Gets Your Goat! worst driving traits
Discussion
shakotan said:
Worst at present is incorrect or lack of indicating at roundabouts. In my experience less than 10% of drivers today know how to correctly indicate when faced with a roundabout.
They will either;
Not bother indicating at all when taking the 1st exit, leaving drivers who were entering at the 1st exit frustrated as they could have proceeded onto the roundabout instead of stopping as they thought said vehicle was continuing straight ahead.
Indicate left when actually going straight ahead, causing those driver entering at 1st exit to hammer on the brakes
Indicate right when taking the second exit, again causing 2nd exit entry drivers unnecessary delay.
Not bother indicating at all when taking 3rd exit or higher, which confuses every other driver around them.
I reckon it's far lower than 10% to be honest; I probably only see correct indication a handful of times a week in the 600 odd miles that I drive. I'd say about 0.5 to 1% of drivers understand basic roundabouts fully and how to indicate on them.They will either;
Not bother indicating at all when taking the 1st exit, leaving drivers who were entering at the 1st exit frustrated as they could have proceeded onto the roundabout instead of stopping as they thought said vehicle was continuing straight ahead.
Indicate left when actually going straight ahead, causing those driver entering at 1st exit to hammer on the brakes
Indicate right when taking the second exit, again causing 2nd exit entry drivers unnecessary delay.
Not bother indicating at all when taking 3rd exit or higher, which confuses every other driver around them.
Another couple for your list on roundabouts:
People who turn right without indicating at all until midway past the exit prior to the one they're taking, where they then indicate right as they're coming off. I presume they've sort of remembered bits of what they were taught (and in the HC) about indicating left as they pass the exit prior to the one they're taking, but somehow confused that with indicating right on approach to the roundabout (again, as in the HC). People really are quite stupid!
People who use a roundabout at the end of a dual carriageway going onto a single carriageway as a means of overtaking people. There's two of these near where I work that I take reasonably regularly, and I've frequently had someone storm up alongside me in lane 2 whilst I'm in lane 1 going straight on and they then try and squeeze onto the single carriageway road right alongside me as I'm exiting, usually accompanied by all sort of signs out of the window, hooting, flashing and tailgating afterwards. I even had a guy get out of his car the other day and try and start a fight with me - he was trying to go straight on from the right hand lane as I was doing so from the left hand lane and he actually didn't get alongside me until I had virtually left the roundabout, and if I hadn't moved left when the lane subsequently narrowed then he'd have gone straight into a bollard in the middle of the road. Somehow I'm in the wrong and need a kicking for that?! I didn't mind him being in front of me at all, but why didn't he just pass me on the dual carriageway beforehand, rather than trying to do it from the right turn lane of a roundabout in the space of about 3 seconds?
I dislike
- Dawdlers, especially dawdlers on slip-roads, trying to merge with 70mph traffic whilst they're doing 40mph
- Obeyers of the new, pointless 50mph limit A roads
- Poor indicating, especially those who indicate to change lane without finding a gap first
- Vans/people carriers/faux by fours in the outside lane blocking visibility
- Those who cut the corner when turning right
- Those who ignore the parked car rule. Especially those who take ages to get back on their side of the road.
- Door swingers
Often I'm on the A31 through New Forest to and from work and there's side roads with run ups to use before joining the carriageway - really grips my sh*t with folks who insist on waiting right at the exit from the side road and then just pulling straight out on to the carriageway and totally ignoring the run up. Seems to me to be nearly always a certain type of driver but think I'd better leave that there...
Every time I find myself screaming 'use the feckin' road!'
Every time I find myself screaming 'use the feckin' road!'
stevebear said:
Often I'm on the A31 through New Forest to and from work and there's side roads with run ups to use before joining the carriageway - really grips my sh*t with folks who insist on waiting right at the exit from the side road and then just pulling straight out on to the carriageway and totally ignoring the run up. Seems to me to be nearly always a certain type of driver but think I'd better leave that there...
Every time I find myself screaming 'use the feckin' road!'
I drive that route once or twice a week and have noticed the same thing - particularly the sliproad after the Shell garage at the top of the hill, which if you've ever been in has a massive sliproad with a downhill before the uphill bit - more than enough chance to reach a safe speed to join. Every time I find myself screaming 'use the feckin' road!'
My commute contains two very short sliproads. They're short, but even in my puny 320d I can easily get to 70mph before joining the main carriageway, which is about double the speed that the average person seems to manage. I've noticed that most drivers firstly don't accelerate that hard, but secondly seem to slow down when they look at the dual carriageway, so they'll be accelerating ok-ish, perhaps on course for joining at 50mph, and then as soon as they start checking their mirrors and over their right hand shoulder their speed drops steadily to about 35mph by the time they cross the give way line. The slowest people join at about 20mph!
I have noticed recently a trend of people not being able to stay on their own side of the road.
I can understand taking more straight lines through corners on open A/B roads when you can clearly see nothing is coming the other way, But ive noticed people doing this coming across the middle of the road even when a car is coming the other way, i have regularly had to brake or pull into the ditches of roads to avoid head on collision with other cars. Not even people "on it", just the usual white vans, school run mums in 4x4s etc all do it.
This is bad enough but i have noticed it even happening in 30mph roads. i dont know if its cars getting bigger and people have no concept of where the edges of theirs cars are any more or they just expect their safety bubble car will save them from colliding with anything. there is a tight blind corner I use everyday, you couldnt go through at more than 15mph, Without fail i will always have to brake due to some t
t who presumes because their isnt a line they can just make a meager attempt at a turn then just carry on in a straight line despite they will have now seen me who has had to brake for them as their are now in the middle of the road.
This also seems to happen with oncoming cars who are passing stationary cars at the side of roads. You have a car coming head on your side of the road passing parked cars. No bother you lift off/brake, Only for the oncoming car to take the shallowest line back to their side of the road, Surely you should be minimizing the time spent on the wrong side of the road. But pulling back in for some people seems so difficult they will happily come within feet of an accident if it means they can avoid turning that heavy ship wheel they must have in their car.
Rant over/ other drivers ares
I can understand taking more straight lines through corners on open A/B roads when you can clearly see nothing is coming the other way, But ive noticed people doing this coming across the middle of the road even when a car is coming the other way, i have regularly had to brake or pull into the ditches of roads to avoid head on collision with other cars. Not even people "on it", just the usual white vans, school run mums in 4x4s etc all do it.
This is bad enough but i have noticed it even happening in 30mph roads. i dont know if its cars getting bigger and people have no concept of where the edges of theirs cars are any more or they just expect their safety bubble car will save them from colliding with anything. there is a tight blind corner I use everyday, you couldnt go through at more than 15mph, Without fail i will always have to brake due to some t
t who presumes because their isnt a line they can just make a meager attempt at a turn then just carry on in a straight line despite they will have now seen me who has had to brake for them as their are now in the middle of the road.This also seems to happen with oncoming cars who are passing stationary cars at the side of roads. You have a car coming head on your side of the road passing parked cars. No bother you lift off/brake, Only for the oncoming car to take the shallowest line back to their side of the road, Surely you should be minimizing the time spent on the wrong side of the road. But pulling back in for some people seems so difficult they will happily come within feet of an accident if it means they can avoid turning that heavy ship wheel they must have in their car.
Rant over/ other drivers are
sToday this happened.
Riding through a 30 limit and the car infront cannot manage to do 30 and potters along at 20, not so much of a problem but the 4x4 behind isn't leaving a big gap for me and blinding me slightly with the height of the lights.
Slightly annoying.
Then speeding up to slightly over 30 meaning I can pull a safer gap whilst managing the gap ahead only to slow back to 20 or less for a corner that I can easily manage at 30 in the wet! (Today has been dry in my part of the world).
Slightly more annnoying.
Awaiting to move around a coach there is no room for me to sidle past unimpeded due to oncoming traffic, no worry I wait as I know o can squirt past quickly as the car in front didn't exactly move quickly.
Not even finished the overtake before the car flashes me and procedes to get up my arse (I'd slightly gone over the 30mph limit so the vehicle now behind definitely had!)
For the next half mile or so proceeds to try and stay close despite not fully understanding a power to weight ratio.
It's fine if you want to go slow I'll go around safely when I can but don't get the fking hump.just because you're a ballbag that struggles with the concept of safe driving!
[Flamesuit on]
Riding through a 30 limit and the car infront cannot manage to do 30 and potters along at 20, not so much of a problem but the 4x4 behind isn't leaving a big gap for me and blinding me slightly with the height of the lights.
Slightly annoying.
Then speeding up to slightly over 30 meaning I can pull a safer gap whilst managing the gap ahead only to slow back to 20 or less for a corner that I can easily manage at 30 in the wet! (Today has been dry in my part of the world).
Slightly more annnoying.
Awaiting to move around a coach there is no room for me to sidle past unimpeded due to oncoming traffic, no worry I wait as I know o can squirt past quickly as the car in front didn't exactly move quickly.
Not even finished the overtake before the car flashes me and procedes to get up my arse (I'd slightly gone over the 30mph limit so the vehicle now behind definitely had!)
For the next half mile or so proceeds to try and stay close despite not fully understanding a power to weight ratio.
It's fine if you want to go slow I'll go around safely when I can but don't get the f
king hump.just because you're a ballbag that struggles with the concept of safe driving! [Flamesuit on]
One that bugs me particularly now that I own a car with cruise control is people's inability to maintain a reasonably constant speed on the motorway.
I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
Mound Dawg said:
One that bugs me particularly now that I own a car with cruise control is people's inability to maintain a reasonably constant speed on the motorway.
I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
You're doing well if you're travelling at 70mph in lane one of the motorway.I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
Leafspring said:
People who overtake my "slow old Land Rover" even though I'm doing the speed limit (or a little over)
The limit is 50... I'm doing 50-55... why do they need to pass?
Well, presumably because they want to go faster? The limit is 50... I'm doing 50-55... why do they need to pass?
Does it get your goat if you're doing 70 on a motorway and someone passes you too?
Last night is was a bit foggy, visibilty was reduced to just under a mile on the M1 so 30% of cars had their foglights on to successfully dazzle other drivers and mask their brake lights!
The thing that gets my goat the most is......straight lining roundabouts and general roundabout fk wittery including; going right from the left lane, crossing lanes at the wrong point, total and complete mis use of indicators (if they are used at all), not understanding who gives way to whom, failure to start looking until they get to the line and therefore stopping when there is no need etc etc
The thing that gets my goat the most is......straight lining roundabouts and general roundabout f
k wittery including; going right from the left lane, crossing lanes at the wrong point, total and complete mis use of indicators (if they are used at all), not understanding who gives way to whom, failure to start looking until they get to the line and therefore stopping when there is no need etc etcfezst said:
Mound Dawg said:
One that bugs me particularly now that I own a car with cruise control is people's inability to maintain a reasonably constant speed on the motorway.
I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
You're doing well if you're travelling at 70mph in lane one of the motorway.I'm rumbling along at 70 in lane one and someone comes sailing past me at 75, tucks in front and proceeds to slow to 65.
So I swing out and pass them, tuck in and find not twenty seconds later that they're right up my arse again and out into lane two, passing me at 75 only to slow down again once their death defying manoeuvre is complete.
Repeat ad-infinitum.
Happened tonight on the way home, the same black Skoda Fabia passed me (and I passed her) four times on the three mile Severn crossing.
blueg33 said:
Last night is was a bit foggy, visibilty was reduced to just under a mile on the M1 so 30% of cars had their foglights on to successfully dazzle other drivers and mask their brake lights!
The thing that gets my goat the most is......straight lining roundabouts and general roundabout fk wittery including; going right from the left lane, crossing lanes at the wrong point, total and complete mis use of indicators (if they are used at all), not understanding who gives way to whom, failure to start looking until they get to the line and therefore stopping when there is no need etc etc
Yes, I am amazed by the number of people who find roundabouts so difficult.The thing that gets my goat the most is......straight lining roundabouts and general roundabout f
k wittery including; going right from the left lane, crossing lanes at the wrong point, total and complete mis use of indicators (if they are used at all), not understanding who gives way to whom, failure to start looking until they get to the line and therefore stopping when there is no need etc etcThe Wiltshire mini roundabout problem.
I've only seen this in Chippenham and Calne, but may be in other places, instead of going round the roundabout when turning right they cut across with the roundabout on their left - when I'm turning right I've almost met people head on.
I don't have a problem if people cut a bit onto the painted roundabout with the right hand wheels, but in wilts the are only just clipping them with the left hand wheels.
I've only seen this in Chippenham and Calne, but may be in other places, instead of going round the roundabout when turning right they cut across with the roundabout on their left - when I'm turning right I've almost met people head on.
I don't have a problem if people cut a bit onto the painted roundabout with the right hand wheels, but in wilts the are only just clipping them with the left hand wheels.
Leafspring said:
People who overtake my "slow old Land Rover" even though the way out of calibration speedo tell me I'm doing the speed limit (or a little over)
The limit is 50... I'm doing an indicated 50-55... why do they need to pass?
EFA - I have a 1970 Rover on which I thought the speedo was about right. Turned out it was reading quite a bit too slow.The limit is 50... I'm doing an indicated 50-55... why do they need to pass?
Plus, as someone else said, cornering.
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