (read the Highway Code). Any other intended meaning is open to misinterpretation. Plus there is now a scam where a car flashes headlights to encourage another car to pull out of a junction and then drives into it - of course in the resulting insurance claim there are suddenly multiple witnesses that the second car pulled out when it shouldn't have.One of my pet hates is when I am cruising along at 60mph on the open (single carriageway road), mr rear view mirror completely empty of any other traffic behind me. The the total f^&*tard in the side road ahead decides no, they can't wait until I am past before pulling out, they must lurch out in front of me, forcing me to brake, then they bimble up to 40mph but no more. Or is that their tiny, tiny brain simply can't compute the fact that behind me is an empty tract of tarmac where they can take all the time in the world to crawl out of the junction.
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ds.Tyre Tread said:
Gets my goat as per thread title.
Very rarely any need for it.
There is a need for it in residential streets that are a little too narrow to allow cars to be parked on both sides without blocking the road. There are numerous such roads where I live and cars routinely park slightly (18 inches or so) on the pavement on one side of the road to avoid blocking it. The pavements are pretty wide so there is still plenty of room for large pushchairs etc. The police don't seem to be at all bothered by this, and no one else in the area seems to be.Very rarely any need for it.
Mr2Mike said:
Tyre Tread said:
Gets my goat as per thread title.
Very rarely any need for it.
There is a need for it in residential streets that are a little too narrow to allow cars to be parked on both sides without blocking the road. There are numerous such roads where I live and cars routinely park slightly (18 inches or so) on the pavement on one side of the road to avoid blocking it. The pavements are pretty wide so there is still plenty of room for large pushchairs etc. The police don't seem to be at all bothered by this, and no one else in the area seems to be.Very rarely any need for it.
As I said earlier I accept that sometimes it is unavoidable or the raod is effectively blocked but it gets MY goat.
Pan Pan said:
Tyre Tread said:
Pan Pan said:
LordHaveMurci said:
Tyre Tread said:
Parking half on the pavement.
We used to get this quite a lot just down the road from our house. There is a gateway into a valley park, lots of people park on the road & walk their dogs, some people think it's Ok to park on the pavement. When I spoke to one person about this they said they didn't want to block the (two lane) road but they thought it was fine to block the pavement meaning mine & my neighbours kids had to walk out into the road to get round
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in a massive Lincoln 4WD tank will get reported to the Police next time they do it...Edited by LordHaveMurci on Wednesday 19th November 15:00
no casual parking spaces provided, OK the occupants of the houses might have a garage, and driveway to park in, but often there is no provision whatsoever for visitors vehicles, and owing to tight road widths, they either have to park half on the pavement, or entirely in the road, which blocks it almost completely, or a further option, don't visit their relatives / friends at all!
Since public transport in such places is either very poor doesn't go all the way in, or is even non existent, this is often not an option either, (especially if one has any equipment/ goods / material/ kids stuff to bring as well)
Most people now do it from force of habit in some misguided belief it aids traffic movement. It doesn't in the vast majority of cases since two cars cannot pass if a car is parked half on the pavement any better than they could if it was parked against the kerb so no benefit is derived.
I live in a long culd de sac and have done for some 18 years. Nobody used to park half on the pavement until some new people moved into one of the houses and started dong it. Now, just about everybody who parks in the road, does it. Many completely block the pavements. i often manage to squeeze past by folding in their passenger side mirror and dragging the chain on the dog lead past them.
There is no excuse for parking on the pavement unless it is specifically permitted in that location (I accept some places it is unavoidable to some degree).
As for visitors: park where you don't have to block the pavement and WALK!
Don't start me about parents "parking" to pick up their little darlings from school.
They should design estates to cater for those `all' who will use them, not just the occupants of the dwellings themselves. Try walking half a mile with a boiler, hot water cylinder, central heating pump, and 50 metres of copper pipe work under an arm, some estates are not fit for purpose.
I saw 2 this morning:
- People who have no concept of how wide their car is and sit behind cyclists for miles then pull to the extreme other side of the road to get past some whippet hipped roadie. Usually people driving very small cars. Most roads have about 3 feet of room in the same lane.
- Stopping in a long on queue of traffic over a cars length back, then deciding to move forward 3 feet after 10 minutes, then another 3 feet 10 minutes after that, just stop within 3 feet so we don't all have to stop start stop start to gain a car length!
- People who have no concept of how wide their car is and sit behind cyclists for miles then pull to the extreme other side of the road to get past some whippet hipped roadie. Usually people driving very small cars. Most roads have about 3 feet of room in the same lane.
- Stopping in a long on queue of traffic over a cars length back, then deciding to move forward 3 feet after 10 minutes, then another 3 feet 10 minutes after that, just stop within 3 feet so we don't all have to stop start stop start to gain a car length!
People who join the wrong lane at a motorway exit because it's less busy and then push in as they near the roundabout. Happens to me every damned morning as I turn left after leaving the southbound M5 at J30. The left lane will have people wishing to turn right towards Exeter, and I often miss two changes of traffic lights because of these ignorant bds.
ds.Worst at present is incorrect or lack of indicating at roundabouts. In my experience less than 10% of drivers today know how to correctly indicate when faced with a roundabout.
They will either;
Not bother indicating at all when taking the 1st exit, leaving drivers who were entering at the 1st exit frustrated as they could have proceeded onto the roundabout instead of stopping as they thought said vehicle was continuing straight ahead.
Indicate left when actually going straight ahead, causing those driver entering at 1st exit to hammer on the brakes
Indicate right when taking the second exit, again causing 2nd exit entry drivers unnecessary delay.
Not bother indicating at all when taking 3rd exit or higher, which confuses every other driver around them.
They will either;
Not bother indicating at all when taking the 1st exit, leaving drivers who were entering at the 1st exit frustrated as they could have proceeded onto the roundabout instead of stopping as they thought said vehicle was continuing straight ahead.
Indicate left when actually going straight ahead, causing those driver entering at 1st exit to hammer on the brakes
Indicate right when taking the second exit, again causing 2nd exit entry drivers unnecessary delay.
Not bother indicating at all when taking 3rd exit or higher, which confuses every other driver around them.
Ruskins said:
I saw 2 this morning:
- People who have no concept of how wide their car is and sit behind cyclists for miles then pull to the extreme other side of the road to get past some whippet hipped roadie. Usually people driving very small cars. Most roads have about 3 feet of room in the same lane.
Because you are taught when overtaking cyclists to give them the same amount of room as if you were overtaking another car. I remember the tv adverts when I was a kid.- People who have no concept of how wide their car is and sit behind cyclists for miles then pull to the extreme other side of the road to get past some whippet hipped roadie. Usually people driving very small cars. Most roads have about 3 feet of room in the same lane.
Sure it may not be practical out on the roads, but some folks sticks to the way they were taught to drive.
Europa1 said:
- this strange perception that some people seem to have when on a dual carriageway/motorway that them driving on full beam headlights no longer dazzles people travelling in the other direction;
Having travelled back as a passenger from Gatwick last night in an E-Class Coupe with High-Beam Assist I was constantly flicking the imaginary stalk in my head as I would've turned the main beam off way earlier than the system does, especially coming up behind traffic in front. Stupid system.shakotan said:
Worst at present is incorrect or lack of indicating at roundabouts. In my experience less than 10% of drivers today know how to correctly indicate when faced with a roundabout.
They will either;
Not bother indicating at all when taking the 1st exit, leaving drivers who were entering at the 1st exit frustrated as they could have proceeded onto the roundabout instead of stopping as they thought said vehicle was continuing straight ahead.
Indicate left when actually going straight ahead, causing those driver entering at 1st exit to hammer on the brakes
Indicate right when taking the second exit, again causing 2nd exit entry drivers unnecessary delay.
Not bother indicating at all when taking 3rd exit or higher, which confuses every other driver around them.
Yep, had one of these tools this morning - in the left hand lane, indicating right, when in fact they were going straight on. Cupid stunt.They will either;
Not bother indicating at all when taking the 1st exit, leaving drivers who were entering at the 1st exit frustrated as they could have proceeded onto the roundabout instead of stopping as they thought said vehicle was continuing straight ahead.
Indicate left when actually going straight ahead, causing those driver entering at 1st exit to hammer on the brakes
Indicate right when taking the second exit, again causing 2nd exit entry drivers unnecessary delay.
Not bother indicating at all when taking 3rd exit or higher, which confuses every other driver around them.
Lorry driver on Sandy roundabout (A1) southbound... in the left lane, takes a turn to the right. Luckily I'd seen his indicator going and I had hoofed it past him but there was no excuse for him to be in the left lane - the right lane was clear and he could have taken the roundabout a bit wider to make sure there was no way for anyone to make the mistake of going up inside him for "straight on"...
TheAllSeeingPie said:
If you've ever had some bellend drive into the back of you in traffic "because your brakelights were on and the traffic light was green so I though you were moving" you'd sit with your brakelights on when stopped too. I'm glad my Merc does the same as the other posters Disco, it reduces the stupidity of people behind you. Also if you don't stare directly at the lights you won't be blinded by them, and they certainly don't have a reflector to form a beam so I've never really been dazzled by them at all.
Obviously, which is why you sit with your foot on the brake and the hand-brake on until someone stops behind you (important to have both not just the foot brake because otherwise an impact from behind will pull your foot off the brake and send you into the car in fron that much faster); then come off the foot brake and sit just on the hand-brake until you have to move away again. I'd never sit at the back of a queue of traffic without both brakes on. It's just basic common sense a courtesy, which sadly most drivers (and indeed British people in general) seem to be lacking these days. "I'm going to make someone else's life miserable in order to make my own slightly more convenient" sums up the attitude of a depressing number of people in all walks of life these days.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 20th November 14:32
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