RE: Nissan GT-R ... design classic? PH Blog
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gregf40 said:
Agoogy said:
The front end is an ugly mess IMO and the interior one of the worst in any class of car
Really? The interior is absolutely fine - I actually think it's a nice place to be! It's also extremely well put together and has fewer rattles than Porches's and Ferrari's I have owned over the years!
Typical of PH.
Edited by vz-r_dave on Thursday 13th November 20:25
Well what do you expect when you have some of the authors here on PH putting out similar drivel at times.
I do love it when a keyboard warrior comes on slating a car they probably have never driven only for an owner of one to come along and state that it is better than his previous Ferrari's and Porsche's. In this case specifically on the interior quality.... but still.
Typical of PH.
vz-r_dave said:
gregf40 said:
Agoogy said:
The front end is an ugly mess IMO and the interior one of the worst in any class of car
Really? The interior is absolutely fine - I actually think it's a nice place to be! It's also extremely well put together and has fewer rattles than Porches's and Ferrari's I have owned over the years!Typical of PH.
Edited by vz-r_dave on Thursday 13th November 20:25
macky17 said:
I've always loved this view:
The shape of the haunches, roof line and rear window is very jet-fighter somehow and I like the vent behind the front arch. I agree, a little ugly from the front (luckily most people only get to see the rear).
IMO if Nissan had managed this, at about 85-90% of the size it actually turned out - it would wear a whole lot better. I'd admire the stealthy/psycho half-brother of a 350Z fairlady; the GT-R as it is - a whole lot less.The shape of the haunches, roof line and rear window is very jet-fighter somehow and I like the vent behind the front arch. I agree, a little ugly from the front (luckily most people only get to see the rear).
Much of the aesthetic joy of things that were challenging when new, that have lasted, is a sense of refinement of proportion and scale. NSX - rather smaller than expected, despite the long rear overhang; Countach likewise; and even the Veyron - something else that I'm lukewarm about - is physically quite compact and finely-proportioned up close, in a way that is surprisingly redeeming. GT-R - no, repeatedly overstated dollop of playstation styling.
Edited by Huff on Thursday 13th November 22:46
Huff said:
macky17 said:
I've always loved this view:
The shape of the haunches, roof line and rear window is very jet-fighter somehow and I like the vent behind the front arch. I agree, a little ugly from the front (luckily most people only get to see the rear).
IMO if Nissan had managed this, at about 85-90% of the size it actually turned out - it would wear a whole lot better. I'd admire the stealthy/psycho half-brother of a 350Z fairlady; the GT-R as it is - a whole lot less.The shape of the haunches, roof line and rear window is very jet-fighter somehow and I like the vent behind the front arch. I agree, a little ugly from the front (luckily most people only get to see the rear).
Much of the aesthetic joy of things that were challenging when new, that have lasted, is a sense of refinement of proportion and scale. NSX - rather smaller than expected, despite the long rear overhang; Countach likewise; and even the Veyron - something else that I'm lukewarm about - is physically quite compact and finely-proportioned up close, in a way that is surprisingly redeeming. GT-R - no, repeatedly overstated dollop of playstation styling.
Edited by Huff on Thursday 13th November 22:46
What does that even mean ? it doesn't look like any model of Playstation hardware, so it isn't that, is it because it features in many driving games, like its predecessors ?
The cars styling actually owes more to Japanese Anime, specifically a robot named Gundam.
How can it be repeatedly overstated ? it is definitely overstated, its a larger than life car, literally and figuratively, they were at no point aiming at a subtle overall effect.
I've never thought the GTR was attractive. I actually find it pretty ugly, and then you see it in the flesh and it looks even more ridiculous. It's massive, to the point of it being a joke. And presence? None at all. Just a big Japanese coupe. A similar presence to a honda legend coupe?
Capable, but so undesirable.
Details date , proportions are forever. It's already looking a bit silly, I don't think it will age well, not that anyone will be able to afford to run one on 10 years!
Never a classic. It brought about the end of the analogue sportscar, so one has to hate it.
Capable, but so undesirable.
Details date , proportions are forever. It's already looking a bit silly, I don't think it will age well, not that anyone will be able to afford to run one on 10 years!
Never a classic. It brought about the end of the analogue sportscar, so one has to hate it.
come on!Design classics take time to reveal themselves but I think this might well achieve it.
The common mistake seems to be that something has to look beautiful to be a good design, where as good design is often about making something look appropriate for its market/purpose, and well proportioned.
I love the R35 GTR... it just looks like a sub-8 BTG car, a beast, but a well designed one... until you open the door at least ;-)
The common mistake seems to be that something has to look beautiful to be a good design, where as good design is often about making something look appropriate for its market/purpose, and well proportioned.
I love the R35 GTR... it just looks like a sub-8 BTG car, a beast, but a well designed one... until you open the door at least ;-)
JohnT993 said:
Design classics take time to reveal themselves but I think this might well achieve it.
The common mistake seems to be that something has to look beautiful to be a good design, where as good design is often about making something look appropriate for its market/purpose, and well proportioned.
I love the R35 GTR... it just looks like a sub-8 BTG car, a beast, but a well designed one... until you open the door at least ;-)
Gtr is not a ground breaking design which dictates cars design in the future. It was a tough pill to swallow cos it was so big and bloated. But, times has changed and GTR doesn't stand out to being too bloated anymore. It is still ugly car, it doesn't have a beautiful lines. It has some nice details and you can have some nice fotos from it. But usually jap sport cars looks better in flesh than in photos, and this is not a case with GTR. The common mistake seems to be that something has to look beautiful to be a good design, where as good design is often about making something look appropriate for its market/purpose, and well proportioned.
I love the R35 GTR... it just looks like a sub-8 BTG car, a beast, but a well designed one... until you open the door at least ;-)
Looks aside, this is a future classic for sure. Ugly classic tho
J4CKO said:
For years and years the Japanese were accused of copying other peoples designs, I cant see a hint of anything else with the GTR, Porsche are so stuck in their ways they stick the same nose on their SUV and their saloon gets a 911 front as well as the back, not particularly pretty are they really, old 911s I love like the rest but they do look like a surprised Frog at the front, now look like the same thing but melted.
+1PunterCam said:
And presence? None at all. Just a big Japanese coupe. A similar presence to a honda legend coupe?
Capable, but so undesirable.
Totally disagree, it has loads of presence, considerably more than any 911 for me.Capable, but so undesirable.
The rear end is far better than the front though, those lights do remind me of the back of a jet.
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